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5.8 Million Israelis Get 100 Billion In US Tax Dollars While American States Are Falling Apart

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Haxsaw


No, you do us a favor and compare it to todays current situation of the world and then get back to us. You're barking up the wrong tree. Remember 2+2=4 even if a liar tells you that.


So if I go hunt a white whale, that would make Moby Dick prophetic?

I am not arguing that someone is following or not following the protocols of Zion. I am arguing that the way that they are written is a hoax designed to inflame hatred of Jews.


In regards to the biased aid America gives to Isreal that you say you dont care if ti's stopped atm under the current circumstances, what if America wasnt in so much financial trouble, should Israel still get billions of dollars


Yes, along with every other country we give billions of dollars to.


while they ignore UN resolutions


Because only Israel ignores UN resolutions. Amirite?


and have been proven to intentionally kill American people and attack it's assets and blame muslims just to get Americans to finance , fight and die for thier cause?


Proof?


stop dancing around the truth


I like dancing, even though I lack any rhythm whatsoever. As for the truth.

I have provided facts.

I have yet to see any in reciprocation.

So who is the one dancing again?




posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 



Perhaps you should look into that. It is not that hard to find, if you stay away from the whole Zionists spiel.
What is even more interesting is Egypt as the second biggest receiver of US aid. But you won't question that, as you are solely "anti-zionist."
Let me reiterate. I am all for cutting every single piece of foreign aid until we can dig ourselves out of this hole.


Why would I stay away from the Zionist spiel, their influence is obvious..

As for Egypt, how much "aid" did they receive BEFORE they supported Israel?
The reason for their aid is obvious...


So you refuse to look for reasons why, that are unfiltered.

So much for denying ignorance.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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WOW! Most informative post we have seen in a long time! Just when we thought the American Nazi Party was dead and no longer effective, they spring their ugly heads [on this site, in this thread!], show their alliance with terrorists and other psychopaths and begin their rallying call - the world is controlled by the Jews and all that is wrong in the world is caused by the Jews [they site the Elders of the Protocols of Zion, bible for all Nazis]. After all they control the banks, the media, own all the money, etc., etc. And this post is solid, none of that mamby-pamby its just Israel we are talking about [even though the post started thay way], not the Jews, though 'moderates' have implied that, one saying its just the rich Jews, not the others [implication: if we can take all the Jews money, put them back into ghettos, and maybe concentration camps all will be well].

No, make no mistake about it, right from the beginning when op began, not by attacking American foreign aid world wide but only Israel, you know what he, she, or it meant. And as the thread continued, the in-crowd got out their pictures of the Fuhrer and began to party. And the rallying call six million dead Jews is only the beginning - they want to kill the rest!

This post should be a special warning to all those Jewish liberal politicians who support gun control, one of the Nazis first steps in the implementation of their agenda.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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What about all the billions given to the Palestinians, the Muslims, the North Koreans and others who hate America?






posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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oh you want them to take away our guns? not once was hitler glorifyed in this thread.

nice bs propaganda you got there that straight contradicts itself



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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theyre all killing thousands of innocent children daily in the name of god and claiming ancient land rights right?
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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stop lying you havent read anything in this thread



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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No, make no mistake about it, right from the beginning when op began, not by attacking American foreign aid world wide but only Israel, you know what he, she, or it meant.


Well I knew, did you ??

Israel is too small and too economically sound to be getting the level of aid they get..

Over $3 Billion this year and remember the additional 20 fighters discussed??

I'm in Australia..
Could you imagine the uproar if Australia received that much US aid ??
And we have 3 times the population and send our brave sons to fight in America's (or are they Israels) WARS, unlike Israel who only fight for themselves..



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 


Perhaps you should look into that. It is not that hard to find, if you stay away from the whole Zionists spiel.
What is even more interesting is Egypt as the second biggest receiver of US aid. But you won't question that, as you are solely "anti-zionist."
Let me reiterate. I am all for cutting every single piece of foreign aid until we can dig ourselves out of this hole.

