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Richard Hoagland in the UK – a new low for Exopolitics?

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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:20 AM
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Richard C Hoagland has been added at the last minute to the bill of speakers at the UK Exopolitics Conference this weekend. His subject is, ‘The REAL Story of Elenin ... NASA's Astonishing Visit to Vesta ... and the Secret Space Program.’ It appears that the Elenin story is the one where he believes that it is ‘hiding’ a spacecraft.

Is there no bandwagon so pathetic that Hoagland won’t try to jump on it, and is the Exopolitics movement now so desperate for publicity that it will pay for Hoagland to support it?




posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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Do you know for a fact there isnt one behind the comet?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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And how would I know that? Sometimes we have to use reason, deduction and, oh yes, our experience of the fools who said the same thing about Hale-Bopp and caused people to die, to reach our judgments.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Snippy23
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And how would I know that? Sometimes we have to use reason, deduction and, oh yes, our experience of the fools who said the same thing about Hale-Bopp and caused people to die, to reach our judgments.



So long as you keep an open mind and admit you dont have all the answers either. Nothing wrong with offering alternative theories on stuff.. We have learned time and again that the offical answer sometimes is not always the right answer.

At least he has the stones to actually speak in public about this stuff.
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:30 AM
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post by Snippy23
Is there no bandwagon so pathetic that Hoagland won’t try to jump on it

From what I've seen no there isn't , Hoagland and his friends will say anything that will bolster their book sales and get them on the lucrative speaking tours , they are parasites feeding off the subject



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Snippy23
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And how would I know that? Sometimes we have to use reason, deduction and, oh yes, our experience of the fools who said the same thing about Hale-Bopp and caused people to die, to reach our judgments.



So long as you keep an open mind and admit you dont have all the answers either. Nothing wrong with offering alternative theories on stuff.. We have learned time and again that the offical answer sometimes is not always the right answer.

At least he has the stones to actually speak in public about this stuff.
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Beautifully handled!

Exopolitics is universal politics - why wouldn't talk-a-lot Hoagy be there? Seems pretty right he is actually...

Listened to a lot of Hoagy - have his book matter of fact... great read - just wondering what the OP has done to contribute to the ET/UFO field as he is bagging a veteran in Hoagy?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Although I not always agree with Hoagland's theories, some of his theories seem plausible. I was really amazed about his mathematical approach regarding the position of earth pyramids and the "ones on Mars".
With mathematical precision he calculated their exact location. Is that coincedence? I do not believe in that much luck. I believe in alien life just as he does but my approach is a different one. I admire his persistence and his dedication regarding disclosure of UFO files. I would not immediately question the man's theories. Why? He can not prove he is right but we can also not show any evidence that he is wrong. In every therory is a bit of truth.

Greetz,

1967sander



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
as he is bagging a veteran in Hoagy?


A veteran in what? Writing books about speculative theses even if proven wrong over and over? Mars Face/Pyramids anyone? Now it's Elenin. Hoagland = Fail.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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With mathematical precision he calculated their exact locati


He calculated positions of "Mars Pyramids"..there is only a problem..they don't exist. Pretty weak science IMO

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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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There IS a spaceship behind Elenin.

It will arrive in October 28th or whatever, also the end date for the Mayan Calendar according to John Calleman.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:02 AM
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I quite like Mr Hoagland, his speaking ability, and his dedication to his beliefs.

I don't, however, believe what he believes, even though I do stick to the idea of life existing in the universe other than ours, and that they have probably visited our tiny planet.

I do think he is being honest in his research - to a degree - but I also consider the possibility that he is ultimately engaging in a real-time form of creative sci-fi authorship that sees his "beliefs" - read ideas and concepts - being promoted in the media as reality.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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post by watchZEITGEISTnow
just wondering what the OP has done to contribute to the ET/UFO field

What has Hoagland done to contribute to the ET/UFO field , apart from wild claims and plagiarism .

From Ralph Greenberg
Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington

As you may know, I have written a long and well-documented article on the history of the idea that Europa might have an ocean. Over the years, many people have been misled by Richard Hoagland to believe that he was the originator of that idea, as well as the idea that life might develop in such an ocean.
www.rense.com...


Is Comet Elenin a time capsule sent by our ancestors containing important information crucial for this time?


Richard shares his convincing theory about Comet Elenin, its symbolism, purpose and message which is a positive one.
He rips apart the fear-porn propaganda about Comet Elenin as this is a key point in time and someone or something is intervening to steer consciousness into another direction.
Could it be that Elenin is a time capsule sent by our ancestors containing important information crucial for this time? Then, Hoagland weaves together an intense eye-opener which connects Comet Elenin with September 11, the original masonic message, the bombing in Norway and the secret space program.
www.redicecreations.com...



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:17 AM
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How can you be so sure that there are no pyramids? Because NASA tells us? The only "agency" that has access to the real images that refuses to release the original high resolution data? We fully depend on what a government agency puts on our plate and most of us eat anything they serve without questioning what we are eating and if the meal is not fresh or has been warmed up after being in the fridge for a long time.

As long as we do not have any secundary source which we can use to verify the (non)existence of pyramids on Mars, we should not immediately assume that there are none! What we need is proof not just a few non verifiable photos from NASA.

Greetz,

1967sander



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:23 AM
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As you can see from my profile I live in the Valles Marineris , I went to Cydonia last year and they are just hills



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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its a very sad state of affairs, thats for sure!



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:28 AM
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Too many people on here believe the crap that NASA and TPTB spoon feed the public, I applaud anyone who has the nuts to challenge what they say.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I think Hoagland and the Exopolitics crew should get along just fine.
Birds of a feather, as it were.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Do you know for a fact there isnt one behind the comet?

Do you know for a fact there is?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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From what I've seen no there isn't , Hoagland and his friends will say anything that will bolster their book sales and get them on the lucrative speaking tours , they are parasites feeding off the subject
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I completely agree, Gortex. It's "The Linda Moulton Howe School of Pay-per-View Ufology", once again. Kudos, mate. The trouble is, if people keep believing this drivel surrounding Nibiru/Planet X or 2012, then these disgusting beggars will continue to peddle their filth.




posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by galactictuan
It will arrive in October 28th or whatever, also the end date for the Mayan Calendar according to John Calleman.


Or whatever?!



What calculations did you use to reach Oct 28th, More importantly how did you arrive at the "whatever" conclusion?!

Desperate.
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