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You'll live just as long if you drink and smoke

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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You'll live just as long if you drink and smoke


www.tgdaily.com

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.I'm gonna light a cigarette, pour myself a beer and feel smug.

The latest research shows that diet, exercise, smoking and drinking have no bearing at all - none - on whether we'll live to be very old.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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Well, you can't get more "alternative breaking" than this considering the very popular idea that 'how' one lives there life may extend their lifespan.

Granted all studies like these bear scrutiny. But few physicians and clinical researchers I know would have ever made an assertion like the headline title 'off the cuff.'

It's not at all a call for hedonism and a libertine lifestyle....


"This study suggests that centenarians may possess additional longevity genes that help to buffer them against the harmful effects of an unhealthy lifestyle."

In fact, the only thing that really does seem to make a difference is turning into a real lard-bucket. Being moderately overweight is fine, but only 4.5 percent of male centenarians were obese, as against 12.1 percent of controls. For women, 9.6 percent of centenarians were obese versus 16.2 percent of controls.

If I'd been the author of this study I'd have been breaking out the whiskey and cigars at this point, but these guys seem a bit suspicious of their findings.

"Although this study demonstrates that centenarians can be obese, smoke and avoid exercise, those lifestyle habits are not good choices for most of us who do not have a family history of longevity," says a stern Dr Barzilai.


What do you think?

www.tgdaily.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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"Although this study demonstrates that centenarians can be obese, smoke and avoid exercise, those lifestyle habits are not good choices for most of us who do not have a family history of longevity," says a stern Dr Barzilai.

Where in the study is the data to support this "opinion". This part of it is sheer propaganda

TIRED OF CONTROL FREAKS



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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the problem with most of these studies is

whos funding them



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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hi
i always persuaded myself that
no matter what i do
my genetics define wen i shall die
thats an alcoholics excuse lol



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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It's also a case of what you smoke and drink..

I certainly wish I could get plain tobacco here in Australia, rather than the commercial crap that our Government demands is full of dangerous additives..



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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Unfortunately, and in stereotypical MSM-style, they author fails to link the actual reported study. The Principle Investigator seems to have been Dr Nir Barzilai at New York's Yeshiva University.

Perhaps you can have better luck than I at finding the research itself.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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My friend's grandmother used to drink a bottle of gin a day,and chain smoked her way into her 103rdyear before she died.
Mind you,she was madder than a pig on '___'.

I suppose its all about how predisposed we are to certain diseases.
If we don't have a particular genetic trait,we don't get certain diseases whatever we do in life.

Interesting article.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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My father died at the age of 62 from lung cancer, and I'm pretty sure he would have lived to be much older had he not smoked all his adult life.


Not smoking may not extend your life, but it can certainly shorten it.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Well I notice your not mentioning the 100's of reports that have proven how alcohol or smoking can cause problems to shorten your life span or does this one study invalidate all of those in your opinion?



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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They were only studying a genetically similar group of people who actually managed to live until OVER 95 years old.

They didn't study the lifestyles of the people who died.

They said it's all in the genes.

So if you don't have a family history of living to over 95 (my grandparents died aged between 60 and 85), then this study is irrelevant to you.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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I found it odd recently that my girlfriends dr. Said it would be better if she lost a few pounds than if she quit smoking. She initially went in for a check up and some smoking secessation help. He said, at the most smoking will effect your life expectancy five years. But clogged arteries could cause premature heart attacks and strokes rather suddenly, causing premature death. And that the should be a far greater concern for the general population.

Considering it is not like she is obese, maybe could loose 10 lbs. We just looked at each other a little shocked at the words that were coming out of his mouth.Not only at what he said, but how he said it. He rather scoffed at the worry she had about smoking, and quitting smoking.

And honestly we didn't believe him. We thought the insurance didn't want to pay for the pills or something. I guess he had a valid point.

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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What is a centenarian? Im sure I get the gist, and I will google it


The women on my moms side live to be pretty old, its the men yhat die young, and they have mostley girl.
Not sure about the father, but they seem to get killed, or kill their wife then theirself. Hope thats not hereditary! And they have mostley boys. I'm honestly the 3rd female I know of in that family.

Guess i'll take my chances on moms genes, and get a bottle this weekend! Hell, a burst brain annurism couldn't kill my mom (thank goodness)



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks
 


Unfortunately, and in stereotypical MSM-style, they author fails to link the actual reported study. The Principle Investigator seems to have been Dr Nir Barzilai at New York's Yeshiva University.

Perhaps you can have better luck than I at finding the research itself.



Very good point....I would like to see the actual reported study myself....this study makes for a good news paper article....but I need more information.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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I think genetics dictate whether or not you get certain diseases or live longer. I live in the deep south and I know very many people who have died in their late 80's and 90's. Smoked like fiends, drank like fish and ate deep fried foods every day. Very seldom ever got sick, but worked till the day they died or could no longer. I have also known young people in their 20'-40's with cancers and heart attacks. And there are people that eat right, don't smoke or drink, etc.

Again, I truly believe it is genetic and also state of mind and staying active.


 
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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I won't buy the smoking bit. I've seen and held the actual hearts and lungs of dead chronic smokers.

Alcohol in moderation no big deal. My grandma swore to the benefits of her daily 5pm martini. If you overdue it, binge drink or become an alcoholic your liver will end being pickled and you may just die from a drunk related accident of one sort or another. Drunken idiots die in some very strange ways
I guess that is one vote in favor of cigarettes. They don't impair your physical and mental abilities in the way that excessive alcohol does.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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Damn you mean the 'scientific hysteria er sorry I mean consensus' of the last 50 yrs has been completely wrong (again)

Just like - DDT, ozone destroying chemicals, the spotted owl fiasco, GW scam. multiculturalenrichment and many many more.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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I firmly believe it's all in the genes.

I firmly believe in moderation.

Too much alchohol kills
Too much drugs kills
Too much tobacco kills.

It's all about how YOUR body's genes react to these.

My family has been a huge group of smokers and drinkers and the elders live into their 90's.

I also believe that the SUN does NOT cause skin cancer. You either have the cancer gene or not.

It's all about the DNA.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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that's what i always knew.

first of all, you don't come with a garentee when you are born.

star and flag just because.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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I think that stress is the only true killer. As long as I have my cigarettes beleive me I will live longer cause they ease my stress. My family all died in their 80's and some did smoke. None died of cancer, almost all died of heart disease and high blood pressure, guess what causes that? STRESS causes that. So I have adopted a IDGAF attitude, if the cards fall, then I just pick em up no use stressing over it. Have I done my body good? YES I have an athletic range for Blood pressure & low cholesterol been smoking some 27 years and have not got one minute itty bitty black spot on my lungs when I last got an xray about 1 yr ago.
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