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Originally posted by irsuccubus
hmmmm....I guess I will throw my hat in the ring and start by saying I grew up during the golden age of hip hop. I can remember late night rides with my mom as she blasted Public Enemy, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, Run DMC and many others. I can remember grabbing blank tapes and hunting in the middle of the night for the underground stations that played the real hip hop. When I was 12 I bought Redman's cassette and played it until I knew every song on there forwards and backwards. His style was so gutta...so raw. I pulled on my hoodie and boobed my head late into the night. I watched fashion morph as Salt n Peppa showed that female sexuality can be empowering and Queen Latifah rocked out out with her traditional african hats, all the while pumping her fist in the name of "Ladies First". KRS-1 dropped knowledge while the Beastie Boys showed that even a former punk band could ride the wave of hip hop. Lords of the Underground, K-solo, EPMD all bumped a northeast sound that was unmatched. And then there were the backpackers. The Pharcyde, The Jungle Brothers,Del the funky homosapien, De La Soul...I rocked them all. ...and make no mistake, I treasure every moment. Seeing what hip hop has become makes me mourn for the old days but there are still good rhymes to be had.
Mysogny and materialism is no stranger to the music industry. Its hip hop now, but remember arena rock? No ones hands were clean for they had Cherry Pie all over them and Tawny Kitaen was the original video ho as she writhed all over high end autos for our titillation. Danzig had sluts kissing Pentegram rings and "She rides" starts off with an ass in a thong, gyrating for the camera. But I digress.
Hip Hop is buried but not dead. And those who seek to dismiss it based on what is being fed to them now would do well to dig crates. Dust off a few classics like "Nobody Beats the Biz" and "So what you sayin"...hell take it back further to when Ice T was hardcore and bump a little Reckless Rivalry....Combat. You may remember it from Electric Boogaloo when Ozone and Turbo did battle with Electro. Hip hop is an entity......its street artists, its b-boys and girls, its Djs, its dancers, its fashionistas...its so much more than what the mainstream is trying to box it in as. But then....so is all art.
Thats just my two pennies
and to add...if anything is damaging the psyche of the youth it is the POP genre, lol. Rap is easy to pin to the wall because its often very in your face. But to be honest....my kids see that # coming a mile away. The know a wack rapper when they hear it. But POP...ah. Its trickier when you have girls who rep the drunken skank at the party and call it empowerment.edit on 2-8-2011 by irsuccubus because: (no reason given)edit on 2-8-2011 by irsuccubus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Originally posted by Muckster
reply to post by ProphecyPhD
Unfortunately for every rap song with a sensible message there are 50 more with a message of bling, booty slapping and violence.
True, very true but it seems all music is like that today. I am not a fan of today's music be it rap or rock. I pretty much listen to anything pre 2000.
I notice they still refer to black people, in these videos, as the n-word. Sorry but it just turns my stomach... crass and backwards no matter how much they try and dress it up with the "we have reclaimed the word and used it to empower” nonsense.
Yea I don't get the use of this word and yet when you are out singing along and you say it they give you the look of death. I had it happen and I didn't give a crap. It's a word, who cares. People need to stop getting offended by words. If the word was SOOOOOO offensive to them they wouldn't be calling themselves that. It's ok for them but my god be a white person who says it and look out.
It’s a shame... I like the hip-hop beats and I like rapping, as a style of poetry, but on the whole these guys are overrated, under talented and spread evil like a virus.
just my opinion...
I like hip hop over rap any day. Hard core "gangsta" (and I use that term loosely) rap is nothing but hate, drugs and filth imo. It's not music, anyone can "rap" about that stuff and ruin words that had normal meaning, like brain. Yeah don't even get me started on their ruining of normal words!!
Apparently if you were a former thug, drug dealer or felon the rap world wants you. Seems to be a common trend amungst them and they STILL Sing about it and then wonder why they end up in jail on weapons chargers. Hello you can't have machine guns just because you are some rapper!
Ok in short I agree