Why would I stay away from the Zionist spiel, their influence is obvious..
As for Egypt, how much "aid" did they receive BEFORE they supported Israel?
The reason for their aid is obvious...


So you refuse to look for reasons why, that are unfiltered.
So much for denying ignorance.


I refuse to look into it


I have mate but where's YOUR links to "unfiltered" sources??
Where's your answers to question??

Are you saying that Balfour and Rothschild were NOT pushing the Zionist agenda ?

Are you saying Egypt did not receive more aid after aligning with Israel in a treaty ?



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by AlienView
WOW! Most informative post we have seen in a long time! Just when we thought the American Nazi Party was dead and no longer effective, they spring their ugly heads [on this site, in this thread!], show their alliance with terrorists and other psychopaths and begin their rallying call - the world is controlled by the Jews and all that is wrong in the world is caused by the Jews [they site the Elders of the Protocols of Zion, bible for all Nazis]. After all they control the banks, the media, own all the money, etc., etc. And this post is solid, none of that mamby-pamby its just Israel we are talking about [even though the post started thay way], not the Jews, though 'moderates' have implied that, one saying its just the rich Jews, not the others [implication: if we can take all the Jews money, put them back into ghettos, and maybe concentration camps all will be well].

No, make no mistake about it, right from the beginning when op began, not by attacking American foreign aid world wide but only Israel, you know what he, she, or it meant. And as the thread continued, the in-crowd got out their pictures of the Fuhrer and began to party. And the rallying call six million dead Jews is only the beginning - they want to kill the rest!

This post should be a special warning to all those Jewish liberal politicians who support gun control, one of the Nazis first steps in the implementation of their agenda.


Why are you bringing up the Jews when they aren't the problem. Zionist are the problem. You know the terrorist organization that somehow gained control of Israel. Jews want peace like everyone else it's the Zionist that crave power. And don't bring up Hitler when talking about Zionist because they worked with him to round up the Jews. And the op is right Israel should get no aid from the US it is one of the most advanced nations on the planet but still needs to beg money from us.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by awareness10
Israel is a criminal kabbal and must be stopped for good. Better 5.8 million go than 350 million in the usa.



It's obvious that you hate Israel, so your preceding comment, which I'll get to in a moment, loses all credibility from the outset.

Federal support to other nations has always been part of the budget, and in today's terms, 100Bn is chump change.

Having said that, the state and federal budgets are separate. You do understand that this is a Republic of 50 (not 57) states, yes? Each of those states is individually responsible for managing their own budgets, so if they fail to secure the funds they require to operate, on a governmental level, it's their fault, i.e., you can't blame me in Texas because California is destitute.

The federal government, according to our founding documents, isn't responsible for the well being of the individual states, those states bear that burden alone.

Simply put, your hate for the federal government's support of our only real ally in the middle east has absolutely nothing to do with the failure of our Republican states (if you fail to understand the distinction of Republican in this case, which I'll give 70/30 odds you will, it's on you) to manage their own houses.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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Federal support to other nations has always been part of the budget, and in today's terms, 100Bn is chump change.


Please name another advanced,economically sound country that receives the level of support Israel gets..



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack

Federal support to other nations has always been part of the budget, and in today's terms, 100Bn is chump change.


Please name another advanced,economically sound country that receives the level of support Israel gets..


Why should I, and how would it be relevant? Israel SHOULD absolutely get the bulk of our support, as they're our only real ally in the middle east. Missing your point, or you failed to make one,.. either way....
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by tangonine
Israel SHOULD absolutely get the bulk of our support, as they're our only real ally in the middle east. Missing your point, or you failed to make one,.. either way



Before Isreal was "our only ally" in the Middle East, we didn't have any enemies there.

Funny how that works...

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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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So being an ally justifys them to recieve funding to steal land and murder INNOCENT CHILDREN?
How about you pro-israelis, gather all the proofs to justify the murder of innocent children and we shall judge in a fair trial which weighs more in damage

dont bring up human shields, as someone already stated kids have to fight for their lives themselves after losing their whole families to israel.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Haxsaw

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with a few pertinent quotes and facts on the subject


You call these facts?

lol


Just remember muslim arabs are semites too,


--]Antisemitism refers specifically to prejudice against Jews alone and in general, despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.

