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5.8 Million Israelis Get 100 Billion In US Tax Dollars While American States Are Falling Apart

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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Hmmm.. I dont recall the Jews telling the Nazis that.. I do remember however the Nazis blaming the Jews for, well, everything. Also, there is a difference between being thrown out of a country, and rounded up and forced to board trains.

If you dont see the difference, then I would go back to whatever school you attended and demand a refund because you got screwed.

IF you are going to make the argument about status based on religious beliefs, then please include Islam in that argument, where the current skewed argument by their supposed imams is if you are not muslim, then you are the infadel and must be killed, even though the Quran places restrictions on that, which arent relayed by their leaders.

How about we view catholocism during the time of the inquisitions and how the Jesuits were essentially the military wing of the church durings its heyday?

Singeling out one relgiion in the manner you are doing forces me to go back and reference the 4th reigch comment I made.




When i see what you people are doing to the palestinians....i can't help but realize that you guys are doing the same thing to us, or are atleast trying to do the same thing to us through the homeland security ran by michael chertoff, a zionist israeli firste,r....then I see jewish people like joe leiberman, a zionist israeli firster, calling us terrorists here in our own country and trying to take away our constitution...then i see harry blackman, zionist israeli firster, that presided over the abortion rights issue.....roe vs, wade, roe is a jewish woman who had converted over to christianity and spilled the beans on the zionist israeli firster organizations that payed her to be roe in the case.....then I see every single one of our congress members give over 29 standing ovations to a zionist israeli firster......then i see everyone who is at high levels of our government speaking to aipac, a bunch of zionist israeli firsters, telling them how much they love them and our bond is unshakable and we will use our military to fight israel's enemies.....then I see jews against zionism, saying that zionism is a political movement and not in step with judaism....i see the porn kings and queens, zionist israeli firsters, spreading smut all over the country.....then i see movie directors, actors, and movie industry owners, all zionist israeli firsters, spreading anti muslim hatred all over the united states and the world and giving the zionist view of america's history....then i see the slave ship owners back in the slave trade days in america, almost all of them zionist israeli firsters, making money galore off the slave trade and then blaming it on white males......then i see ben bernanke and allen greenspan and the rest of the board of governors of the federal reserve, all zionist israeli firsters, that rents us money that is printed out of thin air and was the cause of the great depression and the housing bubble,......I have seen almost all of our congress swear fealty to israel....then i read in the bible where jesus called you sons of your father, the father of lies and could not here the truth because you don't know the truth and I see this as truth everyday on these forums.....the list goes on and on and on....so excuse me if i don't appreciate what zionism is doing for america or the whole world and i sure don't appreciate us giving your country aid while your people are hurting us....i hope you understand......jesus loves you by the way.....
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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not to mention what michael chertoff is doing for us with the tsa, making people get groped and strip searched or going through some privacy killing radiation machine and making a killing selling these machines to the government, selling them through his own company... i bet he's laughing his but off at all the stupid goyim.....and we're giving his country aid to the tunes of billions of dollars so he can keep his position in the government....really sucks.....



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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"You people"?? Who are you people?

Where is your criticism of Hamas and Arab countries for attacking Israel?

As for the rest of your speech its much beter in the origional german form, although your version lacks the oratory style of the period... I guess beggars cant be choosers....



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by patternfinder
 


"You people"?? Who are you people?

Where is your criticism of Hamas and Arab countries for attacking Israel?

As for the rest of your speech its much beter in the origional german form, although your version lacks the oratory style of the period... I guess beggars cant be choosers....



they never would be attacking israel if israel wouldn't have stolen that land and pushed everyone out... but i guess that's your best attack at me so i feel flattered lol



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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If the Arabs didnt attack Israel time and again we wouldnt be having this debate.

If the Soviets didnt influence arab countries in 67 to mass on Israels borders, then they would not have need to launch a preemptive attack against arab countries.

The Siani, Golan hieghts, west bank, gaza...

I love how Arabs / Palestinians pick a fight time and again, lose time and again, and whine to the UN about it time and again. Here is a hint - Dont start a war you cant finish, and certainly dont start a war and then cry because you lost territory.

Maybe Arab countries should have accepted the origional partition that created a Jewish AND Palestinian state. Since the arabs are greeedy, they opted to want it all and have made every attempt to wipe israel off the map.

By the way nice redirect and obfuscation.

Who are "you people"? You used the term so please explain to the rest of us.

MY comments werent a personal attack at all. I was merely pointing out that your hatred for the Jews and Israel, and your choice of words to make that point, was better in the origional German form when Hitler gave that speech.

Israel is not the only country in the MIddle East and Jews arent the only religion there either.

Something you and radical muslims should grasp the concept of.

Ladies and Gentleman - In anticipation of patternfinders response -

und jetzt das furher



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by patternfinder
 


If the Arabs didnt attack Israel time and again we wouldnt be having this debate.

If the Soviets didnt influence arab countries in 67 to mass on Israels borders, then they would not have need to launch a preemptive attack against arab countries.

The Siani, Golan hieghts, west bank, gaza...

I love how Arabs / Palestinians pick a fight time and again, lose time and again, and whine to the UN about it time and again. Here is a hint - Dont start a war you cant finish, and certainly dont start a war and then cry because you lost territory.

Maybe Arab countries should have accepted the origional partition that created a Jewish AND Palestinian state. Since the arabs are greeedy, they opted to want it all and have made every attempt to wipe israel off the map.

By the way nice redirect and obfuscation.

Who are "you people"? You used the term so please explain to the rest of us.

