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5.8 Million Israelis Get 100 Billion In US Tax Dollars While American States Are Falling Apart

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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by witwayta
How have we gotten to this point?

We need to look no further than REV 2:9

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

This very Synagogue of Satan that Jesus spoke about and revealed to us in Revelations now dominates our media, educational & religious systems allowing them the means to brainwash us. They have infiltrated the military and courts to silence us. They dominate the energy and finances in order to control us and once they complete getting full control of our food, water and pharmaceuticals they will eliminate us.

And for this we thank them by sending billions of dollars a year to ensure their agenda is fulfilled.

Wow talk about paying for your own demise. Wake up people!!!


I clearly see now, Goebbels raised some excellent students.
2nd line.




posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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This is a must see!!!!!!!! Israelis are getting tired of their government......they are saying game over.........the israeli awakening........


You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you?
www.france24.com...



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
No, you do us a favor and compare it to todays current situation of the world and then get back to us. You're barking up the wrong tree. Remember 2+2=4 even if a liar tells you that.

So if I go hunt a white whale, that would make Moby Dick prophetic?

Who said anything about prophesying? Let my show you the analogy you'd have to make in order not to twist what I said to suit your own delusions; "So if someone said jews hunt whales, and then it is proven that jews do hunt whales then that would mean the original statement was correct?", YES it does. I merely stated regardless of whether they were written by jews, they are being acted on by jews, and that is what we are getting at. Nice try though.


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
I am not arguing that someone is following or not following the protocols of Zion. I am arguing that the way that they are written is a hoax designed to inflame hatred of Jews.

lol, I know what you're attempting to argue, but you've missed the point all along, when we're saying the 'protocols of zion' are "real"/"true" we're pointing to the fact they are being acted on. And if they were not being acted on by jews(regardless of their source) then you might have more of a case in regards to the hole hoax issue.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw In regards to the biased aid America gives to Isreal that you say you dont care if it's stopped atm under the current circumstances, what if America wasnt in so much financial trouble, should Israel still get billions of dollars

Yes, along with every other country we give billions of dollars to.

OH, so if your jewish brothers cant have American tax payer handouts, then no-one earth should be helped either, even if their alot poorer and have 10-50 times the population, have children dying from starvation, etc? why would I expect a jew to say any different, stupid me.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw while they ignore UN resolutions

Because only Israel ignores UN resolutions. Amirite?

Israel is in a league of it's own on this one in relation to justifying America donating them money, one of the many examples would be that America has just torn apart a country(Iraq) on false pretenses that had violated(and was at the time in violation of) less UN sanctions than Israel. So one country gets to watch their innocent children get killed while the other gets handed out money and weapons. If you can't admit the hypocrisy of American foreign policy when it comes to Isreal then perhaps you should get an eduaction.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw and have been proven to intentionally kill American people and attack it's assets and blame muslims just to get Americans to finance , fight and die for thier cause?

Proof?

You've got to be kidding right?
Lavon affair-Operation Susannah-In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring

USS Liberty-Six fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel and Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military machine: "a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to accomplish mission". Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act."
I guess a jew will dance around calling anti-semite and saying lack of evidence here too? No surprise.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw stop dancing around the truth

As for the truth.
I have provided facts.

You've provided nothing whatsoever that would even come close to negating anything I've said, and more to the point nothing whatsoever to provide any substantiation as to why Israel in its current economic situation, its little population, its flagrant disregard for UN sanctions, its proven track record of false flag operations against the US and her allies, should get even one cent of American tax payers money over other countires with a higher population, a worse economy, a better track record for obeying international law, and not using false flag operations to kill Americans(and her assets) in order to drag America into killing more innocent people.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
So who is the one dancing again?


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
You call these facts?

Yerp, and I'm still waiting for you to put foward one fact that would justify Israel deserving a single American dollar from the tax payers rather than doing the typical convenient "anti-semite" dance.

