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Koch-Backed Group Accused Of Voter Suppression In Wisconsin Recall Elections

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Leaving the unions out of the issue in Wisconsin would be like leaving



Originally posted by neo96


seems to me that if unions have millions




Originally posted by mishigas

that is the history of labor unions not only in the US, but globally. They have always used violence of one means or another to get their way.


Three posters who are unable to comment at all about the Koch Brothers, Americans For Prosperity or the fake and illegal flyers that they distributed to voters with the goal of suppressing democracy and the individuals right to be heard.

Instead they offered up a debate about unions.

Deflection, ignorance and in their tactics an endorsement of voter suppression.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
um oh now where did i hear that the koch brothers employ over 50 thousand union people?

hrmm oh and all not at the taxpyer expense unlike oh whats that state now? oh yeah wisconsin.

seems to me that if unions have millions they get to throw at whatever poltician they want(democrats) seems to me they arent poor and they are charging too much in dues oh agian all at the taxpayers expense.

gotta love that "socialistic" goodwill.

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Once your pro Elite, corporatist ideas run out of piss ons to squash, you guys are gonna have a hard time explaining where everything went.

NEO, you gonna have a party when the first Trillionaire springs up? I bet you are stock piling the lotion already huh?

remember you can't exterminate all your straw men in reality, or you are gonna be left with the truth about your agenda.

350,000,000 enter, 12 men leave



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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at the rate of the ideology you keep perpetuating only people on welfare are going to be left

and when that happens just wondering gonna have a pity party?



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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at the rate of the ideology you keep perpetuating only people on welfare are going to be left

and when that happens just wondering gonna have a pity party?


You guys are gonna get rid of that, be proud, you guys stand for such great ideas, that benefit so few people.

Once private slavery is sanctioned their will be no real choice left, just the illusion of choice. I welcome it, that might be the only way to regain sanity

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Once private slavery is sanctioned their will be no real choice left, just the illusion of choice. I welcome it, that might be the only way to regain sanity


yep all those welfare peeps know that all too well



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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If their little group is guilty, then they should be punished.
Simple.
We can all get behind that, can't we?

Oh yeah, and *cough* ACORN *cough*
Right?



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Just keep in mind that historically speaking, when conditions are bad and there is no welfare, warfare soon follows.

And the ones on the sharp end of the stick are usually the ones who smugly demanded others go starve quietly in that dark corner over there. When the dark corner gets overcrowded, the starving boil out and take what they need.

I guess you've never studied much history.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
If their little group is guilty, then they should be punished.
Simple.
We can all get behind that, can't we?

Oh yeah, and *cough* ACORN *cough*
Right?


Cough *GOP* Cough



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
 





Once private slavery is sanctioned their will be no real choice left, just the illusion of choice. I welcome it, that might be the only way to regain sanity


yep all those welfare peeps know that all too well


Yup Welfare people don't have a choice, exactly, I see your logic is a sterling as ever.
"I like being miserable, I do it for fun because NEO has little merit back up the alternatives he proposes!"

Anyhow, go for Cons, slash it down... The best way to improve society is to stick it to the lowly.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Anyone who subverts the process should be punished for doing so..Congress, all of them.

Giving personhood to corporations gave some folks (boards, ceos, other execs) multiple votes, since each corporation is a seperate "person", but run by the same people. Pretty much any CEO sits on several boards, and most boardmembers are execs of different companies.

Always wondered how anyone had the capacity and the time to run multiple companies simultaneously to the point of actually earning the astronomical salaries they give themselves, all while "serving" on several different boards with handsome salaries and perks from them, too.

Guys like the Koch brothers get to vote multiple times, and then want to con people out of exercising their one single vote.

Personally, I find their behavior has become nothing short of treason.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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just exactly what has been improved since 1935? come on now what have all that goodness and joy done?

except to keep people down and stupid and make more of them ?

dont see any logic there.
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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just exactly what has been improved since 1935? come on now what have all that goodness and joy done?

except to keep people down and stupid and make more of them ?

dont see any logic there.
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Since 1935 we have become the most powerful and prosperous nation in the history of the world.

Let me ask you, Why do you hate America so much?

Maybe you guys should start killing the people you hate, then you will be free of all the lazy leeches that
are making all the rich people poor. Problem solved


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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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14 trillion in debt another 50 to 200 trillion in unfunded liabilities(social security,medicare,medicaid)

that was hilarious.

why do you hate america hating on business? once upon a time americas business was business doh!



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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Nobody hates business.

What is hated are the people who run those businesses who choose to pollute, cheat, steal, bribe, and generally wreck the place for everyone but themselves.

Business, like capitalism, is ok per se.

It is the jerks who don't know when to say when, I have enough, I'll leave some for my fellow citizens that are despised and hated for being the selfish, greedy traitors they are.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by apacheman
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Nobody hates business.

What is hated are the people who run those businesses who choose to pollute, cheat, steal, bribe, and generally wreck the place for everyone but themselves.

Business, like capitalism, is ok per se.

It is the jerks who don't know when to say when, I have enough, I'll leave some for my fellow citizens that are despised and hated for being the selfish, greedy traitors they are.


So um, businesses can be successful, just not too successful. If they are, then they are punished?

Mediocrity is NOT supposed to be a goal in life!



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Big is usually mediocre.

What's wrong with being one of many good companies serving different flavors?

The compulsion to grow for the sake of growing, to get bigger just because is a sickness.

The person who founds a great company, serves the local market, employs the local people at a livable wage in a safe work environment, participates fuly in the local economy and has only two homes (residence and vacation) and chooses to stop there and not drive his/her competitors out of business or try to absorb them, most certainly IS NOT mediocre.

He or she is a mature, rational, and disciplined person who is a resounding success.

Bigger isn't usually better.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Success is measured by the individual. NOT by the people self-elected to be their judge.

Only I can measure my success. Not you, nor the government.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
It was the Bush administration that dropped the charges. Facts are inconvenient to idealogical passions.


Wrong and probably a lie but you might not know better.

online.wsj.com...



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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America will lose its place by pandering too much to business, you guys are getting your way and look at what is happening?

America cannot compete with China, but America cannot interfere with business, so America must eat it because there is no option but to bow down with Neo and his friends.

America is great because it can balance Neo, You guys are busy making sure that there is no way to contest business and the elites you worship.

200 Trillion Neo,


You'll be happy when there are Trillionaires and you'll still blame the working man, hopefully you'll be alone



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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janky your way? the former soviet russia hence "FORMER"

visa is a trillion dollar corporation only one in existence

i will be happy when more trillionaires are born they will be paying people to work not sit on their butts and get fat and cry about how poor they are.

janky people age healthcare costs rise poor people rise you think that 200 trillion aint going to happen?

um yeah ok
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