Saudi Bombshell Released by The U.S. Dept of Defense !

Saudi Bombshell Released by The U.S. Dept of Defense !

Intel Report Suggests That Saudi Royals Are Crypto Jews

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.
Iraqi Report (large pdf – worth looking at)

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932.

Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the “jihad” in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it’s history. IncludingThe Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab’s association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

another story, from 1969 suggests similar circumstances.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi’s followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

What ! … the Turks too?
Hmmmm maybe this is explaining things?
I always wondered what brought down the Ottoman Empire.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab’s grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

I always thought the Saudis were “stockholders” and “board members” of TPTB, inc.
I have been aware of all this since the early 70’s, when the 1973 “oil crisis” was ongoing.
This is the first time a high U.S. Govt agency is “outing” the story!

Well, the original Muslim conquests did begin in what is now Saudi Arabia !
Muslim Conquests

Has “Jewish” influence always played major roles?

Considering the Source of all this, I wonder if the D.O.D. has actually “released” these reports? AND WHY EXACTLY ?

More about Wahhab

The articles and links are eye opening to say the least, even if somebody went through a lot of trouble to “make the case” true or not !!!!

And the big question is “How does this affect Saudi/U.S./U.K/Israeli relations ?”

This may give more credibility to the theories of an ancient Merchant/Business Elite Class controlling most everything, since they were around long before the “Abrahamic” religions !

The “religious” aspects of today’s financial world certainly do play a major role.

The Saudis may have been present at The Yalta Conference.
And met with FDR Aboard a U.S. ship.

The ancient PTB look like they knew what they were doing after all !!

Geez as if the world wasn't jacked up enough. I'm going underground.

So....

The Saudis and their ancestors have planned for centuries to help discredit Islam in an attempt to take over the world and it finally started to succeed with 9/11?

Sorry if I'm repeating anything from the OP, just trying to wrap my head around it somewhat. Thanks for posting.

This is one of the most mind-boggling things I've heard in a long time. I intend to do some research of my own into this....

reply to post by xuenchen


So how do you explain the work done by Ataturk?

Very secular and "people" centered. Hardly "wahabist".

I believe the saudi situation was behind 9/11

was not bin laden a saudi?

goes back to oil deals in the 1930's i think

The foundation of the entire US economy is based upon Saudi Petroleum wealth, namely the Petro Dollar system. Saudi Wealth controls the US economy, citi solutions bank in New York is the repository of petroleum trading accounts, hundreds of billions that float in and out of the NYSE and COMEX.

We cannot move without explicit Saudi permission.

Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by xuenchen

 

So how do you explain the work done by Ataturk?

Very secular and "people" centered. Hardly "wahabist".

I don't know.

The article seems to mention Him as possibly being of Jewish ancestry, not really connected to the Saudis.

His father was in the military as well as being a merchant.

Unless the tie-in they intended was to associate "infiltration" and "cloaking" as an agenda of some kind similar to the Saudis.

It does seem His genuine "ancestry" is a mystery .... sometimes that is a clue to hidden agendas and true backgrounds.

His policies were similar to the Saudis however, and todays situation and relations to the U.S. are very similar in Turkey and Saudi Arabia ! (Saudi Oil, Turkey is a NATO member, etc.)
Similar political policies of both, yet very different religious "factional idealisms" !

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (pronounced [musˈtafa keˈmaɫ ataˈtyɾk]; 19 May 1881 by a posteriori[1]–10 November 1938) was an Ottoman and Turkish army officer, revolutionary statesman, writer, and the first President of Turkey. He is credited with being the founder of the Republic of Turkey.

Atatürk was a military officer during World War I.[2] Following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, he led the Turkish national movement in the Turkish War of Independence. [color=limegreen]Having established a provisional government in Ankara, he defeated the forces sent by the Allies. His military campaigns gained Turkey independence. Atatürk then embarked upon a program of political, economic, and cultural reforms, seeking to transform the former Ottoman Empire into a modern, westernized and secular nation-state. The principles of Atatürk's reforms, upon which modern Turkey was established, are referred to as Kemalism.

According to Encyclopaedia Judaica, one assertion that was commonly made by many Jews of Salonika was that Kemal Atatürk was of Doenmeh origin. This view was eagerly embraced by many of Atatürk’s religious opponents and denied by the Turkish government.

His father Ali Rıza is thought to be of Albanian origin; however, according to Falih Rıfkı Atay, Ali Rıza's ancestors were from Söke in the Aydın Province of Anatolia. His mother Zübeyde is thought to be of Turkish origin and according to Şevket Süreyya Aydemir, she was of Yörük ancestry.

[color=limegreen]He leads a fight against the Allies, yet then turns (or at least attempted to) an Islamic culture into a westernized state.
that could be a clue ?

Mustafa Kemal capitalized on his reputation as an efficient military leader and spent the following years, up until his death in 1938, instituting political, economic, and social reforms. In doing so, he transformed Turkish society from perceiving itself as a Muslim part of a vast Empire into a modern, democratic, and secular nation-state.

Originally posted by guessing

I believe the saudi situation was behind 9/11

was not bin laden a saudi?

goes back to oil deals in the 1930's i think

Bin Laden was a Saudi ....