MY comments werent a personal attack at all. I was merely pointing out that your hatred for the Jews and Israel, and your choice of words to make that point, was better in the origional German form when Hitler gave that speech.

Israel is not the only country in the MIddle East and Jews arent the only religion there either.

Something you and radical muslims should grasp the concept of.

Ladies and Gentleman - In anticipation of patternfinders response -

und jetzt das furher



i have to give you the same compliment, nice redirect.......still doesn't take from the fact that zionists got that country by hook and crook.....I know you won't listen to this, but someone might, so I'll post it...here is a bit of history about how israel became a nation...and I still don't like the fact that we are aiding israel in the least...





posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Thats nice...

Who are "You people"?

Or would answering that question force you to admit you hate ISrael and all Jews?

You opened the door, please answer the question.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by patternfinder
 


Thats nice...

Who are "You people"?

Or would answering that question force you to admit you hate ISrael and all Jews?

You opened the door, please answer the question.



ha ha, what? you aren't going to try to debunk what i said? let's stay to the point and try to keep from redirecting the issues.....you are hanging on to one little tiny question, grasping with all of your might.....you can't refute any of what i said and you won't listen to the video because your aim isn't to learn anything new....it's just to use the same ole tired nazi attack.....I'm not a nazi or anything more or less than a man that loves his country and doesn't want to see the zionists ruin it for their agenda.....arguing with you is like going in circles....i got my point across, you know what it is and that's all that needs to be said.....i give my opinion on something i care about passionately and you attack it...that's what you're good at, and maybe your not so good at it, but you do try hard.....this thread is about israel getting billions of dollars from us, let's keep it on track instead of attacking someone because they have vented their feelings....



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Who are "you people"?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Who are "you people"?



off topic, please try to stay on the topic of the post.......
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by patternfinder
 


Who are "you people"?



off topic, please try to stay on the topic of the post.......
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Who are "You people"? Its not off topic since your the one who used the phrase. I would like an answer from you, who are "you people". Screaming off topic is a typical obfuscation technique that some other use as well.

Please answer the question. When your done feel free to tie it back into the conversation we were having before you derailed it with your speech.

Who are "You people"?



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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ok, one more time....let's stay on topic instead of attacking people or i will be forced to contact one of the administrators....thank you and have a nice day



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder
ok, one more time....let's stay on topic instead of attacking people or i will be forced to contact one of the administrators....thank you and have a nice day


Who are "You people" Why did you use that term in your speech?

How does the term You people" factor into your speech - please put it in context.

and as I said, once your done explaining who "you people" are you can tie it back into the conversation of aid for ISrael.

Its not off topic at all... You opened the door, so please answer the question.

Or will answering that question paint you as a biggot, which would result in a loss of credability in this thread?
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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zionistts and pro-israelis and other ich interests of the sort are to blame
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Amassuo
reply to post by Xcathdra
 


zionistts and pro-israelis and other ich interests of the sort are to blame
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by patternfinder
ok, one more time....let's stay on topic instead of attacking people or i will be forced to contact one of the administrators....thank you and have a nice day


Who are "You people" Why did you use that term in your speech?

How does the term You people" factor into your speech - please put it in context.

and as I said, once your done explaining who "you people" are you can tie it back into the conversation of aid for ISrael.

Its not off topic at all... You opened the door, so please answer the question.

Or will answering that question paint you as a biggot, which would result in a loss of credability in this thread?
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very interesting that you would keep asking me that....
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posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Amassuo
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zionistts and pro-israelis and other ich interests of the sort are to blame
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Thank you for your view.. However the question is not directed at you.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Just like our own government to support a country and let their own go to waste. I can't state the truth of the matter, but imho, there are only two reasons our government would continue to supply them with weapons and cash...
1. Religion. Are not they the lsraelites, the chossen ones? And would it not be wise, if religion was the truth, to be on their side?
2. A foot hold in the muslim world. With a foot hold, we would be able to place our soldiers quickly into harms way, so to speak. We would be able to mobile our forces to obtain the riches of oil.
Imho...We should let the middle east be. We should be more worried about taking care of our own. If there is a major war, and america has not taken care of it's own people, where in the world will they get the troops to fight their war? From the homeland? I have never been one to truely believe in the NWO. But with all that is happening now...Someone, or some group is getting very rich and powerful over our suffering and the world. Granted, we are a country that has plenty of luxery, but will that same comfort afford us to be ruled by another country because of a guilty conscious? Something to think about. And just so you know, I am not religious. As one who trained to be a preist was told by a preist..."You have not enough faith". It is always a good thing to ask why we have placed our own selves into this situation.



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by Amassuo
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zionistts and pro-israelis and other ich interests of the sort are to blame
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Thank you for your view.. However the question is not directed at you.



then who is it directed to? can Amassuo not have a say on this topic?.....sounds fishy to me



posted on Aug, 7 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Then why did it take you so long to admit that? Does it in some way undermine your argument in this thread? Are you afraid you might lose support of others if you had to admit your comment was a biggoted one?

I still dont think thats what you meant, but getting the truth out of you is about as possible as getting it out of PressTV.

Btw the 100 billion is to high. Its around 65 billion since 1948 according to Fas.org. The entire foreign aid budget of the US makes up 1/10 of 1 percent of the total US budget.

Since China and Russia can give aid to Syria and Iran, and Syria and Iran can give aid to Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel has every right to receive funding from countries as well.

When you guys argue a double standard, its just pathetic.

What you are conviently leaving out is the bulk of that aid money comes back into the United States when they purchase weapons and what not from us (not all but the bulk, again according to FAS.org).

If we cut all aiud to Israel, then we should cut all aid to the Palestinians as well.




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