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Most of the world is bankrupt... so where is all the money?

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by loves a conspiricy

Originally posted by JustBreathe11
The Annunaki took it back to their home land in a form of GOLD


Haha yea 165,000 tons of gold was worth waiting millions of years for..........i assume this is a sarcastic reply??

Gold is everywhere in the universe, no need for us to mine it


Good point, even so you'd think the Annunaki would have developed robots or something along those lines to mind it anyway? Even if it wasn't abundant, if they were that powerful they could have swoopt in, got what they came for and buggered off!
In a manner of millions of years of course XD Plenty of time!

Jamie.




posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
You dont understand the monetary system......there is no money, just bits of worthless paper.

Debts are owed to banking cartels.....they are like the mafia, but more powerful than governments

I believe there is a Video on it by Zeitgeist right here on ATS


Money is made out of thin air by the Banks. 1 Billion is turned into 10 Billion


The hard currency is limited but majority of the funds are electronic numbers transferred as IOU's when the Treasurey Notes are purchased by Foreign Government(s) from the FEDS.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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I think all the money goes to our troops, all of the new agencies that were created after 911, like Homeland Security, and all of the States are in the Red because of all of the security issues they're trying to upgrade their state to.

I really think they have funneled all of the worlds monies to build their underground cities. That's why so much of our money disappeared from that huge first payout.

Our troops are in so many countries now, if we'd bring back half of them it would help. But you don't think they're going to do that now do ya?



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:23 AM
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How do we Free ourselves ?

The Founders of the United States understood very well how Central Banking enslaves the people, that is why in the Constitution of the United States it is laid out very plainly how and what the Treasury of the United States responsibility was.

The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was, and still is Treason.

To Free the Nation we must remove the Central Bank from the face of the earth, default on the debt owed to the Central Bank and force the Treasury to do it’s job.

This will never happen, our Government is in the pocket of the Central Bank and they would rather betray their countrymen than betray the Central Bank. Treason.

So, what can everyday Joes do ?

NON COMPLIANCE !

Structure your life so that you have the ability ,little by little, to remove your own bonds.

Reduce and over time remove Federal taxation from your life, including Social Security.

Barter your labor, your assets for the goods you need an or start supplying the goods you need yourself.

Support competing currencies.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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100% agree with your post!

You have it pretty much there!.........




But....What about the assets(homes) we gather through our 45year working/slave lifes?............ the stuff we exchange for debt!

Is this not the true source of wealth for our bankers??

Bricks and motar are not digits on a screen from which a bank operates its system!..........So no bank should ever have the power to turn you out of your home and claim it as theirs!!!....But They Do!!!
imo anyway




With experts predicting repossessions will rise to 45,000 next year


Repossessions hotspots in uk

This happens in every single country in the world!

The USA is about 250000 i gather !!

Foreclosure Filings in U.S. May Jump 20% From Record 2010 as Crisis Peaks
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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what do you mean where is the money.

its with the people who own the world and have for a long time.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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There is more money tied up in the derivatives markets than what there is in the rest of the world. Basically this is the worlds biggest casino and had a lot to do with the global financial collapse. From some report, the Rothschild's Family Investments is the richest in the world, but you will never see it on the published rich lists as most of it hidden in trust, foundations and other accounting tricks. They do have a big part to play in the global banking system and continue to receive massive profits from the interest payments.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Governments around the world are paying Interest Payments on money they borrowed long ago.

In essence all their money now is going to pay off debt, from money that was used to make turds long ago.

We're paying for old turds.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Isn't worshipping oil & gold the modern plan.
Why is everyone worried about currency anyway?
I thought liking God was unfashionable these days.
If the US currency isn't wrecked how can it be replaced?

?

David Grouchy





When the dust settles
and the crisis is over
the New World Order will
be able to point to that phrase
and say "let's never do that again."

Remember the reason things happen is usually
completely changed by the time it is written in the history books.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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15 Trillion is probably invested in a space fleet that we know nothing of. There is also probably a base on the moon and a base on mars. Just a wild guess.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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All the money is going to fund Al Qaeda,
...and Obama's birfday bash.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
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I think a lot of it went to plastic products and electronics and consumer goods that are sitting in the dump now.
There is a floating barge of garbage the size of TEXAS in the Pacific.
There's where the money is.

All Hail Capitalism.
A beautiful thing.
Maybe we can float on that barge of garbage?


Or we could do this with it:
houses made from garbage

Some of them are really nice too, and more people likely would be able to be in a home...oh the utter shocking concept.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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Most of the world is bankrupt... so where is all the money?

