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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by buster2010
Yes and I suppose you just expect Americans to sit and wait to die?
Do tell, can you think of any such camp to have been even remotely successful in that goal since the advent of the gun?
No no, not the silly Concentration camps the Germans created. Those, the citizens didn't know how to fight, the people were defeated in mind and spirit because that's the culture of Europe, and the soldiers had no souls to begin with. I mean actual death camps with the purpose of killing people whose occupants were from a defiant-to-the-death people? Can you name one that succeeded? Because you seem to have this idea that killing a few will make the rest get in line, when if anything, history teaches that such tactics done to a free and defiant people lead to miserable failure.
In the video game world, they even contemplate ways an unarmed population can manage to break out of one.
I can imagine several thousand Americans pulling this off.
For goodness sake, even Captain America knows, silly!
It will never succeed, because we are all like rocks, defiant until the end. You can kill one of us, but a hundred more take his place. That's why death camps don't work on free men.
Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
Wait - if so many of TPTB were in favor of fascism (Hitler & Mussolini), then why did the U.S. go to war against them in WW2?
Maybe the American Powers That Be saw how incredibly powerful Hitler had become and thought he was bad for business?
I believe the Coup d'etat proved to be successful on November 22, 1963, a day that SHOULD live in infamy. On this day, the CIA took control of America's Foreign policy, LBJ got his much desired Presidency, Corporate America got the Vietnam War, and the elite bankers began deficit spending.
What you are about to read is America’s best-kept secret.
From 1928 to 1932, there were five years of “Geneva Conventions.” The free nations of the world met in Geneva, Switzerland for five continuous years to set up what would be the “bankrupt policy” of all the participating nations.
In 1930, the United States, Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal and other countries all declared bankruptcy.
It was the result of the stock market crash of 1929. The Great Depression triggered the bankruptcies....
In 1932, Franklin Roosevelt came into power as President of the United States.
Roosevelt’s job was to put into place and administer the bankruptcy that had been declared two years earlier.
America’s “Corporate Government” needed a key Supreme Court decision to implement the bankruptcy plan.
The “corporate” United States government had to have a legal case on the books to set the stage for recognizing, implementing and supporting the bankruptcy.
The bankruptcy started in 1930-31.
The bankruptcy became “official” when Roosevelt came into office, although the public was not aware of the “declaration of bankruptcy” in Geneva by the United States...
A coup d'état (English: /ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/, French: [ku deta]; plural: coups d'état)—
also known as a coup, putsch, and overthrow—is the sudden, extrajudicial deposition of a government, usually by a small group of the existing state establishment—typically the military—to replace the deposed government with another body; either civil or military. A coup d'état succeeds if the usurpers establish their dominance when the incumbent government fails to prevent or successfully resist their consolidation of power. If the coup neither fully fails nor achieves overall success, the attempted coup d'etat is likely to lead to a civil war.
Typically, a coup d'état uses the extant government's power to assume political control of the country. In Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook, military historian Edward Luttwak says, "A coup consists of the infiltration of a small, but critical, segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder", thus, armed force (either military or paramilitary) is not a defining feature of a coup d'état..
The Bush family (right Hegelians) staging a coup detat against Roosevelt
although qite sad at the same time.