Originally posted by Haxsaw
Just remember muslim arabs are semites too


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Antisemitism refers specifically to prejudice against Jews alone and in general, despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.The term anti-Semitic has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is not widely accepted....
Using the common usage and etymology . . . Jews hate themselves. Got it.

As you just quoted it has been used on occasions to include bigotry against other semites, but because in general the jews are the most hated race in history and it's more than often directed at them then we are not allowed to use the word/s "anti-semite" how indeed it/they should be used, and that is to label those "who show bigotry against semites(all semites including arabs, the jews dont have a monopoly on the english language)? I love the way in typical zionist fashion rather than directly dealing with the topic at hand you attempt to pull the blind in all sorts of misguided directions. A forked tongue wont work in here, so quit before you dig your hole deeper.

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-Almost wherever the jews went, they became legendary for their crookedness and their diabolical ingenuity in taking advantage of those with whom they come in contact. As a direct result of their chicanery they were expelled from one nation after another.Jews were evicted from England in 1290 AD, (returned 1655); France 1306 (returned 1682);Hungary 1360 – 1582; Belgium 1370 – 1700; Slovakia 1380 – 1744. They were also thrown out of the Netherlands, Austria, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Bavaria and other nations in Europe in the same time frame. They even killed their own prophets.


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Wait . . . I thought we were anti-Zionist. Now we are anti-Jewish?

Jump at any possibility you can get hey, lol. Does mentioning these facts bother you? Clearly it does, well guess what I dont care. We cant all play your games and hide facts just because the person putting them on the table may erroneously be labelled an "anti-semite". They are facts, see if you can deal with them, they all have an interesting story behind them too that is relevant to how jews have taken over America today, which in turn results in threads like this. Let me guess a Zionist jewish American doesnt want to see threads like this or hear facts about atrocities commited by other zionists, suprise suprise.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-The jewish Rothschilds (and other top corrupt families in a lesser way) financed Karl Marx to write his Das Kapital . The Rothschilds secrets are closely gaurded, this closeness is further seen in that of the 18 marriages made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s grandchildren 16 were contracted between first cousins.

So evil Jews are responsible for Marxism, Communism, Nazism, Capitalism, Republicanism, Socialism, and the list goes on?

Again, look at what has been said and see if you can deal with one issue at a time, dont give us your forked tongue.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-In the late 1940s the Zionists took over Palestine and drove out 700,000 people from their homes through widespread acts of terrorism. Among those events was the sadistic massacre(one of many) of 254 Palestinian mostly old men, women and children at Deir Yassin. It was an especially vicious, cold-blooded massacre characterized by Jews cutting apart the bellies of pregnant women. After the bloodletting,the murderers then purposely publicized the event so as to make the people flee in panic from their homes and businesses from which they still haven't been allowed to return.

--The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine

Give us a break, militias of the Irgun (headed by terrorist Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village was outside of the area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State. They were on their own land and were attacked. This really looks like they were just out to relieve a blockade doesnt it.

Another act of terrorism orchestrated by the same terrorist and mass murderer Menachim Begin who went on to be prime minister of Israel.


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-Former Jewish Secretary of State Madeleine Albright called the death of 500,000 Iraqi children from starvation due to UN sanctions, "acceptable."

FIrst off, Albright was raised Catholic, but converted to Episcopalianism at the time of her marriage in 1959. Albright did not learn until late in life that her parents were Jewish.

How convenient on both of them, clearly that still makes Madeleine Halfbright a jew, and a massive lol @ her not knowing both her parents were jews, yeah right, ok.


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-In 1973 Israeli fighter jets shot down a French piloted Libyan passenger airliner near Sinai Peninsula (killing 111 people) that was was of course from relying on instrument navigation alone due to a massive sandstorm.

-Friendly fire. Happens all the time, and not just with Israel. How many US, Australian, British, or even Canadian troops have been killed by friendly fire?

