For days I have wandered the technological path of history, and it’s a bloody shame my own book shelves aren’t full of this stuff!
There is evidence in writing and thinking peoples history of quite a few people being exposed to what others here, will call impossible, rubbish. But
if you look, you can find something that excites the mind to a possibility.
A very real possibility in my opinion.
What I was looking for, in my extremely round about way, was something to suggest ‘where’ Adolf(? maybe) and previous German leaders came upon
their technology. I don’t think I have answered that question even in the minute imagining, but I’ll keep going because I’m hooked and
completely fascinated by what I have found so far…and it’s only been a couple of days.
At the back of my mind, while searching, the idea of the great floods stay with me, they are mentioned in all sorts of texts, the timing, and the
repercussions. But for this thread I’ll stick to the topic.
Here’s where I went…come for a walk!
Abiogenesis and anthropogenesis
One day when the gods were walking they found two tree trunks. They transformed them into the shape of humans. Odin gave them life, Vili gave them
mind and Ve gave them the ability to hear, see, and speak. The gods named them Askur and Embla and built the kingdom of Middle-earth for them; and, to
keep out the jötnar, the gods placed a gigantic fence made of Ymir's eyelashes around Middle-earth.
In 1691 Halley sought the post of Savilian Professor of Astronomy at Oxford, but, due to his well-known atheism, was opposed by the Archbishop of
Canterbury, John Tillotson andBishop Stillingfleet. The post went instead to David Gregory, who had the support of Isaac Newton.
A 1702 printing of Halley's chart
In 1692, Halley put forth the idea of a hollow Earth consisting of a shell about 500 miles (800 km) thick, two inner concentric shells and an
innermost core, about the diameters of the planets Venus, Mars, and Mercury. He suggested that atmospheres separated these shells, and that each
shell had its own magnetic poles, with each sphere rotating at a different speed. Halley proposed this scheme in order to explain anomalous compass
readings. He envisaged each inner region as having an atmosphere and being luminous (and possibly inhabited), and speculated that escaping gas caused
the Aurora Borealis.
Incidentally Halley is the earliest not inscribed on rock, that I can find so far…
In 1828 Congress approved the United States South Seas Exploring Expedition, especially through the efforts of John Cleves Symmes of Ohio, who
believed in the “Holes in the Poles” theory that the Earth was hollow and could be entered through cavities at the two poles. Part of the mission
of this expedition, which had commercial, diplomatic, and scientific objectives, was to find these entrances to the center of the Earth and claim
their rights for the newly developing country. Ten years later in 1838 the expedition actually began when Ltn. Charles Wilkes set sail from Virginia
in the flagship Vincennes with a fleet of six vessels. The Wilkes Expedition or US Ex Ex, as it was to be called, cost $928,000, lasted four years,
covered nearly 87,000 miles, and visited most of the continents of the world, including a significant effort in the exploration of the coast of
When the Expedition finally returned at the end of four years, over four thousand animals specimens, fifty thousand plant specimens (both living and
preserved), thousands of anthropological artifacts, and thousands of minerals, gems, and fossils had been amassed. These collections comprised the
largest number of natural history objects that young America had accumulated and represented specimens native to our own country as well as regions
throughout the world. These collections were the basis for the beginning of two great botanical institutions now based in Washington: the Smithsonian
Institution’s United States National Herbarium and the United States Botanic Garden.
**I could find no evidence to suggest they found it**
Don’t forget Olaf
The Coming Race (original title), also reprinted as Vril: The Power of the Coming Race is a novel published in 1870 by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. The novel
is an early example of science fiction, sometimes cited as the first of this genre. However, many early readers believed that its account of a
superior subterranean master race and the energy-form called Vril was accurate, to the extent that some theosophists accepted the book as truth.
Furthermore, since 1960 there is a conspiracy theory about a secret Vril-Society.
Legendary for his turgid prose ("it was a dark and stormy night...") Bulwer-Lytton's pioneering science fiction novel "Vril" was taken very seriously
by 19th Century Atlantis fans (for instance, Scott-Elliot). Vril is a mysterious energy which is used by Lytton's subterranian race (refugees from the
Deluge) to power their advanced civilization; it was later treated as a reality by occultists. The plot of this book was recycled for numerous 'B'
pulp scifi movies and assorted crank theories.
(am still reading this, it’s very interesting)
Lytton's then-popular 1870 "lost race" novel The Coming Race, whose plot revolves around a superior race of people, the Vril-ya, who derive their
powers from an electromagnetic substance named "Vril."