The term anti-Semitic has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is not widely accepted.

Both terms anti-Semitism and antisemitism are in common use. Some scholars favor the unhyphenated form antisemitism to avoid possible confusion involving whether the term refers specifically to Jews, or to Semitic-language speakers as a whole.For example, Emil Fackenheim supported the unhyphenated spelling, in order to "dispel the notion that there is an entity 'Semitism' which 'anti-Semitism' opposes." Link--

*And to head you off at the pass. Learn to wiki and check the sources if you are unsure

I am sure that the "League of Antisemites" and the "Christian Social Union of the Parliament and of the Anti-Semitic Union of the Diet of Lower Austria" was against everyone in the Middle East, and not just Jews.



so when someone is throwing around the word "anti-semite" bare in mind that many jews are some of the biggest anti-semites on earth.


Using the common usage and etymology . . . Jews hate themselves. Got it.


Let's also bare in mind that not all jews on earth are corrupt, believe it or not there are many jews(practicing jews included) who are dead against the illegal state of Israel and dead against zionism, just google "jews against zionism" for more information. See if you can deal with the facts.


It depends on what you mean by Zionist.

If by Zionist, you mean supporting a state of Israel, an estimated 1 million out of 13 million Jews in the world are not Zionists. 1/13 of Jews are non Zionist by this definition.



SOME FACTS(so, so, much more relevant info I could put in here, but this is suffice for now):

-Almost wherever the jews went, they became legendary for their crookedness and their diabolical ingenuity in taking advantage of those with whom they come in contact. As a direct result of their chicanery they were expelled from one nation after another.Jews were evicted from England in 1290 AD, (returned 1655); France 1306 (returned 1682);Hungary 1360 – 1582; Belgium 1370 – 1700; Slovakia 1380 – 1744. They were also thrown out of the Netherlands, Austria, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Bavaria and other nations in Europe in the same time frame. They even killed their own prophets.


Wait . . . I thought we were anti-Zionist. Now we are anti-Jewish?

[quot]-The jewish Rothschilds (and other top corrupt families in a lesser way) financed Karl Marx to write his Das Kapital . The Rothschilds secrets are closely gaurded, this closeness is further seen in that of the 18 marriages made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s grandchildren 16 were contracted between first cousins.

So evil Jews are responsible for Marxism, Communism, Nazism, Capitalism, Republicanism, Socialism, and the list goes on?




-Non-Jewish Israelis cannot buy or lease land in Israel but a Jew from any country in the world is guaranteed citizenship in Israel and can purchase land.


BULL#

--The land-owning situation in Israel today is as follows: 80.4 percent is owned by the government, 13.1 percent is privately owned by the JNF, and 6.5 percent is evenly divided between private Arab and Jewish owners. Thus, the ILA administers 93.5 percent of the land in Israel.14 Put differently, 93.5 percent of the land is unavailable for private ownership; such land is sold neither to Jews nor to Arabs but is leased out by the ILA. Link --

--The Palestinian Authority is encouraging purchases of land in Israeli territory by wealthy Palestinians. It is a matter of Palestinian figures tied to the real estate business, and living mainly in London, who try to purchase homes and lands in Jerusalem through agents and lawyers who live mainly in Ramallah. (Yediot Ahranot, 3 January 1997)--


-In the late 1940s the Zionists took over Palestine and drove out 700,000 people from their homes through widespread acts of terrorism. Among those events was the sadistic massacre(one of many) of 254 Palestinian mostly old men, women and children at Deir Yassin. It was an especially vicious, cold-blooded massacre characterized by Jews cutting apart the bellies of pregnant women. After the bloodletting,the murderers then purposely publicized the event so as to make the people flee in panic from their homes and businesses from which they still haven't been allowed to return.


--The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine

. . .

