The Illusion of The Hierarchical Power Structures

We are all the same. We have extremely lost ourselves and forgotten this by MATERIALISM. In essence, behind all this self-proclaimed importance, we are all nature.

Everyone serves a unique purpose in life and should be honored and respected for this reason in an equal manner to anyone else.

This is the natural order of things. It is the society of beings that God intended. We humans have just highly adulterated our existence with a bunch of made up crap. Money isn't real. It's just an idea. Money is literally a piece of paper made from a tree with an assigned value to it.

People play into this materialistic game and they lose themselves in the imaginary splendor of it. In doing so, we perpetuate the idea of a caste system. It is nothing more than an idea. Power is a human invention. We categorize people in such a way that we give them a category to fall into other than the only one true category that is human being. Materialism is an unnatural imbalance to natural creation. By its nature, it propagates divisions of all sorts. The value assigned to the money depends on an economic system such as capitalism that forces everyone to exploit others for the benefit of themselves to be successful within the system. Thereby creating a upper and lower class. Rich and poor. Now, due to materialism, instead of the needs of others being met equally and everyone having everything that they need, people go hungry while other people sit at the top with their greedy personalities and drive 7 luxury cars.

Every single negative circumstance anyone here has ever encountered since the beginning of human history is a direct product of nothing more and nothing less that MATERIALISM

By materialism, we make unbalanced power systems possible.

While I don't disagree materialism is the cause of much of what you describe it is most certainly natural. At least if you think nature is natural. Look to any social, pack, or herd creature.

I dare you just look at how they are organized. There is usually a boss, a favored group that gets dibs on the food, and the weak that get last dibs on food or simply shunned and allowed to starve or be bait for predators.

We use materialism as our tool over brute force because we are civilized and appreciate those who have gained the ability to acquire excess assuming they must be strong.

It is nature to allow the strong of your species to thrive.


You just don't like it, that doesn't make it unnatural.

Alot of people have experienced cancer which has nothing to do with materialism.

We can start with that for discussion and get to the rest of the errors in your post later.

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I feel ya mean.

Think about this; I feel the world is in an ideological binary split. The east and the west, communism and capitalism.

I'm sure you are aware of the father of communism (or socialism, if you honestly think any socialism in this world isn't basically communism) was Karl Marx. He was a materialist, not having any Ideological concern with spiritual being. Capitalism, while seemingly material, is actually a much more spiritual society than you may believe. Capitalism, and it's synonymous principles of physical and intellectual freedom and liberty, constructed of individuals' goals, ambitions, and dreams. Each of these info-structures are prone to their own issues as we have witnessed. Our government has become corrupt with people who seized opportunity long ago, and monopolized it so that we will never be able to match them. The communists didn't even have to work to oppress, it being a "traditional" tend in communism to have a dictator. DO you see the similarities in the two?

Control freaks, parasites, basically the manipulative and evil scum of the earth.

How can we defeat this enemy? I do not know, but the founding fathers came damn close, and I think we can give it another try.

Originally posted by Jinglelord
While I don't disagree materialism is the cause of much of what you describe it is most certainly natural. At least if you think nature is natural. Look to any social, pack, or herd creature.

I dare you just look at how they are organized. There is usually a boss, a favored group that gets dibs on the food, and the weak that get last dibs on food or simply shunned and allowed to starve or be bait for predators.

We use materialism as our tool over brute force because we are civilized and appreciate those who have gained the ability to acquire excess assuming they must be strong.

It is nature to allow the strong of your species to thrive.


You just don't like it, that doesn't make it unnatural.

Materialism is a thought process created by a type of being that takes what is natural and changes it to something else that fits their needs. If it didn't occur in nature by natural means and is a secondary creation, then I am calling it unnatural. Materialism is the thought process that arises from these secondary creations.

Originally posted by kro32
Alot of people have experienced cancer which has nothing to do with materialism.

We can start with that for discussion and get to the rest of the errors in your post later.