The legend has received a further layer of elaboration from recent authors like Raymond Bernard who conflate Bulwer-Lytton's "Coming Race" with
speculations about interior civilizations which live on the inside of the Hollow Earth. (The concept of a hollow earth was first advanced by Edmond
Halley at the end of the seventeenth century.) By contrast, Bulwer-Lytton's subterranean people dwelt in caverns within the crust of a solid earth.
The world of the Vril-ya is always described as being underground tunnels, artificially lit (using Vril). The book contains no suggestion of a hollow
earth; theories of this kind are only found in subsequent works.
“With the Nazi Party in power in 1933 (which itself originated from the Thule Gesellschaft) the occultists now received official backing for their
continued development of the flight discs. Thule and Vril started with the RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft) series from 1934-41.
As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu I and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1 Jager (Hunter). The reason for the changes were
due to Thule’s revolutionary Triebwerk (Thrustwork) engine that used rotating electro-magnetic-gravitic fields to affect gravity. Vril had by 1941
perfected the SM-Levitator as well and thus two new series entered limited construction, but with slightly different goals.”
“The Vril 8 Odin was the last official Vril disc that was flight tested in the spring of 1945 during the collapse. This disc had an automatic Oberon
upward-firing gun installation on top of the control center.
The Vril Gesellschaft had started evacuating to Base 211 in Neu Schwabenland Antarctica in March 1945 so it would seem like the Vril 8 Odin was the
last Vril disc actually tested. However, some weeks after Germany surrendered both Haunebu and Vril craft were spotted in the skies over occupied
Germany. Although the Vril 9 Abjager (Universal Hunter) was show as a design on paper, a craft identical to it was photographed postwar.
Vril’s final plan was the construction of a large 139 meter long cylindrical Raumschiff known by the SS E-IV Unit as the Andromeda-Gerat. Work on
this “flying cigar” was to commence in 1945 at a huge, sheltered above-ground Zeppelin-like hangar. Once completed it could internally accommodate
one large Haunebu IV and two Vril 2 craft, making the journey to Aldebaran, the ultimate dream of the Vril Gesellschaft.”
****You really need to check out the photos at the end of the page****
This link has amazing information if you’re so inclined, but be careful! You may end up buried for days as I myself have been lately.
For my own reference I started putting the dates down, nerd for detail…if you find fault please correct me with links, they’re welcome.
1656 – (1742) Edmond Halley born
1692 – Halley put forward idea of hollow earth
1803 – (1873) Edward Lytton born
1818 – John Cleves Symmes Jnr theory of hollow earth
1820 – Arctic discovered (?)
1822 – 1831 A narrative of four voyages B. Morrell
1829 - Olaf (as previously posted about)
1830 – 1833 Principals of geology – Charles Lyells (book)
1863 – Charles Lyells – Geological Evidences of the Antiquity of Man (who influenced Verne, I think…So many days so many links… see if I can
find it again
1864 – Verne writes Journey to the centre of the earth orig. French
1870 - Lytton's then-popular 1870 "lost race"
(1889 – 1945) Adolf Hitler born
1893 – Norway, the ‘Fram’ weighed anchor
1919 – Vril (All German Society for Metaphysics) merged with Thule
Gesellschaft(according to Rob Arndt)
1922 – disc machine constructed in Munich
1930 – Vril publication Vril. Die Kosmische Urkraft (Vril, the cosmic basic energy)
1933 – Adolft became Chancellor of Germany
1939 – First German Saucer flight (?)
1947 – Byrde expedition (and letter this thread)
1960 – Existance of Vril society alledged by Jacques Bergier & Louis Pauwels
How are these two ideas linked? The saucers and the Hollow Earth? Or when
How did ‘they’, Vril come to obtain this information?
I’ll be back
Have a nice day, some more light reading if you’re interested…
“And then as Guru Thou Knowledge imparted;
Each Faith contending
Their own stand as the u__l__t__i__m__a__ __t__h__u__l__e__;
And thus arose disputations and scriptures numerous”
Some believe that unless you are called you will not find it.
This reference was mentioned by a fellow who wrote a book about hollow earth theory and where he got some research from
The OC pdf at the top of the pic goes into detail about occult chemistry which apparently was gained through clairvoyance (?) does my head in, that
one…The periodic table (+ a few others yet named)
The third diagram down on the right looks remarkably similar to those Vlad posted in OP’s original thread
Well that’s what I’ve got so far, but I have to say it’s still very much plausible…
Have some more coming soon..
edit on 10-8-2011 by AussieAmandaC because: (no reason given)
edit on 10-8-2011 by AussieAmandaC because: added pic