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We use money when we exchange it for goods or services. The money is passed from you to another. And then through the process of further exchange of goods and services, the money is passed and circulated along.

Example:- you buy a glass of lemonade 50cts and pay the kid 50cts. The kid recieves this 50cts and buys a liqourice bar from a shopkeeper,paying him your 50cts. The shopkeeper saves the 50cts in the bank. Then bank takes that 50cts and lend it out to a kid who wants to start a lemonade stand, with the kid agreeing to pay 5cts a year on interest to the bank. The chain of circulation continues on.

But when someone along the chain decides to keep that 50cts hidden under his bed, many others will not get that 50cts and will suffer.

Imagine if you were to hide $1000 under your bed, for fear fo putting it in the bank cos the bank might run away or go bankrupt. It's ok. No harm done. But IF 6 billion earthlings - man, women and child were to do like you and hide just $1000 at home, that would be $6 TRILLION dollars UNCIRCULATED and thus - missing from the economy.

Therefore, the gov/central bank responsible for the economic flow, will have to print more money to replace those that are hidden in order that others may not suffer. It will result a drop in the value of that original dollar, as now there are more dollars in circulation than the actual worth of backing for that dollar.

This is just a very simple and basic answer to your question, straight and sharp, to the point than, I persumed for you, a more scholarly convoluted one that will only make you more confused .



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Next, you might wonder in these times, whats with the fuss over the role of the Federal Reserve Bank?

If I were to show you its history, it will be another convoluted piece of political and economic shennigins that will only leave you none the wiser, thus, in the tradition and purpose of ATS, I will use a more simpler explanation, a basic comprehension for you to start the quest onto what's FED is all about.

Imagine a country called Amerigo-a democratic republic with a constitution similar to US, and landmass with its capital and mineral resource the same as the real USA.

Amerigo has a small tax revenue base in its early years as an agarian society. Its social expenditure is little, for each man is left to take care of himself and his family. The small govt does not intrude in anyway, and everyone lived peacefully. But as time went on, the population boomed, and so did social expenditure in eduction, infrastructure, health, defense,etc inorder to meet the needs of the growing population.

It raised its taxes so to meet those needs, and tapped onto the young educated generation to leap from agarian to technology advanced industrialized society. But it was not enough, as the population grew, for there was still very much room to grow with its land and mineral resources, with the potential to be a rich nation.

Thus, the legislative got together a few super rich bankers and investors whom saw the potential of better returns with their hoarded up money by loaning it to the gov to reach its potential. Together, the form a bank purely to offer such loans and called it the Federal Reserve bank of Amerigo. The loan was in the form of pieces of paper called treasury notes, guaranteed by the govt to pay back at a certain time with interest.

With such loans, Amerigo gov used the funds to enlarge the govt for oversight duties, expanded education, created infrastructure for businesses to thrive and grew its defense to protect the nation. For decades it worked as the tax revenue earned by the gov could pay back the loan + interest on yearly basis. Besideds those original investors that offer the loans through 'buying' the treasury notes, other nations and investors saw the potential of Amerigo, decided to want in on a piece of the action and bought it, in effect, offering much more than the gov actually needed.

Unfortunately, gov changed every 5 years. Some were financially responsible not to overspend, but some did such as military adventure or ambitious underthoughtout economic policies and as a result, had difficulty servicing the loan when the annual payments were due.

The original holders of the treasury notes got worried and decided not to 'buy'/loan anymore, but demanded the gov to cut social expenditure to pay the loan which will be suicidal for the nation.

WIth the backers hoarding up their wealth, the Fed Reserve had no choice but to print more treasury notes and seek for OTHER buyers of such notes whom can see the potential of Amerigo's human capital and total resources, which had not dried up unlike other smaller nations.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Explanation: S&F! Note Disclaimer: OL is NOT a financial expert in any way shape and or fashion. Take this advice and or info at your own risk, because its just of the top of my head.

The world financial markets crashed during late (sept) 2008 under President G. W. Bush's oversight/watch.

Then the new POTUS B. Obama bailed out the banks! Thats where the stimulus package for the USA went. In Australia it went to the pensioners [1400$ thanks Mr Rudd! BTW Mz Gillard ... what have you done for me lately?
But I digress
] and to actual infrastructure [although OL is worried that like 1980's Japan that Oz is just concreting the bottoms of rivers so that people have jobs and looks like stuff is happening!

