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Are Chinese Companies Selling Pills Made of Dead Babies?

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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by newcovenant
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Here is a thought...maybe they are encouraging women to get pregnant .;....carry the pregnancy so far...then have an abortion...and they pay the woman for the fetus...then they make their pills....


Yeah, I think Planned Parenthood is behind this.
Get a grip.


Your sarcasm is duly noted.....and I do have a grip.....it is entirely possible the above is happening to make those pills...



Well I don't think it is.
Because of this part.




encouraging women to get pregnant



Women won't do this for money.
It is hard enough to find a surrogate.

Show me where this is done and I will take it back.
It would be new and among the lowest of an already rapidly descending staircase of lows for humanity.

Not only do I not believe it - I think it is wrong to make such an accusation without proof of any kind.

I think this is just hyperbole from a right to lifer.

I am not sure I even believe the story.
Who would take the stuff?
Shark fin and rhino horn yes.
Penis from almost anything.... even placenta BUT HUMAN ?
No. Makes one a cannibal, you know?

I do think there are "cannibals" and those who prey on babies.
Real babies. Finished ones.
But I don't think any of them have a shopping network yet.




posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I wonder what people think of this versus stem cell research?

Is one okay because there is actual science behind it? Yeah,they have used fetuses to get stem cells.....So.....

Is America Just as bad?


Stem cell research saves lives, this however is just plain old >>>




posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 06:35 AM
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It is amazing how much ignorance exists here on ATS where the motto is literally deny ignorance.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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It is amazing how much ignorance exists here on ATS where the motto is literally deny ignorance.


What is your issue here? Who is it you are labelling as ignorant, and what is your oh-so-in-the-know information that ATS lacks?
I was gonna let it go when you called me ignorant before; (I was going to IGNORE you)
but now you've done it again and aimed it at more than just me. With a second one-line insult that does nothing to contribute to the thread.

So speak up, elPresidente, enlighten us!
Or move along.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Dead or not it's still cannilbalism


Yeah and it's like what person wouldn't be dead if they were being eaten?

Any way you look at it is pretty sick to be eatin' dead babies y'all?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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They should stencil little names on each pill like Jenny or Tommy.

Down the hatch
Yeah I'm sure you'd be cracking jokes if your baby/baby sibling got kidnapped and ground into a pill.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by cripmeister

Originally posted by Char-Lee
Good god! if you have a weak stomach don't look...they make soup out of the whole babies as a sex drive helper! SICK!!!!These people will do anything to increase sex drive!

theseoultimes.com.../ST/db/read.php?idx=7333

must copy paste the end /ST/db/read.php?idx=7333 this is real they cook and eat babies they try not to abort until they are 5 months along it looks like for money.
edit on 6-8-2011 by Char-Lee because: (no reason given)


And I thought the pill story was bad
Of course we can't be sure if this is true or how widespread the practice is if true. One possibility is that there's lots of hatred in South Korea against the Chinese so people make up these stories to try and demonize them.


Wasn't this their own news I cannot look again to see. But called the Seoultimes? I believe this because I watched a documentary about their obsession with aphrodisiacs and the lengths they go. The horror of rare bears with permanent tubes in them collecting bile, they said it is really painful and they live their entire life in a small cage where they cannot move for the bile to be collected, just one of the horrors that was on the TV special. I think we all know Asians (I know generalizing) will eat pretty much anything, the like baby birds cooked in the shell before it hatches for example, dogs, poison animals, insects of all kinds I don't think there is anything abhorrent to them as far as foods it seems that the worse it is the more of a "delicacy" it is considered.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by caladonea
 





Here is a thought...maybe they are encouraging women to get pregnant .;....carry the pregnancy so far...then have an abortion...and they pay the woman for the fetus...then they make their pills....


Yeah, I think Planned Parenthood is behind this.
Get a grip.


Your sarcasm is duly noted.....and I do have a grip.....it is entirely possible the above is happening to make those pills...



Well I don't think it is.
Because of this part.




encouraging women to get pregnant



Women won't do this for money.
It is hard enough to find a surrogate.

Show me where this is done and I will take it back.
It would be new and among the lowest of an already rapidly descending staircase of lows for humanity.

Not only do I not believe it - I think it is wrong to make such an accusation without proof of any kind.

I think this is just hyperbole from a right to lifer.

I am not sure I even believe the story.
Who would take the stuff?
Shark fin and rhino horn yes.
Penis from almost anything.... even placenta BUT HUMAN ?
No. Makes one a cannibal, you know?

I do think there are "cannibals" and those who prey on babies.
Real babies. Finished ones.
But I don't think any of them have a shopping network yet.




I believe the article I posted says they pay the women to carry the fetus longer, they want them 5 months or so for soup, I can't look at it again to check...just can't.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by otie1
It cultural differances, not everybody sees eye2eye. Alot of animals eat their young. Arnt people animals too?