Bin Laden Family
The bin Laden family (Arabic: بن لادن‎, bin Lādin), also spelled bin Ladin, is a wealthy family intimately connected with the innermost circles of the Saudi royal family. The family was thrown into media spotlight through the activities of one of its members, Osama bin Laden. The financial interests of the bin Laden family are represented by the Saudi Binladin Group, a global oil and equity management conglomerate grossing $5 billion US$ annually, and one of the largest construction firms in the Islamic world, with offices in London and Geneva.

Makes ya wonder, don't it?


here is another wild theory

Jewish Taliban ?????
Interestingly, an Israeli-born Jew, Rose Cohen, from Sydney (Australia), [color=limegreen]who believes that Osama Bin Laden was Jewish too – because his mother had Jewish roots. Israel’s second President, Itzahk Ben-Zvi, in his book ‘The Exiled and Redeemed’ (1957) – had claimed that some tribes of Pakhtun (Taliban) are descends from the ancient Israeli tribe of Ephraim (Afridi). The Pakhtun, who live in eastern and southern Afghanistan and northwest Pakistan, had arrived there as early as 2700 BCE. That would make Taliban leader Mullah Omar, a Jewish Rabbi!!

WHHeeeew !!!!!

reply to post by xuenchen


That is why most of the real locations of the Hebrew/Moses archaeological sites have never been revealed. Most of them located in Saudi Arabia such as the 12 pillars the fountain from the rock, etc... are all under extreme security zones watch. The probability that they are Jews, makes a very high sense about everything happening in the world right now. (Exp: their political alliances, etc...)

reply to post by xuenchen


about five years ago I read a faacinating book "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens...It was very informative as the man spent a large portion of his life studying multiple religions, researching deeply the origins of religions..

In the book his research which was verified by other scholars are that in regards to the OP.. that Islam was created by jewish leaders, as a vehicle/outlet to the shame of the defeated people who were indctrinated into the early islam, kinda a coping mechanism..

Originally posted by rebeldog
reply to post by xuenchen

 

about five years ago I read a faacinating book "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens...It was very informative as the man spent a large portion of his life studying multiple religions, researching deeply the origins of religions..

In the book his research which was verified by other scholars are that in regards to the OP.. that Islam was created by jewish leaders, as a vehicle/outlet to the shame of the defeated people who were indctrinated into the early islam, kinda a coping mechanism..

Excellent point

feel free to elaborate.

reply to post by xuenchen


Don't be so shocked, the King of Jordan is technically Jewish although he's Muslim, his American mother was Jewish.

Many Arabian royals including Ghaddafi are decendants of a Jew and you can bank on it a majority of Arabs has at least one in their ancestrial family tree.

reply to post by xuenchen


A Mullah is NOT a Rabbi, in fact so far from it. A convert to Orthodox Judiasm is far more knowledged about Judiasm than any Mullah.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Don't be so shocked, the King of Jordan is technically Jewish although he's Muslim, his American mother was Jewish.

Many Arabian royals including Ghaddafi are decendants of a Jew and you can bank on it a majority of Arabs has at least one in their ancestrial family tree.

edit on 7-8-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)

no shock to me.

good post.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by xuenchen

 

A Mullah is NOT a Rabbi, in fact so far from it. A convert to Orthodox Judiasm is far more knowledged about Judiasm than any Mullah.

perhaps you can elaborate?

many people don't understand the real differences.

especially about Judaism and perhaps Zionism.

thanks in advance!

Originally posted by xuenchen
Saudi Bombshell Released by The U.S. Dept of Defense !

Intel Report Suggests That Saudi Royals Are Crypto Jews

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.
Iraqi Report (large pdf – worth looking at)

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932.

Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the “jihad” in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it’s history. IncludingThe Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab’s association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

another story, from 1969 suggests similar circumstances.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi’s followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

What ! … the Turks too?
Hmmmm maybe this is explaining things?
I always wondered what brought down the Ottoman Empire.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab’s grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

I always thought the Saudis were “stockholders” and “board members” of TPTB, inc.
I have been aware of all this since the early 70’s, when the 1973 “oil crisis” was ongoing.
This is the first time a high U.S. Govt agency is “outing” the story!

Well, the original Muslim conquests did begin in what is now Saudi Arabia !
Muslim Conquests

Has “Jewish” influence always played major roles?

Considering the Source of all this, I wonder if the D.O.D. has actually “released” these reports? AND WHY EXACTLY ?

More about Wahhab

The articles and links are eye opening to say the least, even if somebody went through a lot of trouble to “make the case” true or not !!!!

And the big question is “How does this affect Saudi/U.S./U.K/Israeli relations ?”

This may give more credibility to the theories of an ancient Merchant/Business Elite Class controlling most everything, since they were around long before the “Abrahamic” religions !

The “religious” aspects of today’s financial world certainly do play a major role.

The Saudis may have been present at The Yalta Conference.
And met with FDR Aboard a U.S. ship.

The ancient PTB look like they knew what they were doing after all !!

chum for the anti-Israel sharks so they can show their hand.

Skinhead and Muslims will love this.

reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman

chum for the anti-Israel sharks so they can show their hand.

Skinhead and Muslims will love this.

excuse me but i'm a little slow today.

can you elaborate some.

details are welcome !!!!

this is the biggest lump of horse manure i have ever seen on ats

you are quoting from a blog..

do you work for skull and bones by any chance? (joke)

the nazis and mussie fundies will indead enjoy this one

You got this off Rense LOL!!! I laughed while reading it. I coudnt even finish the article.