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Originally posted by blocula
but these witch hunts were started by a POPE !!!...and the accused and killed victims properties were confiscated by the church...the same popes that are worshipped by millions to this very day....we as a race have been hypnotized and blinded by evil sinister powers...no doubt about it.
Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by Aeons
Jeez...calm down. We're just trying to have a civilized discussion here. You don't need to be on the attack. I do have Wicca friends as a matter of fact and we do agree on this subjects. Althouh there are many facets to this, that doesn't mean that what I stated has no foundation.
what didnt happen that way? i'm not getting your point and what does botch refer to and what does it mean here
Originally posted by Aeons
One of my great grandmothers, and her entire biological family were put to the fire. Men and women. Her husband bribed them to botch the fire to burn her. Württemberg region I believe.
If you'd like to put some more emotional emphasis behind that, it'll still be untrue. The witch burning still happened, they just didn't happen that way.
Shall I pull out my High Priestess initiation rank in several trads now, or would you like me to wait until later to continue beating you over the head about this?
The forgery was Etienne Leon de Lamothe-Langon's Histoire de l'Inquisition en France, written in 1829. Lamothe-Langon described enormous witch trials which supposedly took place in southern France in the early 14th century. Run by the Inquisition of Toulouse and Carcasonne, these trials killed hundreds upon hundreds of people. The most famous was a craze where 400 women died in one day. No other French historian had noticed these trials.
When the Church was at the height of its power (11th-14th centuries) very few witches died. Persecutions did not reach epidemic levels until after the Reformation, when the Catholic Church had lost its position as Europe's indisputable moral authority. Moreover most of the killing was done by secular courts. Church courts tried many witches but they usually imposed non-lethal penalties. A witch might be excommunicated, given penance, or imprisoned, but she was rarely killed. The Inquisition almost invariably pardoned any witch who confessed and repented.