One of the probems here is that if humans consume humans in any form it will eventually lead to people being paid (if it has not already) to produce children for slaughter..young tender babies full of all the stuff of youth is what they believe will make them sexualy function like a youth or stay young.

Anyone who says that this would not or could not happen is blind, if it pays enough. People may take young women and hold them use for prostitution and abort a baby every few months until these young woman are no longer viable baby mills. I believe after what i have read this is already the case.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Funny .. no-one has a problem putting a dead mans heart into his body.

The very same people obviously have a problem with someone making pills from human remains.

Besides of that .. If this doesn't smell like an urban legend I don't know what does.


Well at least the dead guy gives permission to use his parts.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by CAELENIUM
This practice is not as shocking as the author is trying to make it sound. The babies are not being bred expecially for such a purpose and are certainly not being eaten alive and anyway the corpses would go to waste if not used in this manner. This is not a new thing. It is Traditional Chinese Medicine TCM to do this to still born offspring and since there are probably huge numbers of abortions in China why waste such a valuable resource ? Valuable in the medicinal sense since such foetus do contain compounds and molecules that bring health benifits. "Telomerase" for example. Telomerase. In the west medicine is doing these things too and it is simply evil to demonise the Chinese. In TCM it is taught that "all food is a medicine". Mineral tablets are simply high quality dirt. Eating mud is good for you. This usage of human foetal material is an example of the more exotic side of medicine. We could and do use foetal material of animals in exactly this manner in manufacturing certain such medications in the west too. It is normal and healthy to do so. In the UK eating the dead was normal prctice and fully lawful until a mere hundred years ago. Eating the stll born would have been normal too. In nature the mother cat will eat not only the placenta material of the new born litter, but will also eat the still born of the litter too. Waste not want not.

AVE RAEGINA CAELINA LA DEUS NOSTRA CAELI LA VERA DEUS


But what if you carry the child to an age where it is alive at birth and if cared for instead of dropped into boiling water would have lived? The baby at this point is probably worth more money and I believe what I have read its true. Aborting a five month old fetus to eat is not the same as eating the dead.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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I read they are having problems with the lack of females in China's population,

I think this is the result when you lose sight of the sanctity of human life, we are all just animals after all attitude.



I used have a hamster when I was 14 yr old, and she always used to eat her babies if you didn't watch her. And I know fish will as well and cats and dogs will eat there offspring under certain conditions, or if there just really hungry. Just about every animal will eat there offspring's/fetuses though under different conditions compared to the other animals.

So ya even the human animal will as well, were just more complicated then the rest of the animals on earth, and so we do it in a more complicated way. But at the end of the day were still animals.

And china is what it is, most countries and people are what they are. So chose you friends wisely because what it is, does not change that much with the passage of time. A lot of times nations and peoples of a nation are like people, and people really do not change that much with the passage of time, sure they become more complicated over time, but the cores usually stay pretty much the same.


More and more people are becoming vegan and vegetarian like my family all of my sisters and husbands, we are changing I think, more and more people are thinking it weird and animistic to suck the tit ..sort of speak ...from another mammals glands.

I saw a discovery program that showed how they use a bacteria to make a steak from scraps, it is nit together by the bacteria and you would never know it had not started as a big fresh steak but little icky old scraps... totally legall in the USA they said and used by almost all stores to reuse old leftovers. More and more you cannot say what proteins they are using and calling it meat or beef or chicken. I think the Human animal has a bigger brain and will learn to choose not to eat just anything because it tastes good or because it may make you live another year or have a bigger wang!



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by otie1
It cultural differances, not everybody sees eye2eye. Alot of animals eat their young. Arnt people animals too?


One of the probems here is that if humans consume humans in any form it will eventually lead to people being paid (if it has not already) to produce children for slaughter..young tender babies full of all the stuff of youth is what they believe will make them sexualy function like a youth or stay young.

Anyone who says that this would not or could not happen is blind, if it pays enough. People may take young women and hold them use for prostitution and abort a baby every few months until these young woman are no longer viable baby mills. I believe after what i have read this is already the case.



Then I am sure this upsets you also which also unfortunately seems already to be the case and these creature are born.
150 human animal hybrids grown in UK labs: Embryos have been produced secretively for the past three,
www.abovetopsecret.com... Not in a state of suspended animation. Again I only speak like that because I do not believe this story or trust the sources. It is similar to those told of Israelis eating babies.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by otie1
It cultural differances, not everybody sees eye2eye. Alot of animals eat their young. Arnt people animals too?


One of the probems here is that if humans consume humans in any form it will eventually lead to people being paid (if it has not already) to produce children for slaughter..young tender babies full of all the stuff of youth is what they believe will make them sexualy function like a youth or stay young.

Anyone who says that this would not or could not happen is blind, if it pays enough. People may take young women and hold them use for prostitution and abort a baby every few months until these young woman are no longer viable baby mills. I believe after what i have read this is already the case.



