CANADIANS!- Let's talk about heath care!, page 4
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reply posted on 2-8-2011 @ 06:52 AM by chrissiel123
For the most part, our health care system is wonderful. Yes, I often have to wait two hours if I go to emergency, however that is the result of too many people going there for non-emergency issues. And for any type of specialist, there is often a wait. But the care, once you get it is great! I only once ever got mad at a dr here, was in a lot of pain in my jaw and he tried to send me home to go to a dentist, even though i kept telling him it was my sinuses. I normally wouldnt have argued, but the pain was OMGGGGG level. He finally agreed to do a scan, and found that every sinus in my head was impacted, had to spend the night on iv drips. There was also the issue i had for years trying to get a new fertility drug prescribed to me, trying out dr after dr, asking them all for it so i could start a family, and not one dr was willing to try the new drug as it was still an unproven. I finally found a dr that trusted me enough to try it and now i have two kids.
But seriously - our healthcare is not a thing we should complain about. It is "free" in that while most of us help foot the bill, even the poorest person can walk in and get help. my american sister paid thousands of dolars to have her baby state-side, while mine up here was cost free. it almost didnt seem fair.
I will say, there may components lacking in mental health - a few friends with depression or anxiety that i feel dont get the help they need, and a family member with MS that is still patiently waiting for liberation treatment to come to a town near her.
i think canadians just dont know how bad it can be, and dont appreciate how much goes into maintaining it. we need more doctors, we need more nurses, bu until we get them, people need to stay away from the emergency rooms! if a digit isnt about to fall of, or if loads of blood isnt leaking out somewhere, or if your appendix isnt about to burst -you have to ask yourself, is it really an EMERGENCY???


reply posted on 2-8-2011 @ 05:42 PM by User8911
I'll tell you what is wrong with the Canadian health care...it's all going private! ^^

On another note, I really want you guys to read this even if I am a bit late in the topic...
I think a socialist medicare system might be expensive but of course it's worth it in the end and I've read most of what you guys say and I wouldn't give away our system for anything in the world.
A lot of Americans are too much affected by anti-communism propaganda to accept that it is a better way.

But all of this makes me think...the most stupid thing we do concerning free health care is ;
Not working on not getting sick in the first place.

I'm not saying nothing is done to make Canadians healthier but I mean, GMO's?
Still relying on oil thaaaaat much?
Taking off phys. ed. in most school programs?
Bring in extra taxes on what is considered unhealthy, go ahead!!
Anything we could do to be healthier would lower the cost of out health care

I may be a bit anti-globalism with what I'm about to say but,
Canada has everything man need, or almost.
Canada isn't going to win the global race, hell no.
Canada will only get rapped in the end, all resources taken by wealthy NON-Canadians, gone will be our land of nature and freedom.

We should innovate, get out of the race, go in our own direction and make Canada Canadian!
Not Americanized, globalized and in debt, forget that crap.
I don't want a corporate Canada where money is worth more then human values.

We have what it takes and we don't want no one to take it from us.


reply posted on 3-8-2011 @ 11:56 AM by bobs_uruncle
Originally posted by Unity_99
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The longest wait in BC in the emergency was a couple hours and that was only because it was a busy night and some of the more urgent cases go ahead of the ones that are deemed less urgent. That was the longest wait on average, its been under an hour.


I'm in Ontario in Kanadakastan, two of the hospitals were rural and one was urban. These were middle of the week visits after midnight, so there generally weren't any drunks or the recipients of bar room thrashings in the ER. Actually, there were never more than 6 people waiting in the ER when I took my friend into the hospital. Maybe it's better in BC, if it is, thumbs up!

Like I said, learn a bit about surgery, prescription drugs and stitching, people are going to need it very soon because you can't rely on the government for anything but # (generally brown fecal matter).

Cheers - Dave


reply posted on 6-8-2011 @ 06:09 PM by bronco73
Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
Australia has one of the most efficient Public Health Care systems in the entire world. Most in Australia/Many in Australia use a combination of private and public health care/health insurance. If anyone wants to tell me how terrible public healthcare is I shall simply point them to my health and the money I have spent on health. I gaurantee in almost all cases I will be healthier and would have spent less then most.


Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

I cannot speak to how Americans feel about their system because I don't live there, but Canadians are so freaking stubborn that it borders on insanity. Canadians (for the most part) outright refuse to look at other options for health care for fear that it might "americanize" our glorious health care system. The Canadian system will eventually go broke, there is no avoiding it. In most provinces, health care is already consuming 50 percent of their provincial budget, and that is an unsustainable number. There is nothing wrong with SOME private care, non-essential procedures like hips, knees, joints and other procedures like MRI's could easily be handled by a private system. The public system could even pay a portion of this cost, while private insurers could be used for the remainder. Make no mistake, continuing on this course of 100% public while looking at no other options WILL eventually destitute the health system in Canada. Looking at the worlds best health systems, the vast majority of them are a compromised mix between private and public health care. That is the direction that both the United States and Canada should pursue.
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