Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by haarvik
Does it affect humans?
That's all that matters.
Here are a couple of studies on Bt.:National Pesticides Telecommunications Network
Endotoxins on the Pea Ahpid
After reading the first study you can at least gather that there is at least some harm caused to humans. Another poster asked the question why did they test women and children? I would have to say because, Bt. in it's non-altered form disrupts the reproduction cycle of female and/or hemaphrodite insects. Once ingested the female/hemaphrodite is no longer able to reproduce prior to death. In addition to that any larvae will be erradicated with 7-10 days of ingestion. It is a systemic/microbiological approach to some hard shelled insects that would otherwise be immune to most "Biological/Microbial" pesticides.
The difference in the original form of Bt.,(which is harmless to humans) and the now chemical form is 1000% to say the least. The form of Bt., that our buds over at Monsanto use has been chemically altered beyond belief. The only reason they are able to say that Bt., modified foods are not dangerous is because they started off with a biological pest control. But what they are doing now is beyond the scope of biological pest control of any sort as it has as all you know been genetically bred into the seed itself changing the DNA of specific plants.
The FDA should have their @$$'es handed to them for ever allowing such a food product on the market, because when the water boils down it's the FDA's fault. Excuse my lack of finding proper words to describe my anger for the Federal Death Authority/FDA, but they are nothing but crooks and the protector of any company with a "Great" idea, they could careless about you or me! Sorry, to go off topic about the FDA. Everyone should know they used to be called The Department of Chemistry, until they found out how much money they could make by masking themselves as the Food/Chemical (what a crock of pooh) protectors of the citizens of the United States of America, a.k.a. FDA.
Back to Bt., I also have years of experience working with this "biopesticide" (I earned my useless B.S.,lol in Biology from Temple University) in it's natural form and in it's unnatural form. Let's just say, I used to grow my own hydroponically produced "herbs". I would always get insects commonly refered to as ahpids, root aphids, spider mites, fungus gnats and thrips. At last, I thought I found the cure all to my insect problems Bt., in the form of Thuricide which is natural. It worked for a few years on all but the aphids and never worked on the root aphids (which are very hard to kill). So, I looked for something stronger and while I will not name this product for various reasons, worked incredibly well...too good to be true actually. I believed that this stronger product was harmless, however after over 7 years of handling this stuff, I now have an underactive thyroid...hypo-thyroidism. I have no idea if I can still have children as I already have two and care for no more. But, one should question the comparison of naturally occuring Bt. and Chemically altered Bt., as to wether or not it could possibly disrupt or sterlize a human female, since this is what it is designed to do in pest/insects. More specifically, female insects since they reproduce at an alarming rate and many of them need to male for reproduction.
Okay, now I'm all over the place, but before I go, here's another article published by Cornell University about Bt.:
I hope some of this information is helpful and believe you me when I tell you that although I have no scientific proof that the chemical version of Bt. I onced used for my special "herbs" damaged my thyroid, it's quite obvious when you deeply study the effects of this chemical form on the human thyroid, which has also been done.
Whatever you do, please stay away from those seeds, don't even chance it, it's not worth it. Pay attention to the kind of seeds you purchase, the label should specifically say NOT GENETICALLY MODIFIED. I have stored a huge collection of various food seeds and not one is modified. Pay attention the next time you're at your local nursery or one of the Big guys like Home Depot and the likes.......READ the LABEL!
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