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Originally posted by goldentorch
reply to post by Bleeeeep
Will have to short and sweet here.
I do not believe in God. Period. I do not have faith in there being no God, there is no evidence for it therefore it does not exist and the onus of proof is upon those making the claim.
Originally posted by goldentorch
reply to post by Bleeeeep
Will have to short and sweet here.
I do not believe in God. Period. I do not have faith in there being no God, there is no evidence for it therefore it does not exist and the onus of proof is upon those making the claim.
Originally posted by MitchL61
I prayed to God and asked for confirmation, which I received through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Originally posted by MitchL61
reply to post by TupacShakur
If you were born in Afghanistan, Somalia, China, Vietnam, or Thailand, would you have investigated the religion that you are currently a part of, or would you investigate the religion that your family and peers are a part of and instilled into you from birth?
As it turns out, I was raised Baptist. I have a brother who is a Pastor of a baptist church. I had questions about the Bible that were not satisfied by the churches teachings, so I investigated other denominations, churches, and Holy Writ. Once I found the teachings that answered the questions I had in my own mind, I prayed to God and asked for confirmation, which I received through the power of the Holy Spirit. My friend, I do not expect you to take my word for it, the only advise I have for you, is to do your own investigating, and not take anyone's word for it, including those claiming to have proven their theories through science.edit on 06/03/2011 by MitchL61 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by MitchL61
Well what proof is there of any god to exist, the only thing is the religious texts like the bible or the koran, but these are all made by men, which by your own reasoning, are lying.
On the other hand, there are alot of evidence for global warming, for example the north pole ice caps which are now mostly sea water, where there previously was ice. Now this is tangible proof.
So i choose to believe in evidence, nothing else, and from there i base my belief or opinion.
This is also called science.
So basically what you're saying is even though there are many parts of the Bible that are incredibly unrealistic and even you know that they're BS, you still believe in it because there are some good morals? The same could be said for any fiction book.
I believe God has caused many books to be written. I don't buy into many of the stories in the Old Testament either. I hesitate to tell you all that I do believe because I don't think you will take it seriously and actually pray sincerely to know if it true or not. Jesus said "..don;t cast your pearls before swine, lest they turn again and rend you". I love you, and I believe you are my brother/sister. I would never tell you that I received a witness of the Holy Spirit if it were not true. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, in my mind, is an unpardonable sin.
Originally posted by Watts
Actually even atheism boils down to faith. They're putting all their eggs in the basket that says "there is no god therefore I can do whatever I want because I will never have to pay for any wrong doings or face any punishment for how I lived my life.".. so really its all faith.
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
You sir, have faith there is no god. No proof is not proof of nonexistence.
Saying you don't believe there is a god, without proof of gods nonexistence, is the same as saying you have faith that there is no god.
Furthermore, if one is to say there is definitely no god then that gives them the same "onus of proof" as those who say there is definitely a god.
The "Nones" (no stated religious
preference, atheist, or agnostic)
continue to grow, though at a much
slower pace than in the 1990s, from
8.2% in 1990, to 14.1% in 2001, to
15.0% in 2008.
Originally posted by Glass
Belief that there is no god [ex: "God absolutely does not exist"] is a belief that requires faith that there is no spiritual higher power or creative force in the universe. People who fall into this category are Gnostic Atheists, and are just as silly as any Theist because you cannot know for sure whether a god really exists or not. Any proof that you supply that cannot be reliably tested may simply be a delusion.edit on 5-8-2011 by Glass because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by Glass
Faith is the belief in something that has absolutely no proof or evidence backing it.
Originally posted by Glass
You cannot prove that god doesn't exist any more than you can prove he does.
Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
Originally posted by Glass
You cannot prove that god doesn't exist any more than you can prove he does.
One can prove that a god doesn't exist depending on the definition of the god. Some gods would be impossible to disprove since their believers have defined them into unfalsifiability (e.g., "outside of space and time"). Other, more worldly gods with specific attributes can be proven to be non-existent.