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Originally posted by jdub297
Multi-agency armed raid hits Rawesome Foods, Healthy Family Farms for selling raw milk and cheese
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This is a NaturalNews exclusive breaking new report. Please credit NaturalNews.com. A multi-agency SWAT-style armed raid was conducted this morning by helmet-wearing, gun-carrying enforcement agents from the LA County Sheriff's Office, the FDA, the Dept. of Agriculture and the CDC
Law enforcement demanded that all customers (members) of the store vacate the premises, then they demanded to know how much cash James had at the store.
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Originally posted by jdub297
Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by Tholidor
You are not even reading are you?
There's an element of wishful thinking to many food mythologies, but—unlike the haloed status of raw milk—most don't lead directly to risky behavior or public health concerns or physicians complaining that increased consumption of "nature's perfect food" has led to a recent doubling in the number of milk-borne disease outbreaks.edit on 4-8-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Blaming an unwise end user is more justified than a potentially harmful product. People should rely upon their common sense a little more often, rather than hoping some gov't reg or authority will protect them from their own foolishness.
How do you explain 36 million pounds of tainted turkey, all bearing the Cargill QC approval code and the USDA "seal of approval?" Explain to the dead, dying and sick how gov't intrusion and safety regs have helped them, instead of proper care, handling and preparation of food.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by newcovenant
What they were raided for and charged with has nothing to do with their product.
They were raided for selling to "unsuspecting" non-members.
No they were not.
They were raided for selling from a truck to a fully-informed law enforcement officer/investigator who knew exactly what he was buying, and what the risks were in consuming the products.
This was a regulatory offense that should be punishable by a fine or injuction, not arrest and imprisonment.
It has everything to do with their product.
You are so blinded by your bias as to completely miss the fact
The sale of one mislabeled package of cheese? And did they actually sell to nonmembers? GIven they were already under scrutiny once, I don't think they'd be so lax about selling outside a contract.
It's Global Monopoly and damn the stupid humans.
...The only hope is if the Libertarians and Lefties work together against Global Corporate rule.
Hopefully by now people have mentioned that the premise of this thread is not true?
That company has been operating without any licenses, permits or inspections since 2007. They have had many warnings and will not stop. ....
Originally posted by eLPresidente
Government can't do jack squat to prevent everybody from eating what they want to eat, these are fear tactics and they're not winning, they're pissing off the people even more.
They could've actually tested the milk and if it came out bad, they have all the right to dump it. Why dump good milk?
Raw milk is actually safe to consume if the source is well contained (grounds and cattle). They'll never stop me from consuming raw milk.
The Fight for Food Freedom
Growing numbers of people in this country are obtaining the foods of their choice through private contractual arrangements such as buyers' club agreements and herdshare contracts.
FDA's position is that the agency can interfere with these agreements because, in FDA's view, there is no fundamental right to enter into a private contract to obtain the foods of choice from the source of choice.
As for the agency's contention that there is no fundamental right to obtain any food, including raw milk, here is what the 'substantive due process' clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides: no person shall "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
Obtaining the foods of your choice is so basic to life, liberty and property that it is inconceivable that the 'right of food choice' would not be protected under the Constitution but FDA is saying "No".
FDA's Views on Freedom of Choice
Here are some of FDA's views expressed in its response on 'freedom of food choice' in general and on the right to obtain and consume raw milk in particular:
1. "Plaintiffs' assertion of a new 'fundamental right' to produce, obtain, and consume unpasteurized milk lacks any support in law." (???)
2. "It is within HHS's authority . . . to institute an intrastate ban [on unpasteurized milk] as well."
3. "Plaintiffs' assertion of a new 'fundamental right' under substantive due process to produce, obtain, and consume unpasteurized milk lacks any support in law."
4. "There is no absolute right to consume or feed children any particular food."
5. "There is no 'deeply rooted' historical tradition of unfettered access to foods of all kinds."
6. "Plaintiffs' assertion of a 'fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families' is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish."
FDA's brief goes on to state that "even if such a right did exist,
it would not render FDA's regulations unconstitutional because
prohibiting the interstate sale and distribution of unpasteurized milk
promotes bodily and physical health."
"There is no fundamental right to freedom of contract."
Originally posted by neonitus
reply to post by eXia7
they did, though its much safer to drink pasteurised milk. you want to drink raw milk, go ahead
Actually they can.
As a restauranteur I know that if your coolers are not to a certain temperature inspectors will pour bleach over all of your fish or whatever food you have there... so you cannot sell it.
Why? Because they can.
reply to post by crimvelvet
From your first link. Foods can be proved vital and comply with the 5th...
That type of bureaucratic bullying happens all the time. I have run into it several times. It is not whether you meet the regulatory standards it is who you know and who you bribe.
Originally posted by jonnywhite
Funny how this country regulates us into servitude yet does business with other countries that do not and expects us to compete with them. Ok, that's pretty weird. So if I am not allowed to fish unless I have a $10,000 license and a $200,000 boat and am willing to submit myself to numerous inspections and limits on my takings, then how again am I going to compete with the guy that can go out on a boat he built, without a license, without inspections, with no limits other than the size of his boat? And he receives all the praise while I'm condemned as a fish killer.
Strange world: where everybody follows different rules but plays the same game.
HOnestly, I don't even think god could make this game work. That's why it's constantly adjusted. It's why people are silenced. It's why they breed for obedience. It's why we must fight it.edit on 5-8-2011 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)
Congressional Reform Act of 2011
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2.. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6.. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators,
Ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.
You must admit these regulations have done in many cases what they set out to do.
Discouraged irresponsible vendors from selling spoiled products. Saved lives.
You want regulations for bankers and air traffic controllers but not your food producers and sellers?
That would be suicide.
William Penn may have thought he had settled the matter. Arrested in 1670 for preaching Quakerism, Penn was brought to trial. Despite Penn's admitting the charge, four of the 12 jurors voted to acquit. The judge sent the four to jail "without meat, drink, fire and tobacco" for failing to find Penn guilty.
On appeal, however, the jurors' action was upheld and the right of juries to judge both the law and the facts -- to nullify the law if it chose -- became part of British constitutional law.
It ultimately became part of American constitutional law as well,but you'd never know it listening to jury instructions today almost anywhere in the country. With only a few exceptions, juries are explicitly or implicitly told to worry only about the facts and let the judge decide the law. The right of jury nullification has become one of the legal system's best kept secrets.... prorev.com...