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Ron Paul Sounds Alarm on “Disturbing” Super Congress

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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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I don't think what was done is constitutional. It marginalizes the rest of the members of congress. The people voted to send representatives and they do not get to take part of the debate, or formation of any of the bills? What a terrible blow in democracy we are witnessing. Which part of the they're going to pay attention, now?


Congressman Ron Paul warns that the all-powerful new “Super Congress” created by the vote on the debt ceiling will be used to fast-track tax increases while concentrating more power over the nation’s purse strings in the hands of the Washington elite.



During an appearance on Fox News, Andrew Napolitano warned that the “Super Congress” was an assault on the authority the Constitution gives elected representatives.


In a st atement made yesterday in response to the passage of the Budget Control Act, Congressman Ron Paul expressed his alarm at the establishment of this “disturbing” new committee, and warned that it would be used to ram through tax increases.

“The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments,” said Paul. “Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission– even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership’s agenda.”

The Congressman added that the committee represents “Nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership.


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Ron Paul is correct. What this means to me is exactly what Alex Jones said it means. We have lost any real form of representative government. There are 50 states in the Union, but be aware your state have a congressmen or senator on the Council of the "Tyrannical Thirteen" because if not, your state will not count.

All we need is just one more fix......just one more fix, ok?


NowI think the next step should be the creation of a ministry of silly walks too.



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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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The "good ole days" are over. A new world order is at hand. Technology and Money rule the world. I wonder who our first leader of the world will be



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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The Enabling Act (German: Ermächtigungsgesetz) was passed by Germany's Reichstag and signed by President Paul von Hindenburg on 23 March 1933. It was the second major step, after the Reichstag Fire Decree, through which Chancellor Adolf Hitler legally obtained plenary powers and established his dictatorship. It received its name from its legal status as an enabling act granting the Cabinet the authority to enact laws without the participation of the Reichstag. The act stated that it was to last for four years unless renewed by the Reichstag, which occurred twice. The formal name of the Enabling Act was Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich (English: "Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich").


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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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This whole debt ceiling business could all very well have been contrived to divert attention from the usurpation of power from congress by the new Council of 13. Certainly a terrifying development, and at the very least is high treason. Anybody who voted for this should be arrested immediately and sent to a secret military prison in Somalia.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Sure they should.

A super new groovy uber funky fresh committee will be formed, and the secrecy and control will increase in the federal government's hands. Pompey, Marcus Crassius, and Julius Caesar would be proud of the u.s. government.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Is this the "Crisis, Reaction, Solution" of the whole debt-ceiling drama?

Super Congress: the final nail in the coffin of representative democracy and freedom as we know it

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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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If this goes through it will be a declaration of total war on individual freedom in the USA and possibly the whole of North America too.....
I see too many strands comming together in the rope they are weaving to hang us with....
Drug wars in Mexico, Running the border of the US/Canada from one organisation etc....
I think the NWO will be consolidation North America, as a first step to world domination.....
Goodbye Constitution......
Hello Storm Troops....



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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You do realize that this "Super Congress" is only sending recommendations to the full Congress which they still have to vote on. If Congress doesn't like it they will vote it down and send this committee back to the table to come up with something different.

You all are letting paranoia overtake sensibility. Congress is always forming special committee's to put reports together for them and this is not really any different.

rules.house.gov...

That's the actual bill so look it over and see what's threatening in it please.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Quick, we need to find the Super Congress' kryptonite! Where's Lex Luthor? And does this make Obama, Louis Lane?



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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You need to warn people that the link is a PDF.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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You all are letting paranoia overtake sensibility. Congress is always forming special committee's to put reports together for them and this is not really any different.

Super Congress isnt needed, and it is unconstitutional



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Go back and read the OP to see what is wrong with the Super Congress:




The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments,” said Paul. “Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission– even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership’s agenda.”


It gives more power to selected Senators on the committee than are held by other Senators. That is most definately not ok.
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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Redwookieaz
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Go back and read the OP to see what is wrong with the Super Congress:




The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments,” said Paul. “Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission– even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership’s agenda.”


It gives more power to selected Senators on the committee than are held by other Senators. That is most definately not ok.
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Some folks even read the thread. Go watch TV.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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You all are letting paranoia overtake sensibility. Congress is always forming special committee's to put reports together for them and this is not really any different.

Super Congress isnt needed, and it is unconstitutional


This type of move is only necessary in some very bad specific cases. We have seen it happen in history.


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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by kro32
You do realize that this "Super Congress" is only sending recommendations to the full Congress which they still have to vote on. If Congress doesn't like it they will vote it down and send this committee back to the table to come up with something different.

You all are letting paranoia overtake sensibility. Congress is always forming special committee's to put reports together for them and this is not really any different.

rules.house.gov...

That's the actual bill so look it over and see what's threatening in it please.


You do realize you are wrong don't you? It is brought forward for an up or down vote - no amendments no filibusters - not business as usual!

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Sounds like the first step in a multi-step process of slowly fine tuning overall power down to an eventual handful of chosen "special people"... aka the elite dictators.

The current "due process" traditional way of doing things may soon be joining the dinosaur fossils and steam-operated farm machinery in the Smithsonian.

This particular round table of Camelot won't be utilized for noble purposes.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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The higher the concentration of power in fewer hands, less noble the intentions turn out to be.

Politburo



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Someone sent me this email today:

The 26th amendment -granting the vote to 18 year-olds - took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified.
Why? The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven took 1 year or less to become the law of the land.. because of public pressure.


If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people - it will only take three days for most people to receive this message.

AMENDMENT
Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2.. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6.. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, Ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.


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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Ron Paul is just mad at the fact he won't be allowed on the New and Improved, All Powerful Legion of Doom (ie Super Congress)



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Would you care to explain what is Unconstitutional about it and how exactly Congress has lost any of their power?




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