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The issue of race...

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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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About a week ago, I "enraged"
a few other ATSers by suggesting that there is a racist element in America unquestionably against Obama. They were outraged that I would think such a thing in these modern times and scoffed that my insinuation was just a form of reverse racism meant to provide Obama with some sort of "pass" for his less than stellar performance as POTUS....(once again,
) I was astounded that something that has been, in many people's eyes, blatantly obvious since the beginning would be reduced to "crazy unbased theory" status.

Well here we are, roughly a week later and good 'ol Faux News delivers the goods, made to order with their controversial headline regarding Obama and his 50th birthday celebration...the one labeling it a "Hip-hop BBQ". The one where there was only one actual hip-hop artist present, Jay-Z. Of the 40 named guests, one is an actual hip-hop artist... yet that makes the entire event a "hip-hop bbq" even though the DJ played 70's/80's R&B AND Motown hits? Last time I checked, hip-hop is not synonymous with being black, so why was the entire event labeled as if it were? Is it not racist to assume that an event where black people are present MUST be an all hip-hop event? That no longer qualifies as a racial stereotype?

On top of that, Faux unsurprisingly decided to only feature images of other black attendees, neglecting any of the other races of the numerous guests at the celebration just to drive home the point.

Before someone runs in and says "but there were kids there dancing to hip-hop at one point so it WAS a Hip-hop BBQ", let's say a white POTUS held a birthday party, and one of the attendees was a country singer. Would it then be appropriate to label the entire event a "Hillbilly Hoedown" because country music was played for awhile even though the dj mostly played jazz and classical music as well?

Don't forget that the United States Marine Band was also there to supply musical entertainment.

No racism? Lol to the folks that were debating this, you are either a joke or blind with biased and are probably just one of the racists in the country that were against the man for no other reason than the color of skin and oddness of his name.

No, this isn't the type of racism from the pre-civil rights era where the N-word was openly flung around and people were lynched in the middle of the night. Like all things, racism has evolved with the times. These modern expressions of racism find the racists toe-ing the line antagonistically, some for fear of reprisal, some because they're cowards and some because it leaves them room to laughably play the "reverse-racism" card if they are ever called out for their antics... kinda like the sibling that repeatedly puts their finger a millimeter away from your eyeball while saying "I'm not toouuucchhiiinnnggg yooouuu" in a mocking manner until you finally slap their hand away. At which point they promptly cry and whine to mommy and daddy that you hit them for no reason....

I know of course, there will be some that will still pretend not to see the issue, and that's fine. That's what being a modern racist is all about.

Don't get it confused, this thread isn't about his politics or short-comings as a POTUS. This is about the blatant racism that some were enthusiastically trying to deny exists.

Thank you for your time and reading eyes.
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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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Race is a made up concept that allowed the British to enslave Africans.

Don't give in to the divisive action by the leadership. Race is not a problem in the world when others do not try to divide us into our "rightful" class.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:02 AM
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Actually,

Don't forget the classification of Race came from the occult Germans. They are the ones who really brought it home. Now they are still doing it , only by New Age Nazi UFO Hollow Earth Theories which are prevalent all over the place. Tales of special white Aliens in the middle of the earth. Heck, type it in the search bar here and you will see all the bigots openly expressing fantasies about being Pladians from the middle of earth where the great white perfect advanced people come from.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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It ain't easy being green. What makes you think purple is any better?



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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I agree. The issue is that only cretins use the "N" word. The racist use of language is now so much more coded. " Hip Hop", "Inner city". "multicultural" all carry massive connotations that are used to generate certain mental images.

Public Enemy Said it all with "Fear of a black planet".



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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I'm so tired of hearing about brown and white people, I'm brown you're white. I'm supposed to be doing dick, tom, harry, jane and spot things but I'm here. Race is only a state of mind why ever those rioters were angry, only god knows because I sure as hell don't.
I'm not attacking white people or anybody for that matter, only thing I'll attack will be breakfast if I'm awake to cook it.
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posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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Well written..It is cool to be a racist/bigot in this country again. The element was never gone just driven a little bit under ground..9/11 made it cool to be a bigot again. Ideologies are rarely debated without including the stance from which one is making their claim.."He is an atheist so don't believe anything he says"..He supports ..fill in the blank..so everything he says is worthless.

from the very uncool Spav5.

