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posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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You seem a bit frazzled it must be tough to watch you idol falter. I feel for you, we are seperate in our political beliefs but we are fellow humans and I extend my sympathy to you friend.




posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish

Originally posted by macman
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Love hearing the surplus argument brought up.

You do realize that the surplus was smoke and mirrors?

But, believing that it was not, the surplus was nothing more then tax dollars, taken from tax payers. It was not and is not the Govt's money. So the surplus should have never been.

But, even with that. It is a combined effort steaming back all the way the creation of the great society.


So to hear you tell it, the government has no money? Just exactly where is the government supposed to get "it's money" if not from taxpayers? How are we supposed to fund our military, build roads & bridges, dams & levees, provide police & fire protection or educate our children, etc... without revenue from taxpayers?

Furthermore, even if it were all "smoke & mirrors," apparently by the time Bush left office, despite the fact that he had "smoke & mirrors" to work with, he still couldn't show a surplus. So what the hell happened?


The tax dollars were not the property of the Govt to keep as a surplus. Anything over keeping the Govt out of the Red should have been returned.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
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You have two children and one starts a fire and the other tries to put it out


The analogy doesn't work, sorry.

In this scenario both children started the fire; they are both lying, and both blaming the other.


Too bad the parents gave them gas and matches to play with in the first place.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Who ever gets the job gets dumped on. You're supposed to be able to take a bit of heat when you consider yourself the most qualified person in the planet to be the leader of the free world and the most powerful person on the planet.

Time for him to do one of two things. Man up and admit some flaws in his approach/policy and take a different approach or hunker down and spread fear to gin up the base for 2012. He'll do what all of these self interested politians do and thats the latter

He could start fixing things by summarily firing the Secretary of the Treasury Monday morning.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by spyder550

Originally posted by macman

Spending, plain and simple.

If Obama and the Govt weren't spending like a drunken sailor, then this would not have happened.


wait, so what that 6,700 DOW 28 months ago??? Magic?

How about the shedding of half a 400,000 jobs a month...

Claims like your are the most ridiculous



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by professornurbs
reply to post by newcovenant
 


You seem a bit frazzled it must be tough to watch you idol falter. I feel for you, we are seperate in our political beliefs but we are fellow humans and I extend my sympathy to you friend.



Again with the personal assessments. Read my signature.
If you got nothing...just admit it. Saves everyone a lot of time.
Frankly, I don't think we have that much left to be squandering on falsehoods and lies but oh... some people find the time.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.


Tea Party, as a whole is not Republican Or Democrat.
As a whole, they are smaller Govt and less taxes and less spending.

Wrong is wrong, no matter what party they are attached too.
Bush was wrong, Clinton was wrong and now Obama is wrong.

Obama just happens to be in the driver's seat.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by spyder550

Originally posted by macman

Spending, plain and simple.

If Obama and the Govt weren't spending like a drunken sailor, then this would not have happened.


wait, so what that 6,700 DOW 28 months ago??? Magic?

How about the shedding of half a 400,000 jobs a month...

Claims like your are the most ridiculous






Wow, a Bull run, and then a HUGE dump is your evidence?????

edit on 6-8-2011 by macman because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by newcovenant
 



You have two children and one starts a fire and the other tries to put it out


The analogy doesn't work, sorry.

In this scenario both children started the fire; they are both lying, and both blaming the other.


Too bad the parents gave them gas and matches to play with in the first place.




Funny. I like this.
And yes, you are probably right. When it comes down to it we all were asleep at the wheel and allowed this to get out of control. Fighting amongst ourselves, calling each other ignorant and stupid won't help fix it.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by newcovenant
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.


Tea Party, as a whole is...


A bunch of Ex Bush voters who realized that they couldn't regain a foothold in the political world
while being associated with GWB. You make it sound as if millions of full grown adults appeared out of thin air
and decided to become hyper ideologues



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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congress is to blame really.....
congress is the one who controls the purse strings after all...
congress is so out of wack, that they wouldn't be able to agree on weather they should much of anything, unless of course, it's to go on vacation!!!

got a question for yas ....
did standard and poor grade any of those mortgage securities, ya know the ones that were graded AAA but were really FFF-?? if they were, well, got news for them!! THEY ARE TO BLAME ALSO and should be downgraded to DDD!!!

the republicans are to blame, the democrats are to blame, the banks are to blame, the people are to blame, there's plenty of blame to go around, take your share and eat it!! and after you are done, may I suggest that we get to work figuring our way out of this mess we are in??
rome burns, and the fiddle plays on.....



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by newcovenant
 

Who ever gets the job gets dumped on. You're supposed to be able to take a bit of heat when you consider yourself the most qualified person in the planet to be the leader of the free world and the most powerful person on the planet.

Time for him to do one of two things. Man up and admit some flaws in his approach/policy and take a different approach or hunker down and spread fear to gin up the base for 2012. He'll do what all of these self interested politians do and thats the latter

He could start fixing things by summarily firing the Secretary of the Treasury Monday morning.


Here, I will summarize for newconenant.

Bush Bad.
Obama godlike.


Done.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by newcovenant
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.


Tea Party, as a whole is...


A bunch of Ex Bush voters who realized that they couldn't regain a foothold in the political world
while being associated with GWB. You make it sound as if millions of full grown adults appeared out of thin air
and decided to become hyper ideologues


Another failed assumption.
I did not vote for Bush.

Stop reading the Daily Kos. They are wrong.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by spyder550

Originally posted by macman

Spending, plain and simple.

If Obama and the Govt weren't spending like a drunken sailor, then this would not have happened.


wait, so what that 6,700 DOW 28 months ago??? Magic?

How about the shedding of half a 400,000 jobs a month...

Claims like your are the most ridiculous





Wow, a Bull run, and then a HUGE dump is your evidence?????



Ya when there is a bang and someone is on the floor bleeding, I assume the shot didn't come from a future
time and place.

The Huge dump was the dam breaking, come on



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by newcovenant
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.


Tea Party, as a whole is not Republican Or Democrat.
As a whole, they are smaller Govt and less taxes and less spending.

Wrong is wrong, no matter what party they are attached too.
Bush was wrong, Clinton was wrong and now Obama is wrong.

Obama just happens to be in the driver's seat.


Well, As he said, "the GOP drove us into the ditch", but now he is continuing to drive along the ditch, screwing the car up even worse, rather than getting back on the road.

Who gave this guy driving lessons?


I think he saved enough Fruit Loops box tops when he was a kid for his law degree as well.


I hope we can survive the next one and a halfs years so we can kick this cat to the curb and hopefully get someone better. But I have my doubts at the moment.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by newcovenant
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You work on the false premise that the Tea Party backs, or would back Bush. They would not.


I'm sorry. This is just hysterical.

Let's throw Jeb into the mix and see how they bite.


Tea Party, as a whole is...


A bunch of Ex Bush voters who realized that they couldn't regain a foothold in the political world
while being associated with GWB. You make it sound as if millions of full grown adults appeared out of thin air
and decided to become hyper ideologues


Another failed assumption.
I did not vote for Bush.

Stop reading the Daily Kos. They are wrong.



I am telling you, the TEA party is a rebranding effort, it is well documented in corporation.

You can play yourself if you'd like



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
 


If that is what you choose to believe who am I to talk you out of it?
Enjoy your fantasy world.





posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Yeah, ok...



Still, a bull run is nothing but.......a single instance of a run. That is it.

Now, show me a long term gain, rather then a shirt jump up and then down.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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maybe the only pathway in sight out of the ditch is much rockier and would be impossible for the car to drive through? so he's staying in the ditch till a better path is found???





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