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Hotest news of the day is that Andrea Rossi terminates all relationships with Defkalion Green Technologies.
All business relationships with Praxen , the Cyprus based company that owns the Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies S.A., have been cancelled and as of today neither Praxen nor Defkalion, nor any other Greek company whatsoever holds any rights for the production of the E-Cat or for any other exploitation of Andrea Rossi’s technology.
PRESS RELEASE :
Bologna-Rome (Italy) August 4th 2011
EFA- Energia da Fonti Alternative srl, the Italian Company through which the rights for the production of Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat were granted to Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies LTD, publicly announces that the License and Technology Transfer Agreement between the two companies has been recently terminated.
Not one single test, of the many demonstrations of the E-Cat technology held around the world, has ever been done in Greece and no E-Cat has ever been brought, produced, or assembled in the territory of the Ellenic Republic: so not only the technology is still fully owned by Andrea Rossi’s company, Leonardo Corporation, but it still remains a well preserved industrial secret.
Andrea Rossi August 6th, 2011 at 10:44 AM Dear Burt:
In my life I designed, manufactured, delivered and started up thousands of plants of any kind in the thermotechnic field of energy production from any kind of something that can give energy.
When you start up a plant, if everything goes perfectly well from the beginning it is an Act of God. The test will be made by the world highest level possible Scientists, and I cannot make mistakes.
Well, do you think that a responsible person could be not worried? My life is in the stakes. Anyway, at this point I can guarantee that the start up will be made in October.
Thank you for your kind attention, Warm Regards, A.R.
Andrea Rossi August 5th, 2011 at 8:43 AM Dear Daniel Garcia: The 1 MW plant will be put in operation during the last week of October. The exact place will be communicated in September.
Warm Regards, Andrea Rossi
Originally posted by Raelsatu
I remember when Rossi first announced the E-Cat and you spent the entire time on an ATS thread trying to debunk it. So far it hasn't been. This news is strange, but he did say he still plans to release the 1 MW reactor in October no? We will see the outcome.
Rossi has claimed, many times and in many reports, that he is not asking anybody for money until he delivers a working product for sale. For example, he said so on March 18 in Ny Teknik.
"I want no money from anybody until the plants have started up to demonstrate they maintain the guarantees. I want all the risks on me. This of course makes the beginning slow, but I want not to put on risk the money which is not mine."
Rossi's Greek licensee, Defkalion Green Technologies, however, is asking for money and asking investors to bear the risk. For 40.4 million Euros, one company per country can have the exclusive rights to manufacture and sell Rossi's device, according to a July 6 letter from Symeon Tsalikoglou, the director of business development and marketing for Defkalion.
international patent demand no. WO2009/125444 is pending and Italian Patent office has already been issued on April 6th, 2011 the final patent no. 0001387256.
So two days after this agreement breaks down the Italian patent is approved.
Nelson would not go into detail on the record with me about the meeting with Rossi, but he did provide a few facts.
- Rossi had contacted Nelson several months ago, asking to visit.
- Rossi paid his own expenses to attend the July 14 meeting at Marshall.
- Approximately 25 people comprising NASA staff and outside contractors attended the meeting.
- There was no demonstration, only a discussion about Rossi's device.
- NASA showed my June 14 video, in which Rossi demonstrated his device to me.
- NASA is offering an opportunity to test Rossi's device so long as there is no cost to the government.
- No agreement has been established.
- NASA 's interest is for possible space applications of the device.
- Further details are not available at this time.
April - August, there is a four month separation. International patent is still pending, but gives him enough protection that he should be able to let people start examining it.
Originally posted by pteridine
reply to post by boncho
This is not correct. "Rossi" is a common surname in Italy and the Rossi involved with precious metals is not the Rossi who invented the ECat.
Andrea Rossi, the legal representative of the 'company and the liquidator Royal Alexander were indicted by the District Attorney of Milan for illegal disposal of waste storage and toxic waste.
The alleged criminal organization would be formed, as well as from 'the creator of "liquid waste oil" and has since disappeared from a person, even by Michele Pizzato, Italian resident in Switzerland, a man trusted by Andrea Rossi and, recently, his mate "misfortune".
In 1995, according to an article called "For the Second Time, Handcuffs for Andrea Rossi" in Corriere della Sera, Rossi went to prison after he was convicted of illegal gold trafficking. Rossi also explained this on his personal Web site.
by strange coincidence Omar Petroldragon establishments,find themselves to face a strong political/social alliance that declares Ing. Andrea Rossi an environmental polluter and tax evader.
Andrea Rossi was arrested, from prison could no longer do anything to save the company,...