Then I am sure this upsets you also which also unfortunately seems already to be the case and these creature are born.
150 human animal hybrids grown in UK labs: Embryos have been produced secretively for the past three,
www.abovetopsecret.com... Not in a state of suspended animation. Again I only speak like that because I do not believe this story or trust the sources. It is similar to those told of Israelis eating babies.


Yes it does upset me, I am totally sure they will not care what kind of pain they cause while experiencing the joy of creating!



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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Chinese will harvest bile from black bears for medicinal use, use rhino horns as aphrodisiac, and eat tiger penis bones for virility, etc... This doesn't surprise me.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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It is amazing how much ignorance exists here on ATS where the motto is literally deny ignorance.


What is your issue here? Who is it you are labelling as ignorant, and what is your oh-so-in-the-know information that ATS lacks?
I was gonna let it go when you called me ignorant before; (I was going to IGNORE you)
but now you've done it again and aimed it at more than just me. With a second one-line insult that does nothing to contribute to the thread.

So speak up, elPresidente, enlighten us!
Or move along.


Your idea of ethics is defined entirely by your upbringing, you say its unnatural because you've been raised to think that way. Arguing ethics will last forever because no one is wrong, and everyone is correct, thats the entire basis of the mighty 'opinion'. Just like how a random kid born in the conservative south might grow up hating blacks and gays but one raised in a liberal environment might do the opposite, who is wrong or right in their perspective environments?

Look at how almost every poster here jumps up in a frenzy based on this delusional sense that women are desperately getting abortions only to sell their baby to be ground up for pill consumption.

If you read the articles, all of this is supposed and suspected, no facts have been revealed yet and at the most, the 'reporters' claim that when the hospital learns of a stillborn or aborted baby, they'll notify the medicine company only with a mother's consent.

So what is the difference between this and giving her child away to be a cadaver or having it's remains harvested for other use? Does a mother not have rights to her baby?

So many ATS posters are always too quick to jump the gun on sensationalized stories but rarely ever read the actual sources of information and end up formulating some fanatical story based on their view of the world.

This was one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on ATS. What constitutes as a sick society? by these measures, every society is sick because they do something that is wrong in a subjective manner.


I just think the Chinese are a sick society. I don't care how long they've been around..........
some things are just WRONG.

And now, they freaking OWN the US. Gawds above..........


Society tells us what is right and wrong, society tells us cannibalism is wrong but tells us adult porn is ok, smoking cigarettes is ok, and eating meat is ok no matter what conditions are for the animal as long as our bellies are full. Look at the earth and how things cycle, a dead human body is not something to be revered and idolized forever, everything comes back full circle. We don't know if the mothers are purposely aborting their children for a small payday so what exactly is right and wrong in this situation?



edit on 7-8-2011 by eLPresidente because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 04:17 AM
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We don't know if the mothers are purposely aborting their children for a small payday so what exactly is right and wrong in this situation?

Did you read the articles?
They are purposely aborting their children, and waiting until the babies are old enough that they COULD survive with quality care. You don't think it's wrong that people are breeding people to be food? So they can have better sex? And breed more people?

Fine, call me ignorant. I'd rather be labeled an empathetic, conscientous and ignorant objecter to cannibalism than a twisted sociopath who condones eating babies.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 04:20 AM
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I know short posts are encouraged but... WTF??? If true this is beyond disgraceful.

Thanks for posting and bringing everyones attention to this gross weirdness.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by TechVampyre
doesn't this violate human rights?


Which is why I think this is a phony story, because no country in their right mind would grind up babies and sell them in pill form.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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We don't know if the mothers are purposely aborting their children for a small payday so what exactly is right and wrong in this situation?

Did you read the articles?
They are purposely aborting their children, and waiting until the babies are old enough that they COULD survive with quality care. You don't think it's wrong that people are breeding people to be food? So they can have better sex? And breed more people?

Fine, call me ignorant. I'd rather be labeled an empathetic, conscientous and ignorant objecter to cannibalism than a twisted sociopath who condones eating babies.


Wow, you are spinning this story to the max. No where does it state that the mothers are aborting their babies on purpose to sell them. Read the article again and again and again until you understand it as you clearly do not. I even laid it out for you in my last post and you continue to spew lies to back your original claims.

You called an entire Chinese society/culture sick based on a practice you don't even understand because of facts that are unclear to even yourself. If you even bothered to do any research on a society that you've already decided was 'sick' you would know that unprotected sex is very 'popular' in China as men feel that the women is responsible and can get abortions as a form of birth control, there isn't a mad frenzy in China for women to get pregnant, abort the baby and get paid before the weekend so they can party and hope some random guys knock them up.

This is why you are ignorant (as I called you out already), so much that you can't even open your eyes to the lies that you've created for yourself.




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