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Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
Well there's been a story floating around since the beginning of man about how an all powerful supreme being brought everything into existence. Of course that story has been passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years so it's most likely false. Nevertheless, it might be worthy checking into.
Man will never discover how the universe was created simply because it is always expanding. It's just to large to be figured out with human eyes or modern day technology, or even future technology for that matter.
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
Well there's been a story floating around since the beginning of man about how an all powerful supreme being brought everything into existence. Of course that story has been passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years so it's most likely false. Nevertheless, it might be worthy checking into.
Man will never discover how the universe was created simply because it is always expanding. It's just to large to be figured out with human eyes or modern day technology, or even future technology for that matter.
That 'story' has been looked into for the past 2000 years, and has failed to reveal any confirmable, testable information that helps us understand the universe and reality in any way. The fact this tale has been passed down through the generation says nothing about its credibility.
How does the fact that the universe is expanding mean we will never discover how it came into being? what do you have to substantiate this claim?
How does the fact that the universe is of a certain size mean we will never be able to 'figure out' how it came into existence?
How do you know we will not ever be able to know this?
Originally posted by Prezbo369
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker
Science does not claim to know the origins of the universe, or the origins of life.
That's a bold bold statement. It was so bold, I had to use the word "bold" twice. It was so bold that I used the "bold" feature to make it stand out. How can you even make a statement like that? How do you know what kind of advancements we will make in the future?
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
It's just to large to be figured out with human eyes or modern day technology, or even future technology for that matter.
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
Originally posted by Prezbo369
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker
Science does not claim to know the origins of the universe, or the origins of life.
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Are not both of these apart of science with their own ideas of how things came into being?
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Nah, these things have evidence to back up their claims. Could they be wrong? Yes. But as of right now, that's where the evidence points.
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Are not both of these apart of science with their own ideas of how things came into being?
Originally posted by Prezbo369
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
Originally posted by Prezbo369
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker
Science does not claim to know the origins of the universe, or the origins of life.
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Are not both of these apart of science with their own ideas of how things came into being?
Again, the ignorance is simply astounding......
Science does not deal with absolutes, it does not claim to absolutely know anything, a scientific fact is something that can be verified by other people by following a described procedure. If the fact is more closely examined or the conditions change, the fact may be reformatted. Largest and clearest example is Newton's Laws of Motion, but ofc this is probably a bit over your head......
edit on 2-8-2011 by Prezbo369 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ExistentialNightmare
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Yes, gravity's just an illusion too.
It's painfully obvious that you don't care for truth, you only care for YOUR truth. Your arguments and comments are narrow-minded and spiteful.
You'd be doing yourself a favour if you changed your debate style, and read up on the refutations to your monotous arguments before you smuggly attack others user's views with your prejudice.
What is in front of my face that gives me the answer?
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
The answer to how we got here is right in front your face, yet people through that right out the window.
Which testimonies? Do you take into consideration every story out there of every belief system, or do you pick one belief system? If so, why, as they all claim to be the truth....
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
How can anyone disregard the millions upon millions of testimonies and stories of those who lived before us? Intelligent Design is the only logical explanation of how we got here.
I'm not saying science in general is a fallacy.
What I'm saying is that the big bang is science biggest fallacy. They have drawn this conclusion without any evidence to back it up.
Science can't even give a solid answer to how the Moon was created, so how in the world could they possible know how the universe can to be?
Originally posted by Hydroman
That's a bold bold statement. It was so bold, I had to use the word "bold" twice. It was so bold that I used the "bold" feature to make it stand out. How can you even make a statement like that? How do you know what kind of advancements we will make in the future?
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
It's just to large to be figured out with human eyes or modern day technology, or even future technology for that matter.
Imagine people 2000 years ago. I bet you they thought that the things we have today, something as simple as a refrigerator, would be impossible.
Well there's been a story floating around since the beginning of man about how an all powerful supreme being brought everything into existence.
Of course that story has been passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years so it's most likely false. Nevertheless, it might be worthy checking into.
Man will never discover how the universe was created simply because it is always expanding. It's just to large to be figured out with human eyes or modern day technology, or even future technology for that matter.
Originally posted by Hydroman
What is in front of my face that gives me the answer?
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
The answer to how we got here is right in front your face, yet people through that right out the window.
Which testimonies? Do you take into consideration every story out there of every belief system, or do you pick one belief system? If so, why, as they all claim to be the truth....
Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
How can anyone disregard the millions upon millions of testimonies and stories of those who lived before us? Intelligent Design is the only logical explanation of how we got here.
In order to discover how something came into being wouldn't you need a sample first?
How can one say the universe was created in the fashion they claim when we haven't even gone past our own Moon? Pictures from space could not possibly tell this story.
Every thing we know about Earth we have learned because we are here on Earth. Therefore, it is only logical to conclude that in order to learn the true nature of the universe we need to go beyond our own solar system.
If what your saying is true then we need to put both "The Big Bang" and "Evolution" theory's in the religion category, because they are just fairy tales.
Are not both of these apart of science with their own ideas of how things came into being?
Your missing the point, that's why you can't understand where I'm coming from.
I'm fully aware of what real science is.
The point is, where talking about the universe and how it was created. Science has not proven how it was created, yet they teach it in schools and tells our kids that's how we got here. It's a lie, and you expect me to teach my kids that.
The answer to how we got here is right in front your face, yet people through that right out the window.
How can anyone disregard the millions upon millions of testimonies and stories of those who lived before us?
Intelligent Design is the only logical explanation of how we got here.
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Once more rephrasing your almost identical I-have-only-one-thread, and once more repeating the same pseudo-science claims, which you apparantly are unable to substantiate, when it comes to the point.
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The movie 'Avatar' is the worst (and most disappointing) piece of new-age 'back to nature' and 'the noble savage' propaganda trash I've seen. It's even worse than "What the bleep do we know".
And what has that to do with Hawking and cosmogony and cosmology?