What discussion? Do you think I'm stupid enough to actually believe that cancer is caused by materialism. Sorry if I didn't go into depth enough for you, I guess I should have made clear that what I meant by 'negative circumstance' was 'unnatural negative circumstance'. Cancer is a natural negative circumstance and if it happens, it is acceptable because it is within the natural blueprint to occur. The emotion 'greed' is an unnatural negative circumstance because it is derived from materialism.

Originally posted by EmVeeFF
reply to post by smithjustinb

 

I feel ya mean.

Think about this; I feel the world is in an ideological binary split. The east and the west, communism and capitalism.

I'm sure you are aware of the father of communism (or socialism, if you honestly think any socialism in this world isn't basically communism) was Karl Marx. He was a materialist, not having any Ideological concern with spiritual being. Capitalism, while seemingly material, is actually a much more spiritual society than you may believe. Capitalism, and it's synonymous principles of physical and intellectual freedom and liberty, constructed of individuals' goals, ambitions, and dreams. Each of these info-structures are prone to their own issues as we have witnessed. Our government has become corrupt with people who seized opportunity long ago, and monopolized it so that we will never be able to match them. The communists didn't even have to work to oppress, it being a "traditional" tend in communism to have a dictator. DO you see the similarities in the two?

Control freaks, parasites, basically the manipulative and evil scum of the earth.

How can we defeat this enemy? I do not know, but the founding fathers came damn close, and I think we can give it another try.

To defeat the enemy, find your self. Don't succumb to materialistic ways and buy in to the consumer trends. Instead, offer the world a new trend, to use our technology for the good of all.

Capitalism is spiritual in the way that it respects freedom moreso than communism. But it is spiritually lacking in the way that it supports materialism and the exploitation of the poor in favor of the rich.

So you're telling me, my broke arse/ass is the same as a rich man ?
Yeah.....okay.

Originally posted by Heartisblack
So you're telling me, my broke arse/ass is the same as a rich man ?
Yeah.....okay.

edit on 5-8-2011 by Heartisblack because: (no reason given)

In essence.

Don't miss the bigger picture here.

Materialism blinds people and makes them forget their true selves. Did you read the link? The link is important to establish context in this post.

Humans are a natural creation. Technology is a human secondary creation. Natural creations follow a highly intelligent, orderly, ecologically supportive blueprint. Human creations generally only benefit humans and are by definition, a selfish creation. So when you acquire one of these flawed creations and assign a value to it, what do you really have? When someone has more of these pathetic filthy rags he calls wealth than you do, how much better of a human is he really? He's not better than you, he just has more stuff. The stuff that really isn't worth anything. The only thing worth anything in this life is love.

Originally posted by Jinglelord
While I don't disagree materialism is the cause of much of what you describe it is most certainly natural. At least if you think nature is natural. Look to any social, pack, or herd creature.

I dare you just look at how they are organized. There is usually a boss, a favored group that gets dibs on the food, and the weak that get last dibs on food or simply shunned and allowed to starve or be bait for predators.

We use materialism as our tool over brute force because we are civilized and appreciate those who have gained the ability to acquire excess assuming they must be strong.

It is nature to allow the strong of your species to thrive.


You just don't like it, that doesn't make it unnatural.

Yes it is natural, for a beast. What is Not natural is for a human to behave as an animal. We are supposed to be the thinking species here, the ones with brains. A wolf does not have the ability to assess how much available resources are within their grasp. So it, the stronger ones, will take out of necessity not knowing if there will be another meal soon enough. A human being knows damn well that there is enough to go around.

And I can tell you for sure that my conscience would not allow me to drive 7 luxery cars or have millions of dollars just sitting around while people starve and die over the stupidest reasons like not having a mosquito net when you sleep, or clean water to stave off infection. I guess that's why ill never be rich, I give away a lot of what I have, but I always get by just fine. I'm not saying I'm a saint or anything but its just the truth that I give a lot away to friends and strangers alike. Some strangers who become friends. I never thought of it that way but helping others is also a social activity when you meet new people and make lifelong friends with some of them. Anyway, I guess I'm just as happy with 1/2 or 1/4 of the toys and nights out that normal people require.

I shall let Kirk Douglas speak for me on this one,

"When you become a star, you don't change - everyone else does."

It's all perception, nothing exists intrinsically