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George Bush and Other's To Face War Crime Charges on Augest 26th 2004

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posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 04:06 PM
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Ramsey Clark a fomer attorney general of the united states as well as speaker's from the United Nation's and others not limited to The New York Bar Association are have charged the admistration's of the u.s. both current and past of 14 year's of war for oil among other charge's. The confrence will be held on augest 26 2004 for those wishing to registure and or attend you also if you wish will be able to speak and if you have it present evidence of past corruption by bill clinton, george bush sr., or the current george bush in the white house now. To sign up for the confrence to be a speaker or presenter of evidence for war crime's of these admistrations you will need to go to the following website to do so.

peoplejudgebush.org...

This website was created partly by ramsey clark former attorney general and other's to bring war crime's against the current admistration and others.

Remember the conference start's in N.Y. on Augest 26th 2004.

It should also be noted I recived this infomation on monday and on tuesday the website had been hacked and was hacked the majority of all day yesterday.

Most of the major media does not want people to know about this upcomming event so it is a good idea to get this infomation out now.

Most of ats memeber's agree bush must go. But this isnt just about bush it's about 14 year's of charges that have also and will be presented on augest 26th. There is also a good chance this will not be covered in the main media unless it get's enough attention. No matter if you were or are a bush supporter and or a clinton supporter and if you were a whistleblower that had to go into hideing because of either admistration here's your chance to be heard and present evidence.

Enjoy and Spread the infomation before Augest 26th.

Falcon




posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 04:22 PM
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That's real cute. Didn't some Italian lawyers attempt to charge Bush with war crimes during the war in Afghanistan?

Civilization is nice, but let's not over do it. The fact is that war makes the world go 'round. Many nations own parts of their territory by right of conquest. Many owe their prosperity to war with rivals and enforced economic arrangements of the past.

Charge everyone you want. Once you can find a court to listen to you, all you've gotta do is come get the accussed. I'll kill your arse over Clinton just as quickly as I would for Bush. Every nation has the right to advance its interests- if there is a conflict then you slug it out and the stronger side gets its way. So far thats the only functioning system. So who wants to invade and come get our leaders?



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:44 PM
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i gotta say, i totally agree with Vagabond.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:50 PM
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I like this idea of war crimes against administrations; they should be hold accountable for their mistakes when it causes others to loose their lives.

Even if it does not end on anything the public should be made aware that is people out there very unhappy with the results of war.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond

Every nation has the right to advance its interests- if there is a conflict then you slug it out and the stronger side gets its way.



In one elegant move of your quill, you justified the perpetrators of WWII, among others. Sure, Hitler had the right to annex Chezchoslovakia etc. You may say he lost anyway. Well he did, but look at the staggering cost in human lives, of application of that doctrine of yours (and Hitler's).

The German nation perceived ridding its territory of Jews as advancement of its interests. To this end, they contructed concentration camps and gas chambers. You, of course, endorse all of that. They were just trying to "get its way", the way you put it.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
Every nation has the right to advance its interests- if there is a conflict then you slug it out and the stronger side gets its way. So far thats the only functioning system. So who wants to invade and come get our leaders?


Ummmmm, how much you making off the war? Is it making the price of gas go down for all of us? Tell me, how are you profiting from the bloodshed? How is our nation profiting? Are you getting a kickback from Haliburton? Or is it just the Bush family and friends?

So, tell me, how is it good for the country? I can make tractors as well as tanks. I can make Rockets to go back to the moon as well as rockets to kill. We always have a choice.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 06:57 PM
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Are you kidding me Vagabond? It's not the war that is being challanged (well, in some it is), but the way in which the war was conducted. I find it sad that you wish to generalize war and say all war is good war.

Anyway, I think it's interesting to note that Bush is already a war criminal in Japan. He has long been convicted with some of the same charges.

But, noone expects presidents to get arrested, largely because of those who think all war is good.

This is more about respect for the people of the world, not denying the beliefs of yourself, and upholding the natural rights of everyone on this earth.

I applaud this war crimes tribunal. Though presidents will not get arrested, it will make a statement. A statement that what profits those leaders in charge and the executors of war does not profit the stripped civil liberties of not only american people, but people all over the world. That people weren't born into this world only to be slain so some crooks could make a quick buck off of all. That some american ways of gas-guzzling, face-stuffing, and arrogance are not virtues. The oil we reap from these lands aren't to protect our infrastructure, on the contrary, they are to profit from those who wish to drive the Escalades everytime they go down the street to the store.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 08:19 PM
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Yea! When I read this I got an idea. Already writing a letter to the local tv stations to see if they can do a story on this or cover it. I doubt it will do anything, but if people send letters to their local news stations and then if enough people send in letters or call, maybe the people who run the news stations will not be afraid of the Bush administration, the same one that told the news channels that if they ever cover a third party candidate or issue they will be punished.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 08:49 PM
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hehe not a chance. No matter what injustices the previous US administrations have done, no matter how horrible or evil they will never face War Crime Charges. Ever. I personally think the Bush Administration and US soldiers who commit these crimes should face the International War Crimes Court in The Hague, but would the US ever let any US soldier or US citizen subject to a "inquisition" by those damn socialist Europeans?


thanks,
drfunk.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 08:54 PM
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WOW man we should just lay down our arms bring all our troops home
hang george bush and freinds,,, let Kerry be pres,, and start praying to allah...



