Yes Republicans, there IS a global test...

reply to post by SeventhSeal

You are right to the idea that when they first started, it was more Libertarian.
You are wrong in the idea that they are vastly Republican, unless you only equate Republican to smaller Govt, Less spending, less taxes and more freedoms.

reply to post by HunkaHunka


Why do we have to abide that global test?

We're Americans. We don't have to follow the tests of the world.

The tea party did what they were elected to do and that was to try and stop spending. We can't spend our way out of this mess and the opinion of other governments or rating agencies is so much bs. I hope there will never be a liberal utopia where we all hold hands, eat tofu and become Eloi. Stop spending now and reduce the size and scope of government.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by 46ACE

 

I didn't say the reason was the tax cuts... the S&P said it was...

So perhaps THEY are engaging in class warfare? I think not.

Once again... from the S&P

He pointed to the decision by Congress about whether to extend the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts as one crucial area. "If you let them lapse for the high-income earners, that could give you another $950 billion," he said.

Not my words... His

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Fair 'nuff:
but you saw the article and its one sided black/white view as"proof"!( eliminating tax cuts was "THE answer") and posted it.
imho "the more we give them the more they spend".

reply to post by beezzer


I agree. Libs have to blame someone, usually Tea Party, for reckless govt. spending, on steroids,that results in consumers and employers scared to death of the future. Global test is the bond and stock market along with the value of the dollar as to where BO as POTUS is, uhmm, "leading".

Originally posted by Bramble Iceshimmer
The tea party did what they were elected to do and that was to try and stop spending. We can't spend our way out of this mess and the opinion of other governments or rating agencies is so much bs. I hope there will never be a liberal utopia where we all hold hands, eat tofu and become Eloi. Stop spending now and reduce the size and scope of government.

The Republicans who were elected aren't doing anything. They're acting like children and refuse to cooperate with the Democrats.

Cut funding to Planned Parenthood? NPR? NASA? But wait, federal funding for Marcus Bachmann's PRAY AWAY THE GAY clinic is ok. Oh and keeping troops in the Middle East. Yep. Republicans are in Congress for YOUR interest, not there to inflict their religious ideologies upon Americans. Nope, not at all.

Give me a break.

A liberal utopia? We're probably better off with that instead of what these idiotic Tea Partiers want.

reply to post by beezzer


Bush is the one that spun our debt out of control in the two wars and all the spending on spying on Americans.

I think Obama is nothing but a puppet but place the debt blame where it fits. The GOP did this from 2001 until they left office.

Originally posted by macman


And yes, Obama is a socialist.

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Who seems to keep passing legislation tailored to conservative demands.

He is an awful socialist

Tell me, Did Reagan or The Bush twins sign a bill cutting Trillions from the federal budget?

Can you post links?


Let's see how Socialist he is

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to post by beezzer

 

Bush is the one that spun our debt out of control in the two wars and all the spending on spying on Americans.

I think Obama is nothing but a puppet but place the debt blame where it fits. The GOP did this from 2001 until they left office.

So one the one hand it was Bushs' fault, but on the other hand, Obama is a puppet?

Must be nice to cherry pick. What's even better is you did it in the same post so no cut and paste!
Thanks!

reply to post by LoneGunMan


I don't understand how everyone is always placing blame on Bush. If you really believe Bush is the one to blame for this mess take a couple minutes and read this article. It's about how much Bush spent each year compared to Obama.

Nothing gets fixed if we keep blaming everyone.

The Truth about Obama’s Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

If the current administration had never spent they way they have, thn we'd not be in this mess in the first place.

Blaming republicans is a shallow and baseless argument.

Yes, but if the Republicans had of given up their entitlements like Bush tax cuts, then the current administration would have spent less.

BOTH sides are to blame, about as equally, for this mess.

why would millionars have to pay taxes

reply to post by HunkaHunka


What a crock!

S&P is trying to justify its ill-conceived move in down-grading the U.S. credit rating.

Anyone with half a brain understands that the "Bush tax cuts" are not the reason our economy is in trouble. The Democrat congress that was in power for Bush's last two years and Obama's first two years created this debacle with their moronic legislation on the banks as well as over-regulation of industy.

It isn't the lack of revenue, but the over-spending of congress that is the problem. If the Democrats want to support the world and allow "everyone" to experience "success" let them pay for it out of their own pockets.

The Obama-Reid-Pelosi combination is what has driven the U.S. to the brink of bankruptsy, not the Bush tax cuts.

reply to post by Bramble Iceshimmer




Well said Bramble!

Tofu is ewww and I really have no desire to hold hands with the sweaty-palmed eloi, lol

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
You see Republicans... we do NOT live in a vacuum where we can do whatever we want... there IS a global test... one that we are now very painfully aware of....

Shouldn't that be directed at the President more than only the Republicans? Why is the answer that the Dems seem to want to push is an ever increase in taxes and not a reduction in spending?

reply to post by HunkaHunka


yes 980 million that would be great if we had only been like a trillion in debt but its a lot more then that isn't it You need to stop eating what ever the left or right media feeds you and spewing it up on here like its proof. Bushs tax cuts are not the only reason for this. Obama could have pulled all the troops back home and relaxed but he didn't did he. The left is shameless in its ability to spin a story in their favor and when the right does it everybody jumps on them its actually quite funny to watch.

The people that keep pointing their finger at Obama and saying this is his fault, need only look at the differences in spending increases.

Obama's spending increases have only been at 9% of the GDP

Bush's were at 20% of the GDP.

You people are crazy. Bush and Obama are both terrible politicians. Favoring one over the other is stupid. Can't you just agree they are both boobs? Democrats, Republicans, Tea parties, etc...Its all the same brainless jerks.

reply to post by Evil_Santa


LOL!!!

Its sad to me that people still/always want to play the bipartisan game with so much on the line, and more and more being thrown into the pot of what is at stake every single second. The current administrations policies, which just so happens to be headed by Barack Obama at the moment, sitting at the position of President, almost exactly mirror most policies which were put into place by George W. Bush, and he has kept policies intact that Bush did as well, having not come up with them himself. I think this goes back many decades. I am sure Bush was told to see to it that many of Clinton's and even his fathers policies were kept in place, even if loosely placed on the table for later continuation.

It really does amaze me that people still see the President of the Unites States as someone who actually makes decisions. It has been obvious to me, at least, for awhile now that they are simply figureheads doing what they do best – selling a product to the American people and trying their best to maintain obedience. They are not in charge. If you don't know that, you don't know anything.

Everyone will keep bickering amongst themselves, it is called divide and conquer.. and it works like a charm.