If Israel didnt have a track record of terrorism we might almost buy that.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-According to Victor Ostrovski, former Isreali intelligence agent for the Mossad said that in 1986 Israel caused America to wrongly go to war and militarily attack another nation. The Mossad planted a transmitter in Tripoli, Libya and then broadcast terrorist messages in Libyan code indicating Libyan responsibility for killing two Americans in the bombing of the La Belle discothèque in Germany. (It was later proven that Libya had nothing to do with the bombing). By use of this fraud, Israel induced the American bombing of Libya. American bombs wrecked havoc there. One of those killed was the infant daughter of the Libyan President.

Those damn Jews, playing the same game that everyone else plays.
Because the CIA, KGB, etc. don't exist and do things like this. Only Jews.

No you're talking with that forked tongue again, and wow, so you admitted one, that's a first, and then push it off sarcasticll yas if it's justified because others do it, typical.


Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-The babylonian Talmud(documents compiled by the jewish heirarchy around the 3rd and 5th centuries) directly teaches things like:
~Sanhedrin 55b: “It is permitted to have sexual intercourse with a girl three years and one day old.” (Sexual relations with three year olds are clearly permitted also in: Yebamoth 12a, 57b, 60b; Abodah Zarah 37a; and Kethuboth 39a.)
~Yebamoth 59b: “Though the hire of a harlot may not be given to God, yet if the harlot is paid for bestiality [sex with an animal], her money may be accepted [by God].”
~Sanhedrin 54b: “If a man commits sodomy with a boy less than nine years old, they are not guilty of sodomy.”
~Sanhedrin 59b: “Sexual intercourse with a boy less than eight years old is not fornication.”
~Kethoboth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a girl less than three is nothing.”
~Sanhedrin 43a: “Jesus was guilty of sorcery and apostasy; he deserved execution. The disciples of Jesus deserve to be killed.”
~Yebamoth 63a on Genesis 2:23: “Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.”
~Sanhedrin 76b on Exodus 21:12: “A man is not guilty of murder if he causes a poisonous snake to kill...a snake should be executed for murder, while the man goes free.”
~Kiddushin 49b declares that: “Israelites possess 90% of all wisdom. The other 10% is spread out among the Gentiles.”
~Yebamoth 98a: “All Gentile children are legally bastards, since Gentiles are only animals.”
~Baba Mezia 114b: “Gentile girls are in a state of uncleanness from birth, and marriage with them is prohibited.”
~Baba Bathra 54b: “Property of Gentiles is like the desert; whoever gets there first gets it."
~Baba Kamma 38a: “Gentiles are outside the legal protection of the Law of Israel.
~Sanhedrin 52b: “Adultery is not forbidden...with the wife of a Gentile, because Moses only forbids adultery with a ‘neighbor’s wife’, and Gentiles are not neighbors.”
~Menahoth 43b: “A Jewish male should thank God for not making him a woman or a Gentile."
~Baba Bathra 16b: “The birth of a girl is a sad occurrence.”
~Aboth 1:5: “It is not good to talk to women, not even your own wife.”
~Gittin 91a: “It is permissible to divorce your wife if she burns your dinner, or if you see a prettier girl.”

Educate Yourself
Either misinterpretations, or flat out lies in all of em. I have already gone through that list quite a few times with Stormfront members like yourself, here on ATS

No, clearly you need to educate yourself of the BABYLONIAN Talmud, I'm calling flat out lies from you or misinterpretation. Take it from a Rabbi, who speaks better hebrew than yourself. Read Sanhedrin 55b of the BABYLONIAN Talmud from the link below where it has been transliterated into "A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition(sexual intercourse),.........". This is just one of the many examples from the quotes, enjoy, you might want a bucket handy to throw-up in.

BABYLONIAN TALMUD TRANSLATED H. FREEDMAN, B.A., Ph.D & RABBI DR I. EPSTEIN B.A., Ph.D., D. Lit.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-You can be locked up in some countries just for denying the holocaust

You can be locked up for a lot of crazy things in any country.