The Jordanian newspaper Al Urdun published a survivor's account in 1955, which said the Palestinians had deliberately exaggerated stories about atrocities in Deir Yassin to encourage others to fight, stories that had caused them to flee instead. Everyone had reason to spread the atrocity narrative. The Irgun and Lehi wanted to frighten Arabs into fleeing; the Arabs wanted to provoke an international response; the Haganah wanted to tarnish the Irgun and Lehi; and the Arabs and the British wanted to malign the Jews.--


Both sides did their fair share of publicizing and belly aching.


-Former Jewish Secretary of State Madeleine Albright called the death of 500,000 Iraqi children from starvation due to UN sanctions, "acceptable."


FIrst off, Albright was raised Catholic, but converted to Episcopalianism at the time of her marriage in 1959. Albright did not learn until late in life that her parents were Jewish.

She was speaking for the UN, when she said we. Not people of Jewish descent.


-In 1973 Israeli fighter jets shot down a French piloted Libyan passenger airliner near Sinai Peninsula (killing 111 people) that was was of course from relying on instrument navigation alone due to a massive sandstorm.


Friendly fire. Happens all the time, and not just with Israel. How many US, Australian, British, or even Canadian troops have been killed by friendly fire?


-According to Victor Ostrovski, former Isreali intelligence agent for the Mossad said that in 1986 Israel caused America to wrongly go to war and militarily attack another nation. The Mossad planted a transmitter in Tripoli, Libya and then broadcast terrorist messages in Libyan code indicating Libyan responsibility for killing two Americans in the bombing of the La Belle discothèque in Germany. (It was later proven that Libya had nothing to do with the bombing). By use of this fraud, Israel induced the American bombing of Libya. American bombs wrecked havoc there. One of those killed was the infant daughter of the Libyan President.


Those damn Jews, playing the same game that everyone else plays.

Because the CIA, KGB, etc. don't exist and do things like this. Only Jews.


-Hypocritical America is helping Al Qaeda in Libya today, against this same Libyan President.


That I can agree with.


-The definition of 'Al-qaeda' is "the database', the same "database" of individuals America helped fund to fight Russia when it was convenient for them.


Yep. And so goes the politics of the world. Nothing new here.


-Many supposed Al Qaeda extremists like Adam Gadahn and Yousef Al-Khattab who have sprouted American hate all over youtube/etc have been proven to be jewish fakes/actors.


Proven?

Hardly. How dare a Jew switch religions and ideals..


-The babylonian Talmud(documents compiled by the jewish heirarchy around the 3rd and 5th centuries) directly teaches things like:
~Sanhedrin 55b: “It is permitted to have sexual intercourse with a girl three years and one day old.” (Sexual relations with three year olds are clearly permitted also in: Yebamoth 12a, 57b, 60b; Abodah Zarah 37a; and Kethuboth 39a.)
~Yebamoth 59b: “Though the hire of a harlot may not be given to God, yet if the harlot is paid for bestiality [sex with an animal], her money may be accepted [by God].”
~Sanhedrin 54b: “If a man commits sodomy with a boy less than nine years old, they are not guilty of sodomy.”
~Sanhedrin 59b: “Sexual intercourse with a boy less than eight years old is not fornication.”
~Kethoboth 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a girl less than three is nothing.”
~Sanhedrin 43a: “Jesus was guilty of sorcery and apostasy; he deserved execution. The disciples of Jesus deserve to be killed.”
~Yebamoth 63a on Genesis 2:23: “Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.”
~Sanhedrin 76b on Exodus 21:12: “A man is not guilty of murder if he causes a poisonous snake to kill...a snake should be executed for murder, while the man goes free.”
~Kiddushin 49b declares that: “Israelites possess 90% of all wisdom. The other 10% is spread out among the Gentiles.”
~Yebamoth 98a: “All Gentile children are legally bastards, since Gentiles are only animals.”
~Baba Mezia 114b: “Gentile girls are in a state of uncleanness from birth, and marriage with them is prohibited.”
~Baba Bathra 54b: “Property of Gentiles is like the desert; whoever gets there first gets it."
~Baba Kamma 38a: “Gentiles are outside the legal protection of the Law of Israel.
~Sanhedrin 52b: “Adultery is not forbidden...with the wife of a Gentile, because Moses only forbids adultery with a ‘neighbor’s wife’, and Gentiles are not neighbors.”
~Menahoth 43b: “A Jewish male should thank God for not making him a woman or a Gentile."
~Baba Bathra 16b: “The birth of a girl is a sad occurrence.”
~Aboth 1:5: “It is not good to talk to women, not even your own wife.”
~Gittin 91a: “It is permissible to divorce your wife if she burns your dinner, or if you see a prettier girl.”


