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Another new surprise from Elenin - Hydrogen Cyanide

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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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They have now found hydrogen cyanide on Elenin:

spaceobs.org...

Is this something we should be worried about? or is it common for comets to carry deadly gasses?

en.wikipedia.org...

Have there been comets in the past that have produced this toxic gas that we have passed through the tail?
How do we protect ourselves from the gas if it is a problem?




posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by KSprepared
They have now found hydrogen cyanide on Elenin:

spaceobs.org...

Is this something we should be worried about? or is it common for comets to carry deadly gasses?

en.wikipedia.org...

Have there been comets in the past that have produced this toxic gas that we have passed through the tail?
How do we protect ourselves from the gas if it is a problem?


This would have been quicker than opening a thread

Nothing to worry about. Peace



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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reply to post by Thundersmurf
 

cool, how did you do that ?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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It seems comet Halley also contained Hydrogen cyanide polymers.


The original presence on cometary nuclei of frozen volatiles such as methane, ammonia and water makes them ideal sites for the formation and condensed-phase polymerization of hydrogen cyanide. We propose that the non-volatile black crust of comet Halley consists largely of such polymers


www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say its common.

ALS



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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reply to post by icepack
 


Let Me Google That For You

I love it. Always makes me smile when people haven't seen it before


Peace in the 2nd line



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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reply to post by Thundersmurf
 


Yes do let us in on that little trick.
2nd

Edit: posting at the same time ta for that
edit on 7/8/11 by goldentorch because: edit



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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How do they find out that Elenin has hydrogen cyanide? i am just curious how do they know..



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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I'm not certain but I think it has something to do with the light spectrum of the comet. Different colour, different properties.

ALS



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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My guess is they don't. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good 'spiracy theory! Ok now...as you were......



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
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I'm not certain but I think it has something to do with the light spectrum of the comet. Different colour, different properties.



true enough... now the OP should post the complete findings of the gasses present in thee comet...
i would bet that the hydrogen cyanide percentage is very, very low.... sorta like the ammount of Argon gas thats free in the Earth atmosphere

the sensationalism attempt is not very well accepted... i guess the thought is that the masses will flock to gas mask suppliers as we orbit though the comets' tail of debris later this or next year



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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From the OP's article:


the derived HCN production rate is 1.5 x 10^25 molecules/s


That is very low.

ALS



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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In an effort of discussion, Comet Elenin and hydrogen cyanide is a great topic to mention the hypothetical conditions by which certain gaseous elements surrounding Comet Elenin suddenly become a threat to human life. While this material may be of an adult nature, I will attempt to present it without embellishing any given area that might concern me on a personal level and please remember that this is just discussion.

First off, scale and proportion are key. In that regard the size of the incoming object is said to be 1/6 th size of our sun. That's extremely big huge. That's possibly 4-6 times bigger than Jupiter. Something this size with its own polarity and magnetic influences, along with gravity waves has the potential for great ELE event effects long before we ever get to hydrogen cyanide being a danger, but I still think it is a good example to explore hypothetical possibilities.

Add in the serious amounts of never ending gasses on that huge object and well, OK, consider this, any object that large and coming as close as it is even if we think in astronomical units that its still out there, this thing is so huge that it is going to be the boss like it or not in all matters known and unknown.

Based on the size of the object and the distance to earth and our sun this object of such a huge dimension could then theoretically penetrate earth's outer magnetosphere and earth's upper stratosphere. A penetration into the earth's magnetosphere-upper atmosphere would provide rich oxygen to fuel in effect a huge jet fuel fire ball.

The igniting and sudden combustion of the oxygen atmosphere could in effect destroy 1/3 of the planet or more depending on many other factors.

The areas on the surface of the earth closest to the object as it passes, the pass "PATH" would be no doubt be completely destroyed because where ever there is oxygen air, the fire ball will consume it. As the planet spins, critical areas will be slowly moving on the surface of the planet based on how many days it takes to be out of direct influence.

Being in a cave or bunker, or deep sub-level underground parking structure or some old government missile silo isn't going to help at all. While there are those that will tell you to try, well, there trying to be positive in the face of truth and well if they were truly honest, they would have to admit that there is nothing we the common surface dweller could do, but let's not think about it because of course its a depressing subject matter.