Peace

PS: When I say this country I mean the US..but it seems to be global as well.


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posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Watts
there is a racist element in America unquestionably

you are either a joke or blind with biased and are probably just one of the racists in the country that were against the man for no other reason than the color of skin and oddness of his name.




So let me get this straight...
ONE newspaper prints an article with ONE misleading headline, and therefore the whole country is racist.

ok. I see your logic.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 12:57 AM
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The only racism I see is whe I watch NASCAR.

Other than that?

Weak excuses for a false argument.

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posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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this country was attacked by a terrorist organization lead by osama bin laden, we then went after saddam hussein. then we elected a black president name barack hussein obama. OHhhh the irony.

someone is playing the mother of all joke and nobody is laughing except for the guy pulling it and me.LMAO

tell me oh wise one, name one president that is/was not hated. i can point the finger at five people that hate you RIGHT NOW and you're just a name without a face. now imagine if you posted your picture and if you're ugly even more people will hate you. does that make them racist? no, we naturally hate ugly people. but does this mean there isnt a race issue? of course not, its not that we're denying it, we do not care either way.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by isthisreallife
 


Actually,

Don't forget the classification of Race came from the occult Germans. They are the ones who really brought it home. Now they are still doing it , only by New Age Nazi UFO Hollow Earth Theories which are prevalent all over the place. Tales of special white Aliens in the middle of the earth. Heck, type it in the search bar here and you will see all the bigots openly expressing fantasies about being Pladians from the middle of earth where the great white perfect advanced people come from.


Wait... What? How do the Nazi's have anything to do with Fox News calling Obama's birthday a Hip Hop BBQ? The use of race as a flimsy justification for misdeeds goes back as far as civilization, National Socialists didn't invent it. Its something that's always kinda baffled me about this site. If those dastardly Nazi's had as much influence and as much mind blowing technology as HALF of the posters here seem to think, how in the nine hells did they ever lose the war? Just my two cents, let the world continue now...



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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You stated yourself that hip-hop isn't synonomous with blacks so by them labeling it a hip-hop event they were not referring to blacks.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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Also don't forget that there are many blacks who hate whites so I don't see why you only bring one side of the issue to the table and not the entire problem of racism in general. I'm sure it wouldn't take long to find some black publications and see how they have labeled some white events in the past.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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What a waste of my timing reading that..

Should be in the Rant Forum where it belongs..

Oh and BTW, Fox "always" twists the news..

It's not new and it's NOT the voice of the people..



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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Oh, yeah... REAL quality thread here guys...


And oh so "Political" to boot...



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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You think labeling the birthday a hip hop event is racist you should check out what the Naacp does.

www.theblaze.com...



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
Oh, yeah... REAL quality thread here guys...


And oh so "Political" to boot...


And thank you ever so much for adding just that right amount of sarcasm to the mix, that'll instill the desire for enlightened conversation, of that I'm sure.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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Racism is a bit of a misnomer. People toss about the term much to easily these days. It's become a crutch for many issues, both personal and social in nature.

Most people don't disapprove of skin color or accent or anything physical which might define a "racial" boundry in our species. Most people DO however find unfamiliar behaviors or belief systems to be functionally incompatible with the accepted standards of their local culture.

I don't want you to be in my face with your disruptive behaviors or threatening beliefs.. Simple really.

Everyone feels that way.. It's culturism, not racism.

Everyone has some predjudices towards certain types of people andgroups. Everyone also knows someone who might easily fall into one of those groups by race or nationality yet doesn't. That person, instead, seems to be "like us" and so we feel comfortable with them because their behavior is familiar despite their superficial differences.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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What's the difference between racism and multiculturalism? I'm not trying to be funny or cruel. On one hand we are told to embace our differences and on the other we are told not to. Personally I treat folks like I want to be treated regardless of what they like to eat, dress, or dance to. Besides why pick at each other when we have politicians.



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 05:00 AM
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Racism is not an embrace or acknowledgment of other cultures (which is multiculturalism). Racism is acting negatively or positively - yes, there can be positive racism...giving an asian student a harder math assignment because you believe all asians are good at math is an example - toward a specific person solely because that person is of another race and you have prior unfounded generalizations about the race in general.




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