posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 04:43 PM
Threads like this really bother me. I see one group getting lumped into a category with assumptions being made on why they believe what they believe.
You can't do that en masse. The Declaration of Independence....
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed...
All men are created equal... They are all entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.... That is where the equality lies. That equality
doesn't mean everyone is entitled to affordable healthcare, it doesn't mean you don't have to work and Uncle Sam gets to take money from others so
you can have a nice house, a cell phone, etc...
There are different circumstances when dealing with social aid programs. SOme folks lose their job, then their insurance, then have problems paying
their mortgage or rent, can't buy groceries. So they get medicaid, food stamps, Section 8 housing vouchers, uncle sam gives you a cell phone to look
for work.... So Mom and Dad go to work at McDonalds while looking for a real job, unemployment supplements them, section 8 helps them with the
rent... A couple months later they find decent jobs, drop the unemployment. They keep the medicaid for 3 months till the work insurance kicks in.
They are off section 8 in a couple months...
Now Joe Blow loses his job. He gets medicaid. He gets unemployment. He get's the housing assistance. He gets the cell. He gets food stamps. He
doesn't bother to look for work until the unemployment is about to expire a year later. Then he only works long enough to refill the unemployment.
He never get's off the other stuff.
Yeah the government is raising my taxes to fund both of those guys. I work my rear off and I lose 40% of my income when the 2nd guy loses nothing and
actually gets 45k a year in benefits while not doing anything. So take stiff away from my kids and my family so he can stay home and watch tv.
We aren't a communal society. THis isn't a country where everyone get's whatever they want whether they work or not. THis country is where you
work to get what you want. Hard work leads to success. Laziness leads to not having things, or it should. But it doesn't anymore. Everyone is
fine no matter how hard they work. We stopped rewarding hard work we now penalize it. Steal from the haves and give to the have nots.
I have sympathy and have no problems helping people get back on their feet. I do have problems supporting people in perpetuity and allowing that to
be ok. Remember when people were embarrassed to use food stamps? Remember when you didn't want to tell anyone you were drawing unemployment and
when it was embarrassing if you lost your job? THis country has changed for the worse.
We need major entitlement reform. The government should give a helping hand, help folks get on their feet not support them forever. I give to
charities who do a much better job helping people in a more cost effective manner than the gubment. But to a certain degree you should be able to
choose what to do with the money you make rather than being told what to do with it, that isn't what America was intended to be. I should be able to
decide if my family needs the money or if I can spare some to help you. congress should not decide that.
I grew up on a farm. When I was young we didn't have a lot of money. But when we'd go deer hunting we would take the extra meat to needy families.
This country is getting ridiculous. We've deviated so far from the founders intended path it's silly. What you deem as not being sympathetic some
view as frustration with the entitlement system. They take and take and take... No options for the rest of us. Our congress is supposed to
represent us. They don't. They make their own decisions rather than representing their constituents. THe elected officials don't do what they are
supposed to, they don't represent our interests, they represent what will get them reelected and what is in their best interest.
From where I stand I should be able to choose how much I can afford to help others as opposed to having half of my tax dollars going towards
entitlements for others. I'll help anyone as much as I can, I simply don't like the idea of being told exactly how much I have to help without
regard for my situation. So you seem to think conservatives aren't sympathetic. Let me ask you this, why on earth do I need anyone to decide
what's best for my family? And why should the government decide that someone else's family is more important than mine?