I'll take this as admission of surrender(like most of your replies), where you have absolutley nothing to say except to show something just as shocking in order to justify the unjustifiable. That hole is getting deeper, must be dark in there.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-Thousands of jews fought for the Nazi's and in approximately 20 cases, jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of these soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

And plenty of other different religions too. And tehn?

As I said originally some of the quotes, etc, were from another thread, and the facts I gave in this instance were just to show any mislead individuals who were under the assumption Hitler hated ALL jews, this proving that that clearly was not the case regardless of anything he said or did.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-The satanic church was founded by the jew Anton Lavey

Oh noez. Someone of Jewish descent started his own brand of Satanism. I guess Jews are not allowed to make their own life choices, unless they conform with what we think?

Obviously he can think what he wants, fact remains coincidentally a jew happened to found the church of Satan in America, like it or not.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-when actor Marlon Brando said that the American media was run by jews, the American jewish media made a huge issue of it, and he was forced to apoligize, the same as they did to Mel Gibson.

I dunno . . . maybe because those statements reek of anti-Jewism (which both people are pretty well known for.)
No-one can help it if truth comes across to you as anti-jewism, that's just a personal issue you're going to have to live with one way or another.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO.

Proof other than a last name?

Oh, even though their last name proves they are a jew, whether by race and/or religion. Oh, that's right how could the media be run by jews.
Lets see what some jews in the media have said themselves, you might take it from your brother better, so heres just one example: ( SOME MORE HERE )
Joel Stein(columnist for the Los Angeles Times newspaper and regular contributor to Time magazine): Stein says that Americans who think the Jews do not control Hollywood and the media are just plain "dumb."
"Jews totally run Hollywood." Stein proudly admits. He then goes on to provide a long, long list of Hollywood/media chieftains-all Jews!-to prove his point. On his list: Fox News President Peter Chernin; Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey; Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor; Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton; Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer; CBS CEO Leslie Moonves; MGM Chairman Harry Sloan; and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker.
That's just the top brass at the studios. Then there are the actors and entertainers - predominantly Jews, from Barbra Streisand and Gwyneth Paltrow, from Adam Sandler to Ben Stiller...Jew, Jew and Jew again. As Stein wryly remarks, even the head of the Actors' Union, the Screen Actors Guild, Alan Rosenberg, is a Jew.
"The Jews are so dominant," writes Stein, "I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies." "But lo and behold," Stein says, "even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew!"
"As a proud Jew," says Joel Stein, "I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood."

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Haxsaw
-In 1967, following a war between Israel and the countries of Syria, Jordan and Egypt, Isreal military occupied the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. That year the United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 242 calling on Isreal to withdraw from the occupied territories. Isreal has yet to comply, and has currently violated more than 68(count 'em, 68) UN resolutions and thanks to America with its vetoes they are yet to have any UN sanctions put on them.

Security Council passed, but it failed hard in General Assembly. Please learn how the UN works.

According to the previous President of America, George Bush, it doesnt work at all, anyway, nice try, after months of debate in the Security Council and General Assembly before, during and after the 1967 Six Day War, United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 was passed. The only debate between the Palestinians and the Israelis is an interpretation of the resolution, both parties have agreed on numerous occasions that it should be a basis for all peace negotiations. The problem comes in when we have Israel playing its usual sematics with it's forked tongue and still disregarding international law that has been clearly agreed upon prior to this resolution that states no land can be obtained by conquest. Heres a bit more on it to educate yourself with. LINK . Dont bother even debating this one with me, at the end of the day you'll no doubt say the Israelis/jews are in the right, I however, as a non-jew and a non-arab can see the truth behind the issue(like most others), and that is that Israels governement/military are a bunch of snakes and cowards who'll use any excuse to continue persecuting the Palestinians.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
With that, I will end. I am bored. You make this waaaay to easy.