Those 56 prosecutions, for which he was incarcerated, end up with an acquittal of all processes for tax reasons, derived from bankruptcy by the closure of Omar and Petroldragon, 5 of them ended with a conviction, which would justify the period of preventive imprisonment for the accusations that led to the arrests. All other requirements ended up in acquittals.
If up until now believed to be in trouble and it 'wrong. Andrea Rossi, inventor of the process talked to transform the garbage into oil and industrial waste, and 'much' trouble that simple. Of all the "tiles" that have rained on him so far, the most 'heavy' arrived yesterday by the Public Prosecutor of Ariano Irpino, in the province of Avellino.
The masterpiece, however, was the sale of 'Lacchiarella area just two months before the bankruptcy decision of Omar: estimated 5 billion was transferred to the Trust Company Ltd for 476 million of Cremona.
All in bills of exchange, moreover, never paid. The prosecutor had also indicated that Omar as a means for carrying out illegal activities (Rossi is also investigated at Monza and Varese for tax and financial crimes as the owner of Dragon Petrol group companies), in order to divert huge profits to 'foreign Already in '94, in fact, the capital of Omar was headed to London-based company controlled by Rossi and Liechtenstein.
And he added a curious detail: the best customers of the Dragon Petrol included a paper mill in the province of Frosinone, that between January '91 to March' 92 had purchased 600 tons of fuel self-sufficient. Too bad that the factory had stopped production since '90.
And even if this alleged turn of events turns out to be true it does nothing to negate the train of prominent and highly credible scientist who have examined it, run tests, and ruled out any trickery etc.
As Essén told me on July 15, he had not known about the 1,600 times expansion factor when he and Kullander went to Bologna. I know of no evidence to suggest that Levi knew about the expansion factor, either. Certainly, if Levi did know, it raises other questions.
"I'm new at steam, unfortunately," Essén said. "I've only studied it in the context of basic thermodynamics. I can't recall anybody who has made this type of claim before."
Three months ago, but shortly after his visit to Bologna, Essén didn't seem to know about steam quality.
In an April e-mail, I asked him, "Does your analysis take into account the ‘wet steam’ concern? Is this a valid concern, an irrelevant concern or a red herring?"
"I think it is totally irrelevant," Essén wrote. "Boiling water is a fairly straightforward method of estimating power."
I asked Kullander, as well.
Essén based his support of Rossi's device on the following:
- His assumption that Levi was an independent researcher.
- His understanding that Rossi had already begun to sell devices and that they were commercially available.
- He thought Rossi's device might be credible despite the lack of essential pieces of information "partly because he says it."
Apparently, Essén did not go to great lengths to verify information that he received; however, he did maintain his objectivity and cautious skepticism at that time in the Ny Teknik interview.
"It’s very hard to guard against someone who is lying in this context," Essén said. "It’s almost impossible for us to know. You try to evaluate the physics, then you assume that the data is presented as honestly as possible."
Levi was hardly independent. All of his tests were performed in Rossi's facility, in Rossi's presence, under Rossi's direction, on equipment designed, constructed and owned by Rossi and without any document that would provide Levi with sufficient details to perform an independent replication.
There is nothing worse than a scientific field full of "True Believers" where criticism is not tolerated and the current dogma can never be attacked. Of course critics often exaggerate! I do this on occasion, and I have been quite rightly criticized in turn for it!! But this is all part of the legitimate process. By taking a more extreme position than mere logic demands, we isolate and simplify the issues for discussion.
I wrote to Mahadeva Srinivasan, the conference chairman, and stated my concern that this was a highly irregular decision considering that Rossi's work had not been vetted in any scientific forum before the conference, or published in any journal, and that the abstract submission deadline had passed months earlier. Srinivasan explained his and his scientific committee's reasoning
Celani recognized the weakest part of Rossi and Levi's claim: the assumption of complete evaporation of the water. More important, he knew conceptually the correct way that they should have measured the energy balance.
-The experiment, at the beginning, didn’t start properly because the main heater had catastrophic failure.
- After some (chaotic) “work” (and the large [number of] people waiting in the main room making noisy and “bitter” comments), at the end, the reactor was started.
- The expected self-sustaining regime (input electric power strongly reduced from kW level to less that 100W), as claimed several times before by Rossi and Focardi, this time was not possible to be operated.
- Very little information, incomplete measurements, questionable assumptions (like complete evaporation).
Originally posted by hawkiye
Lol! Boncho you are trying way to hard to discredit this with nothing of substance. Only an idiot would let his secrets go of this magnitude before his patents were finalized.
No need for me to quote yet again all the prominent scientist including a NASA Chief who all positively confirmed everything Rossi has revealed so far...
Yeah yea blah blah I am not going to bite on your troll tactics we've been all through this...