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Adds at least $7 trillion to our debt over the next 10 years. The deal purports to "cut" $2.1 trillion, but the "cut" is from a baseline that adds $10 trillion to the debt. This deal, even if all targets are met and the Super Committee wields its mandate - results in a BEST case scenario of still adding more than $7 trillion more in debt over the next 10 years. That is sickening.
The Super Committee's mandate is to add $7 trillion in new debt. Let's be clear: $2.1 trillion in reductions off a nearly $10 trillion,10-year debt is still more than $7 trillion in debt. The Super Committee limits the constitutional check of the filibuster by expediting passage of bills with a simple majority. The Super Committee is not precluded from any issue, therefore the filibuster could be rendered moot. In addition, the plan harms the possible passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment. Since the goal is never to balance, having the BBA as a "trigger" ensures that the committee will simply report its $1.2 trillion deficit reduction plan and never move to a BBA vote.
MOTION TO PROCEED.—Notwithstanding Rule XXII of the Standing Rules of the Senate, it is in order, not later than 2 days of session after the date on which a joint committee bill is reported or discharged from all committees to which it was referred, for the majority leader of the Senate or the majority leader’s designee to move to proceed to the consideration of the joint committee bill.
CONSIDERATION.—All points of order against the joint committee bill and against consideration of the joint committee bill are waived. Consideration of the joint committee bill and of all debatable motions and appeals in connection therewith shall not exceed a total of 30 hours which shall be divided equally between the Majority and Minority Leaders or their designees. A motion further to limit debate on the joint committee bill is in order, shall require an affirmative vote of three-fifths of the Members duly chosen and sworn, and is not debatable. Any debatable motion or appeal is debatable for not to exceed 1 hour, to be divided equally between those favoring and those opposing the motion or appeal. All time used for consideration of the joint committee bill, including time used for quorum calls and voting, shall be counted against the total 30 hours of consideration.
(4) NO AMENDMENTS.—An amendment to the joint committee bill, or a motion to postpone, or a motion to proceed to the consideration of other business, or a motion to recommit the joint committee bill, is not in order.
(d) AMENDMENT.—The joint committee bill shall not be subject to amendment in either the House of Representatives or the Senate.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
So Huffpo says this is what Republicans want so they have more power? That is so silly. If Democrats vote for it, then they have equal liability. They need to stop lying and misrepresenting things. Huffpo is full of it to begin with. Arianna is Darth Soros evil twin.
However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
- GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
Originally posted by moosevernel
if 13 people have the power to prety much do whatever the hell they want with no vote etc etc with th most powerful country in the world than surely that is not a good thing....
Originally posted by moosevernel
It seems to me the USA is moving more and more towards dicatorship...
Originally posted by Maxmars
Originally posted by emaildogs
reply to post by MegaMind
This New Super Congress is illegitimate, and Legislation passed in this manner is Unconstitutional and Unrepresentative of the American peoples wishes.
Time to Clean the Rifles Boys
The political parties are well aware of that, and they have their lawyers and media moguls "on the job" to obfuscate that fact.
They also know that their self-aggrandizing, self-serving, and duplicitous political gamesmanship is incompatible with the way the government is supposed to function.... solution?.... "CHANGE the rules so we can do what we want to"........
Forget the rifles... just once I would like to see one of these "political leaders" face a silent crowd.... cheered on only by their glee club... while the hundreds remaining simply stare at him or her... until they stop pretending we are as stupid as they want us to be.
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by vermonster
Don't forget the internet.
Americans arn't going to do squat until they are disconnected from unreality.