Not understanding doesnt qualify as passing, in other words of course it's easy when you fail to understand and/or use that forked tongue. Good to see you did'nt bother trying to quote all that I said, as you know you would of bitten off more than you can chew, and 95% of what you bothered attempting to negate was more comedy than negation.
Anyway, lets summarise you view on the thread to help keep on track: you as a jewish American think Israel should keep getting money, and if they dont then no country should get money, even if their population is 10-50 times that of Israels, has starving people dying every day, and is 100 times poorer than Israel. Oh, and dont forget jews dont worship money, they really need it.

I'm sure you know no sane man/women will agree with you.




Originally posted by AlienView
WOW! Most informative post we have seen in a long time! Just when we thought the American Nazi Party was dead and no longer effective, they spring their ugly heads [on this site, in this thread!], show their alliance with terrorists and other psychopaths and begin their rallying call - the world is controlled by the Jews and all that is wrong in the world is caused by the Jews [they site the Elders of the Protocols of Zion, bible for all Nazis]. After all they control the banks, the media, own all the money, etc., etc. And this post is solid, none of that mamby-pamby its just Israel we are talking about [even though the post started thay way], not the Jews, though 'moderates' have implied that, one saying its just the rich Jews, not the others [implication: if we can take all the Jews money, put them back into ghettos, and maybe concentration camps all will be well].

lol, here we go the old "anyone who provides facts and figures behind any jewish atrocities should be labelled nazi's, locked up and put behind bars", and then the typical shenanigans of reminding us about the concentration camps. I'd say "lame", but it's beyond that..

This only works when your audience is deaf, dumb, and blind, so you'll have to take that dribble to another site. We’ve mentioned that there are jews against the illegal state of Israel and the abhorrent teachings of Zionism.
How about you take your thoughts to www.jewsagainstzionism.com... . lol




Originally posted by tangonine
Israel SHOULD absolutely get the bulk of our support, as they're our only real ally in the middle east. Missing your point, or you failed to make one,.. either way

Allies dont attack allies in flase flag operations as Israel have been proven to do multiple times. Israel is an ally to American jews, not America.

Originally posted by tangonine
My wife is a palestinian christian arab, my father in law was from the West Bank, so don't actually think you can throw out broad generalities and talking points. Research, think, THEN post.

I'm sure you are aware of the many innocent christians that have died at the hands of the Israelis then. Then again, I doubt it.

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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Do you know Jews never work in Labor Force. If you are a Jew, they raise funds for you, help you get training how to run a business and then help you buy a business in line with your training and if you need finances, no problem there either. They line up all the free funding sources first (Government charity ) and then line up Stock market or Banking with favorable terms. It doesn't end there. A Jew always buy from a Jew even if the product is comparatively expensive. I saw these things about 31 years ago. All you have to do is to pick up a business and research it. Like Sears. Who owns it. Who controls it, and who are the Board of Directors are? When you do that, eventually a picture will merge. Problem is, nobody wants to do the hard work. And if you try to organize them, they turn against you.



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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It's easy to spend money that isn't yours. The US needs to redact the foreign relations and start fixing problems here at home, starting with our thief leaders. None of the money is benefiting the tax payer with monies being spent with no oversight. No one in their right mind would do this unless #1 they want our system to fail #2 They are funneling money and stealing it. #3 All the above. I'm not buying the relations excuse anymore. You don't spend more money in a failing economy unless your have a secret agenda. I'm not buying what they are selling and I suggest you don't either. We need to put the USA back on the map and quit buying foreign products too. Just look on the tag if it isn't made in the USA then don't buy it! It's a 2 lane highway folks it works both ways! If your going hurt me then I am going to hurt you buy not buying your product! Break off all relations that's the way I see it. I don't know about any of you all out there, but I am tired of having the blood sucked out of me by these parasites. It's time to step up and dunk these louses.



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Akasirus
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And what would you know about defending your country from thousands of terrorists on a daily basis? You have personal experience doing this? Being able to own a gun or not is completely irrelevant, but I suppose it's either to attack the author than actually refute his statements.