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 08:56 PM
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Too bad its never going to lead to any arrests. They should imprison the whole bunch of them,send them to Iraq where I can be sent over and stand "guard" over them.

I'd like nothing better.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:07 PM
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You've got to be kidding. Do the really think they will get anywhere with this?

I almost feel like I'm having a deja vu---it's really 1968, right? The presidential election, the convention in Chicago, the military-industrail complex?
We are no longer in VietNam. Now it's Iraq. Could be Iran or Korea, again.

We've been through military actions off and on for over fifty years. Through Democratic and Republican administrations.
Could it be you are trying to punish the wrong people? It's the people pulling the strings in Washington that you want to punish. Putting the White House on trial is not a means to the end you are seeking.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Aelita

Originally posted by The Vagabond

Every nation has the right to advance its interests- if there is a conflict then you slug it out and the stronger side gets its way.



In one elegant move of your quill, you justified the perpetrators of WWII, among others. Sure, Hitler had the right to annex Chezchoslovakia etc. You may say he lost anyway. Well he did, but look at the staggering cost in human lives, of application of that doctrine of yours (and Hitler's).

The German nation perceived ridding its territory of Jews as advancement of its interests. To this end, they contructed concentration camps and gas chambers. You, of course, endorse all of that. They were just trying to "get its way", the way you put it.


Germany lost though. Proof positive that my system works. It's like I said, everyone has the right to advance their own cause, even if that includes annexing territories vital to the future or security of your nation.

If everyone believes your wrong, they can take you down just like we did to Hitler. There is a big difference between that and a court, where any high-strung minority opinion can overthrow the rest of us just because they wish the world was perfect.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond

Originally posted by Aelita

Originally posted by The Vagabond

Every nation has the right to advance its interests- if there is a conflict then you slug it out and the stronger side gets its way.



In one elegant move of your quill, you justified the perpetrators of WWII, among others. Sure, Hitler had the right to annex Chezchoslovakia etc. You may say he lost anyway. Well he did, but look at the staggering cost in human lives, of application of that doctrine of yours (and Hitler's).

The German nation perceived ridding its territory of Jews as advancement of its interests. To this end, they contructed concentration camps and gas chambers. You, of course, endorse all of that. They were just trying to "get its way", the way you put it.


Germany lost though. Proof positive that my system works. It's like I said, everyone has the right to advance their own cause, even if that includes annexing territories vital to the future or security of your nation.

If everyone believes your wrong, they can take you down just like we did to Hitler. There is a big difference between that and a court, where any high-strung minority opinion can overthrow the rest of us just because they wish the world was perfect.


Well Vagabond you are indeed a fascist.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by JoeTex
WOW man we should just lay down our arms bring all our troops home
hang george bush and freinds,,, let Kerry be pres,, and start praying to allah...


That is one of the most oversimplifying statements I have heard on this topic. It's not about religion, it's not about Kerry. It's about making sense when you go to war. It's about not killing civilians for no reason. It's about not dehumanizing the "enemy" nation by avoiding at all costs to disclose just how many Iraqis have been killed since the beginning of the war.

Let's not fool ourselves. If the Bush administration really cared about the welfare of the Iraqi people in this war, it would offer sympathies for the Iraqi lives lost. It would disclose the number of Iraqi victims and mourn them as it mourns the loss of American soldiers.

That the Bush administration and the media have so easily brushed under the carpet the fact that numerous thousand of Iraqis - a lot of them civilians - have lost their lives since the beginning of the war, proves that this is a war for the oil resources of Iraq, and not the welfare of the Iraqis. In my view, this justifies John Kerry when he says that toppling Saddam was the right decision, but that the way it was done was way wrong.

Oh, I forgot... politicians shouldn't be smart and express nuances, right?



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:39 PM
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Otts,

Sometimes simple is the way to go, when expressing a point.

Now, about bringing lawyers into this whole mess...
I doubt they'll be able to express themselves so simply!



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 09:58 PM
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Ramsey Clark is a lunatic.
All other nations should take note. This could only happen in America.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:08 PM
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It's happened in Japan too. It happened awhile ago, but they specifically focused on Bush. The people who testified and decided were from around the world.



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Ramsey Clark is a lunatic.
All other nations should take note. This could only happen in America.


"You may be right, he may be crazy, but it might be a lunatic you're looking for"!?!



posted on Aug, 17 2004 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jamuhn
It's happened in Japan too. It happened awhile ago, but they specifically focused on Bush. The people who testified and decided were from around the world.
Well, my point is that Bush is the President of the US and this "trial" is taking place in the US.

Regardless of how ridiculous it all is, the freedom to do so is to be applauded and this kind of freedom to assail ones leaders is not widely enjoyed in the world. It most assuredly could not have happened in Iraq. It could not happen in Vietnam, China, North Korea, Cuba, to name but a few.

Instead of constantly denigrating the US, the world should take notice of our model of democracy. We haven't reached perfection yet, but we've got the playbook.


j2ts2:
You may be right, he may be crazy, but it might be a lunatic you're looking for"!?!

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Brilliant!



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