Educate Yourself

Either misinterpretations, or flat out lies in all of em. I have already gone through that list quite a few times with Stormfront members like yourself, here on ATS


-One of the Bush admin's stories about 911, was that a hijaker went to a bar, got drunk(this is forbidden Islam), paid for a lapdance(also obviously forbidden), told everyone around him what he planned to do, and then before getting on the plane to 'meet his Maker' he left his business card and a Quran, but this guy was too smart for American intelligence supposedly.


Those damn Jews. Wait . . . what?


-You can be locked up in some countries just for denying the holocaust


You can be locked up for a lot of crazy things in any country.


-Thousands of jews fought for the Nazi's and in approximately 20 cases, jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos). Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of these soldiers, including two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."


And plenty of other different religions too. And tehn?


-Zioinst jew Meyer Lansky, the man who practically ran the jewish mafia(and some say italian mafia as well) was kicked out of America, but Israel welcomed him for his services to Israel...another example of the zionists true goals.


--In 1970, Lansky fled to Herzliya Pituah, Israel, to escape federal tax evasion charges. Although the Israeli Law of Return allows any Jew to settle in the State of Israel, it excludes those with criminal pasts. Two years after Lansky fled to Israel, Israeli authorities deported him back to the U.S--


-The satanic church was founded by the jew Anton Lavey


Oh noez. Someone of Jewish descent started his own brand of Satanism. I guess Jews are not allowed to make their own life choices, unless they conform with what we think?


-when actor Marlon Brando said that the American media was run by jews, the American jewish media made a huge issue of it, and he was forced to apoligize, the same as they did to Mel Gibson.


I dunno . . . maybe because those statements reek of anti-Jewism (which both people are pretty well known for.)


-ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek, People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media and Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO.


Proof other than a last name?


-In 1967, following a war between Israel and the countries of Syria, Jordan and Egypt, Isreal military occupied the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. That year the United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 242 calling on Isreal to withdraw from the occupied territories. Isreal has yet to comply, and has currently violated more than 68(count 'em, 68) UN resolutions and thanks to America with its vetoes they are yet to have any UN sanctions put on them.


Security Council passed, but it failed hard in General Assembly. Please learn how the UN works.






With that, I will end. I am bored. You make this waaaay to easy.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Amassuo
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stop lying you havent read anything in this thread


Oh, so I am just refuting every point you make with facts while NOT reading anything.

I am just that awesome, I guess.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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The IDF can not survive without the US behind them? The US Military would'nt have modern technology without Israeli inventions!


Please name some of these israeli inventions that the US military uses .

Also, name some non-israeli inventions that the Israeli military uses.



Easy enough



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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All I can say is, wtf?

Although, it's not hard to believe!



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Amassuo
So being an ally justifys them to recieve funding to steal land and murder INNOCENT CHILDREN?
How about you pro-israelis, gather all the proofs to justify the murder of innocent children and we shall judge in a fair trial which weighs more in damage

dont bring up human shields, as someone already stated kids have to fight for their lives themselves after losing their whole families to israel.


Would those innocent children be the same as these innocent children?

en.wikipedia.org...
www.jpost.com...

^^^^ proofs (sic)

My wife is a palestinian christian arab, my father in law was from the West Bank, so don't actually think you can throw out broad generalities and talking points. Research, think, THEN post.
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