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DEA Agents Raid Wrong House & Slam Veteran On Ground

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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The title says it all.

It's another 2AM raid on a veteran's family for another drug related revenue generator for the state. The man the police were looking for was the landlord's son who used this family's address as his own, the family rents from the suspect's father. If the police would have even slightly investigated this case, they would have realized the suspect did not live there.

Now another innocent, law abiding family, whose father served our country during war, must endure sleepless nights and a fresh dose of PTSD that may linger for years.



I used to cringe when I watched how the Russian police treated their citizens back in the 80s and 90s.... now I envy them.

edit on 1-8-2011 by JibbyJedi because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...

Poor intelligence before a raid, another shining example for the "intelligence" of LE. Hows it go, ignorance is no excuse?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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If you're raiding homes at 2am, you damned well better be sure there is at least a chance that your suspect is in the home.

Shoddy police work because these cowboys are excited to riot up and break down some doors, they might even get to shoot a dog or an innocent person. Who's got time to fact check when you've got 12 trained pigs to suit up and get in the paddy wagon?


edit on 1-8-2011 by Backslider because: Almost called the police trained dogs, but I love my dog and wouldn't disrespect him like that.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...



Envy is a strong word for the Soviet police state, but it's only a slight exaggeration. From what I've seen the citizens lives weren't ruined by police "mistakes", they were ruined on purpose. So either the USSA police are incompetent, or doing exactly what they are meant to do.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Backslider
reply to post by hillynilly
 


If you're raiding homes at 2am, you damned well better be sure there is at least a chance that your suspect is in the home.

Shoddy police work because these cowboys are excited to riot up and break down some doors, they might even get to shoot a dog or an innocent person. Who's got time to fact check when you've got 12 trained pigs to suit up and get in the paddy wagon?


edit on 1-8-2011 by Backslider because: Almost called the police trained dogs, but I love my dog and wouldn't disrespect him like that.


Oh I totally agree, shoddy police work..

The thread title is misleading because they did NOT raid the wrong house..
Like they were suppose to go to 4259 but they went to 4258 that is not what happen.

This vet needs to sue the police department for the attacks from the officers..

He deserves atleast 10 grand..

That was the observation I made..


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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...


They did raid the wrong house as the house they raided was not the suspect's residence. And you spelled the word "there" wrong at the end of your post.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...


They did raid the wrong house as the house they raided was not the suspect's residence. And you spelled the word "there" wrong at the end of your post.


They did not raid the wrong house!!!!

Raiding the wrong house would be them going to 5310 e that street dr.
When they were suppose to go too 5310 w that street dr..

Deny ignorance my friend..

DENY ignorance NOT embrace..

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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It's very interesting to learn that the lead detectives did *not* corroborate the address as valid. Maybe this is why Police don't want their officer's home addresses published: Criminals will start using those addresses as theirs so that the Police will begin raiding their own homes.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by hillynilly

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...


They did raid the wrong house as the house they raided was not the suspect's residence. And you spelled the word "there" wrong at the end of your post.


They did not raid the wrong house!!!!

Raiding the wrong house would be them going to 5310 e that street dr.
When they were suppose to go too 5310 w that street dr..

Deny ignorance my friend..

DENY ignorance NOT embrace..

edit on 1-8-2011 by hillynilly because: (no reason given)


Did the suspect live there? No. Wrong residence.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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They did not raid the wrong house!!!!
 


The suspect wasn't there was he? Using an address and living somewhere are two different stories. There was no confirmation that the suspect lived at the address.... Hence, they raided the wrong location, because he was not there.

Chalk it up to persecuting crimes that don't even warrant looking into the person enough to confirm where they live.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by hillynilly

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...


They did raid the wrong house as the house they raided was not the suspect's residence. And you spelled the word "there" wrong at the end of your post.


They did not raid the wrong house!!!!

Raiding the wrong house would be them going to 5310 e that street dr.
When they were suppose to go too 5310 w that street dr..

Deny ignorance my friend..

DENY ignorance NOT embrace..

edit on 1-8-2011 by hillynilly because: (no reason given)


Did the suspect live there? No. Wrong residence.


No he was not. THEY went to the house they were told to..
So it was the right house...
It is not like they could call though.....
*Hey were coming to get this drug dealer is he home*



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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The Police raided the wrong home because they had FALSE information. They had the WRONG address. While they may have targeted the same address as reported on the warrant, that doesn't mean it was the RIGHT house.

Your logic tells me you fail at critical thinking skills.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by hillynilly

Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are

Originally posted by hillynilly
Well I am far from envy for the soviet police state,
these officers did not raid the *wrong* house per say...

They raided the right house but the person they
were looking for was not their...


They did raid the wrong house as the house they raided was not the suspect's residence. And you spelled the word "there" wrong at the end of your post.


They did not raid the wrong house!!!!

Raiding the wrong house would be them going to 5310 e that street dr.
When they were suppose to go too 5310 w that street dr..

Deny ignorance my friend..

DENY ignorance NOT embrace..

edit on 1-8-2011 by hillynilly because: (no reason given)


Embrace ignorance? The DEA sure embraced their ignorance of the suspects whereabouts by raiding the WRONG HOUSE.

Why am I even arguing about this. The world's going to end soon, and I have bigger fish to fry.

"To the emergency bunker, at the speed of lightning!..."



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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I don't really see how the fact that the guy is a veteran is relevant to the story? Would you have posted this if it happened to a plumber?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Let's just say that it doesn't take a lot of effort to stake out a potential residence scheduled for a raid 2 days or so prior to confirm the suspect resides there. A simple confirmation other than a post office piece of paper should be required where lives could be ruined or lost from a mistake.


Originally posted by MJZoo
I don't really see how the fact that the guy is a veteran is relevant to the story? Would you have posted this if it happened to a plumber?


Absolutely. Here's some of my other threads about police incompetence and ridiculous activities...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

I just feel extra sad for veterans who have already been through Hell and PTSD, this is the last thing they need.

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
reply to post by hillynilly
 

The Police raided the wrong home because they had FALSE information. They had the WRONG address. While they may have targeted the same address as reported on the warrant, that doesn't mean it was the RIGHT house.

Your logic tells me you fail at critical thinking skills.




I AGREE THEY ARE MORONS!!!

The lead investigator should be fired...

I doubt the other 12 guys knew about it..
Just doing their job.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Let me make it even more simple: Did they slam the right person to the ground? No. Did the person they slammed to the ground live at the house. Yes. Did the suspect. No. If they had gone to the suspect's actual residence then they would have gone to the right house.

- PS

A broken clock shows the correct time twice every day.

- PPS

If they had gone to your house thinking the suspect lived there and slammed you to the ground would you be arguing that they went to the right house? A yes or no answer is sufficient.

edit on 8/1/2011 by this_is_who_we_are because: typo and postscripts



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by MJZoo
I don't really see how the fact that the guy is a veteran is relevant to the story? Would you have posted this if it happened to a plumber?


I think it's very relevant.

If they would have just sent one, or two, units to talk to him first,
he may very well have told them where the son lived. If he knew at all.
A veteran tends to have the ability to relate to the pressure of wearing a uniform.

Just sayin.


David Grouchy



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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as usual no one will lose their job. If incompetence was an olympic event US law enforcement would be investigated for doping-------because they would take every medal..

Wait, I'm sorry, I meant Special Olympics....



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