And ultimately that IS what this is all about! Its clearly not an issue of currency amounts ... ITS ABOUT CURRENCY FLOWS and it hasn't flowed out from the banks at all as they tightened their lending belts ... which is why everybody [except the banks shareholders .. wait 1min and I'll get to them
] is feeling that HUGE economic pinch right now.

I believe that NOT ALL OF IT is being deliberately held back and sometimes money does take a while to as President Reagan said "Trickle Down Economics" is just that .. its a trickle.. not a gushing flowing spring of refreshing vital AND PIVOTAL waters, but its quite clear that a massive portion of the bailout money just went into the vaults and when thesituation had stabilized due to what.. oh yeah there being actual you can count on it MONEY in the banks and so the banks could continue to loan and borrow from each other but in locking up that financial liquid lubrication and then when they were all honky dory they paid those new found profits as dividends to their shareholders ... who obviously have accounts with those banking institutions for ease of doing business [logistics is the explicit reason for supply and demand scam! ] so the money changed accounts but physically went NOWHERE and its all probably still there!

So The USA gov saved those financial institutions that were to big to fail and those financial institutions have been unfairly ...

1] not spreading that good greenbacked stuff around because they are sitting on what??? Oh yes .. the HONEY POT! No wonder they are rolling in it.. They NEVER let it get away from them![i.e Loans are cheap for them at 1% or there abouts fedresv interest rate! And yet they aren't loaning to the little guys any more ..because they ARE BANKING ON YOUR FEARS! And in this current economy when loans are cheap and available for the big and the rich guys in small numbers and are unavailable and or VERY EXPENSIVE [either in admin run around and take their time credit checks etc or in unaffordable interest rates] for the middlesized and middleclass workers who ACTUALLY DO DRIVE THE ECONOMY! In the mean time those fat rich cats are buying up all the weakend stock at bargain basement prices!

2] Paying those exact same funds into their shareholders accounts which doesn't move the actual cash anywhere and if that HARD COLD CASH doesn't move then its doesn't create the required flow of money AROUND the system!

The engine is running too hot and for all the finacial lubrication the USA has done.. there is obviously a huge leak and or BLOCKAGE and this is resulting in the economy stalling and losing MOMENTUM [of the cash flow ie its slowing down.. getting gunked and or dried up... and the USA engine is going to seize up and or blow a valve head gasket!

Personal Disclosure: Follow the money OK ... oh never mind .. it never went ANYWHERE! They make it, They break it, They hold on to it and by doing so they hold the USA and the rest of the world to ransom. Its all FAKE!

Its called FORCED SCARCITY!



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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the reason all is messed up the interest rates are too low so no lending
once the banks crash the country the rates will skyrocket and we will be back to jimmie carter
13 percent home loans will be the norm
all planned and put in place by the too big to fail banks
the bankers and lawyers make the laws to give them all the rights and nothing for joe citizen
jobs are non-existent wages falling americans being throttled to push us to give more power to the very people who created such a mess in the first place
my opinion



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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All the worlds debt is owed to one entity and one entity alone. The Rothschild's, and their net worth of $500 trillion

If China only owns $1.1-1.8 trillion of us debt and they hold the most of it, yet the US debt is $14.5 trillion, 500 trillion is enough to buy the US and basically the world.

The fed is a Rothschild's bank after all.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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The way the monetary system works today you can not put any money into the economy without garnering more debt than the money that enters the economy. All our money is based on debt exchanged between two entities that have nothing to begin with. It's all a fraud. As long as there is money there will be debt. Money is the only thing that creates debt, which is an abhorrent concept to nature, it doesn't exist. Negative numbers are not real, they are a contrivance used to enforce slavery. Slavery used to be enforced with chains and beatings, now it's enforced with Walmart and dollars.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Good post! Although, aliens prolly don't use money, and if they did, they wouldn't need our worthless paper.

Money isn't real. We made it up, just like unicorns and goblins.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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I didn't read through the other replies, because i want to keep this short.

the money is mostly owed to banks, hedgefonds... whoever bought the government bonds in the first place.
the associated wealth is either consumed or invested. If the money was spent for consumption, well then it's gone - it provided a short term stimulus to the economy. if the money was invested, then it still must be somewhere - in infrastructure, currencies, bonds, gold whatever you can think of. currently, tracking longterm capital, it's mostly in safeheavens like gold, japanese yen and swiss francs etc. - that's where the capital waits for better times to come.
this situation created winners and losers, but mostly losers. This may be a of little interest, but for me it was the best thing that has ever happened to my finances.



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