Maybe ask a few Palestinians what it's like to be surrounded by heavily armed terrorists on a daily basis..
And all the majority have are rocks to throw at Tanks,Helicopters and Jets..



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder

obama is pro israel as you can get look up obama aipac speeches


Is that why he decided to increase the aid to Palestinians to $400 million in 2010? The same economic aid given to Israel?



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder

first they deny, then they try to poke fun of you, and the last step is loose to you.....then they forget all about it tomorrow and come back with the same remarks as yesterday..........the way of the jewish troll


Oh right, so now I must accept the stupid comment made by that other member, and just because I disagree with you my argument is not valid?...


Perhaps you didn't notice, but the first thing I said was that ALL FOREIGN AID SHOULD BE STOPPED, but this bashing fest, and lies being used by certain members are not the truth...



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Amassuo

oh yes very true, however a slow mind does repeat everything already discussed in this thread so BRO get reading before spreading non-factual information trying to defend the murder of children


Really?... show me which part of what I said is not true. Stop making generalizations and learn to point out what you claim is wrong instead of resorting to claiming I must be slow minded...


BTW, every video I gave shows what Palestinians, and the Palestinian authority is doing to brainwash Palestinian children into strapping bombs on their chests and becoming suicide bombers by killing Israelies. Are you claiming this is not true?...

Are there Israeli soldiers that have shot at Palestinian children? Unfortunately yes they have, but not all of them have done it because "they are evil". You try living in a country where your neighbor sends young children with bombs strapped to their chests to kill you, and tell me there is not going to be anyone shooting at some of these children when they don't stop walking towards a group of Israeli soldiers...

Kind of ironic that people like you like to bash at Israelies because some Israeli soldiers have shot at children who were told to stop, and unfortunately for one reason or another the child didn't stop and could have, or had a bomb strapped to their chest with the sole intent of killing those same Israeli soldiers. At the same time the same members, like you, SEEM to condone, or claim "it is not true" that the Palestinian authority, and what many Palestinians do to brainwash Palestinian children to become suicide bombers...


Who is really the murderer of children? those who brainwash children into becoming suicide bombers strapping bombs to their chest, or the those who fear for their lives when a Palestinian child is told to stop walking towards Israeli soldiers because such a child could have a bomb strapped to his/her chest?...

Try to put yourself in such a situation and then get back to me.



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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

Maybe ask a few Palestinians what it's like to be surrounded by heavily armed terrorists on a daily basis..
And all the majority have are rocks to throw at Tanks,Helicopters and Jets..


Sure...and the bombs being strapped on Palestinian children to murder as many Israelis as possible are just "rocks being thrown at tanks"... And the bombs that are used continuously on Israeli restaurants, Israeli buses, and other Israeli places are just "rocks being thrown at tanks"... Not to mention the rockets being fired from Palestinian positions must also be just "rocks being thrown at tanks"...

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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Is that why he decided to increase the aid to Palestinians to $400 million in 2010? The same economic aid given to Israel?


It's a bit dishonest to only mention economic aid and NOT include total aid..

As you are aware, total aid is more like 10 times what the Palestinians get and that's if Israel don't get the free Fighter Jets.



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

It's a bit dishonest to only mention economic aid and NOT include total aid..

As you are aware, total aid is more like 10 times what the Palestinians get and that's if Israel don't get the free Fighter Jets.


Really?... Is that why I gave the actual figures before?... i was talking about ECONOMIC AID... The Palestinian authority is the official government of "what could be Palestine", and as part of their charter they have had as a goal to destroy Israel. You would think perhaps that is in great part the reason why the Palestinians have not been given Mililtary aid no?...
Naaa...
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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Sure...and the bombs being strapped on Palestinian children to murder as many Israelis as possible are just "rocks being thrown at tanks"... And the bombs that are used continuously on Israeli restaurants, Israeli buses, and other Israeli places are just "rocks being thrown at tanks"... Not to mention the rockets being fired from Palestinian positions must also be just "rocks being thrown at tanks"...