Of course death and annihilation is always going to be a depressing subject matter "for those about to rock," but for the elite, it will be a different story of sorts.

You would probably have to be 15-20 miles deep, like in all those secret tax payer paid for DUMB underground bunker complexes that have been built for the elite and their slaves to be safe and dumb in.

Only at such a depth with complete ability to produce water, oxygen and scrub the gasses, life could and is being planned for 15yrs in some cases before the evil elite rise from the grave like roaches and begin to infest the next generation of mankind. Armed with secret technology and alien partners, it would be something new indeed.

Unless you are as deep as I mentioned, 15-20 miles deep, everything on the surface of the planet will succumb to the oxygen atmosphere igniting like jet fuel. End of hypothetical story. Anyone who doesn't quite get is probably better off.

In closing I would add that we must now add this new real danger to the list of other real dangers that could eliminate humanity long before the atmosphere ignites. One in particular is the potential for extreme and strong electromagnetic properties that will effect the human brain in a most grave way. Oh well, I will try not to worry about it, most people wont even notice.

There are indeed so many ways we could die on the current dinner platter, it reminds me of grandmas thanksgiving dinner with so much food for so many and well, besides, if its all been planned by design and secret technology, then we are just actors on a world stage that is getting ready to see the face of reality as they designed it.

Try to think positive, but that doesn't mean deny the truth of any hypothetical ELE scenario. It's just data to consider if you are of the type that truly wants to know what the possibilities are in a cold hard scientific type of way.

Thanks for the thread.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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I know I am not sopposed to just say "me too" but, I would like to know how you did that too. I am not real spiffy of the ins and outs of what you can do with computers and that was really neat.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Very Cool, thanks for that!



Originally posted by Thundersmurf
reply to post by icepack
 


Let Me Google That For You

I love it. Always makes me smile when people haven't seen it before


Peace in the 2nd line



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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should we be more worried about the sun exploding?
or that neighboring black hole sucking us in?
Or maybe even Obama in a second term?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Where's the science in that? The coma is 200,000 km, not the comet itself. The coma is gas escaping from the nucleus of comet and as a result has little to no mass. The comet itself is only 4 km across, which means it has essentially no gravitational impact on anything at all. Then there's the fact that Elenin will not be coming close enough to us for us to pass through its coma. Even if we did there's no indication that it would have any different effect on Earth than when we pass through a comet's tail, as they are composed of the same gases. This is just another fearmongering post based on no substantial evidence of any kind.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Thundersmurf

Originally posted by KSprepared
They have now found hydrogen cyanide on Elenin:

spaceobs.org...

Is this something we should be worried about? or is it common for comets to carry deadly gasses?

en.wikipedia.org...

Have there been comets in the past that have produced this toxic gas that we have passed through the tail?
How do we protect ourselves from the gas if it is a problem?


This would have been quicker than opening a thread

Nothing to worry about. Peace


omg the world is indeed going to end....GOD is that you? how did you do that?
edit on 7-8-2011 by Noobastronomer because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Something just popped into my mind when I watched the structure of the molecule. The pattern is very similar to the flower of life
Maybe this is just coincidence but don't you think it is strange that a molecule structure, which is considered as being deadly, have a similarity with the symbol (flower of life) that is all that is?

Just to consider...


Thruthseek3r



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by KSprepared
They have now found hydrogen cyanide on Elenin:

spaceobs.org...

Is this something we should be worried about? or is it common for comets to carry deadly gasses?

en.wikipedia.org...

Have there been comets in the past that have produced this toxic gas that we have passed through the tail?
How do we protect ourselves from the gas if it is a problem?


If you read Leonid's blog further, you get to the following :

the derived HCN production rate is 1.5 x 1025 molecules/s, comparable to the mean level measured in comet 103P/Hartley at the same heliocentric distance in late 2010 (Drahus et al. 2011, Ap.J. 734, L4).

that should answer your question.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Guess again. It is now visable from earth and they can look at the colors on a spectrograph and tell what chemical components it is comprised of. Does this sound like fiction to you? I promise its not.



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