Don't just report on one sides actions.
Please include Israel's killings..
Maybe even a figure of deaths from BOTH sides to compare..

Palestine is being invaded through settlements which are clearly condemned by the international community INCLUDING the US who have even offered bribes to stop the illegal invasion..

Palestine has little choice but to use what is available to them because their is also an illegal blockade in place..

What would you do in their situation?
Just bend over and take it??



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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You were the one to claim that "ALL THE MAYORITY OF PALESTINIANS HAVE ARE ROCKS TO THROW AT TANKS AND JETS"... It wasn't me...


As for the "illegal blockade"... Let's not go there again...

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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Really?... Is that why I gave the actual figures before?... i was talking about ECONOMIC AID... The Palestinian authority is the official government of "what could be Palestine", and as part of their charter they have had as a goal to destroy Israel. You would think perhaps that is in great part the reason why the PAlestinians have not been given Mililtary aid no?... Naaa...


Your analogy doesn't fit the facts..

The FACT is,
Israel have killed FAR more Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israelis.
Israel have destroyed far more of Palestine than Palestine have destroyed Israel.

Seems Israels unspoken charter is the one that should be addressed and yet THEY receive vast military aid to help them.


By the way, they also have a well known about nuclear arsenal which should preclude them from ANY US aid..
We ALL know that as FACT.



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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You were the one to claim that "ALL THE MAYORITY OF PALESTINIANS HAVE ARE ROCKS TO THROW AT TANKS AND JETS"... It wasn't me...


You disagree that the majority of Palestinians are unarmed???

Care to show proof of that?



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

Your analogy doesn't fit the facts..


Really?...and this according to the same person who claim "all the mayority of Palestinians have are rocks to throw at tanks and jets"?...




Originally posted by backinblack
The FACT is,
Israel have killed FAR more Palestinians than Palestinians have killed Israelis.
Israel have destroyed far more of Palestine than Palestine have destroyed Israel.

Seems Israels unspoken charter is the one that should be addressed and yet THEY receive vast military aid to help them.


Care to show the facts?... The Israelis use precision targeting, at least most of the time, to get at Palestinian terrorists, and of course when such terrorists hide behind their own Palestinian children and unfortunately once in a while some children die it is the fault of the Israeli and not the Paletinian terrorist who is using his own children and family to hide...


Originally posted by backinblack
By the way, they also have a well known about nuclear arsenal which should preclude them from ANY US aid..
We ALL know that as FACT.


Perhaps you should be complaining to both France and Russia for that since it was them who gave Israel the capacity of having such nuclear weapons... Not to mention the fact that Israel has not used an atomic weapon against Palestinians, but the Palestinian authority is using every weapon it can get against Israel, including Palestinian children...
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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

You were the one to claim that "ALL THE MAYORITY OF PALESTINIANS HAVE ARE ROCKS TO THROW AT TANKS AND JETS"... It wasn't me...


You disagree that the majority of Palestinians are unarmed???

Care to show proof of that?


I disagree with YOUR CLAIM that all the mayority of Palestinians have are rocks to throw at tanks, since they have used BOMBS, ROCKETS, and FIREARMS to kill Israelis, and even tourists travelling to Israel...
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posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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I disagree with YOUR CLAIM that all the mayority of Palestinians have are rocks to throw at tanks, since they have used BOMBS, ROCKETS, and FIREARMS to kill Israelis, and even tourists travelling to Israel...


The majority use Bombs,Rockets and Firearms.


You're delusional and the figures are NOT supporting your stance..

And BTW, where are the Palestinians supposed to attack from apart from civilian areas?

It's not like they are allowed or capable of building military facilities with a blockade in place..

Let them buy decent weapons and I bet they also stop using suicide bombers and useless homemade rockets..
Fact is, you can only use what's available..



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Ok... Let's turn this around and try to show you how ridiculous is your point... Are you claiming now that the mayority of Israelis are using firearms, rockets, and aircraft fighters?...



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