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Obama Team Rewriting Constitution by 2012

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Those names, Sunstein, Holder, Powers... just something about it makes me think it is not a coincidence, but it could be nothing.




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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reply to post by Kevinquisitor
 


I sure as hell hope its nothing and that the others in this thread ARE right and they wouldn't get away with it if they were doing it. Thank you for a civil reply!

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Redwookieaz
reply to post by Undertough
 


Thanks for the input.

Did you read my first sentence in my post that you quoted? It says, "I am not anti-government".


Yup but I also read your first post.

Originally posted by Redwookieaz
I'll say it again, I don't want anything from the rotten government! I want them to leave me the hell alone! I want them out of my daily life. I don't care if they promise everyone all the money they could want and immortality, I want them to stay away. I am a free man and I don't need a big daddy.
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Which one was the sincere one?



Also I'm not afraid of guys wandering in a desert halfway around the world. They probably wouldn't hate us so much if we weren't bombing the crap out of them and invading their countries.

No sir, I'm afraid of the terrorists that are right here holding public office.


I am pretty sure I never said any of the particular "wars" that make the daily papers keep you protected. There are reasons others countries do not just come take you besides what is going on in Iraqafhganshouldnthavestan right?

So now I am curious if your first line in your second post is how you feel or if your entire post is how you feel. They are a tad contradictive don't you think?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Undertough
 


ah tough guy you just keep on telling people here to get off. You will make lots of enemies that way and I will be lmao.


I am sorry?

When have I ever told anyone on ATS to get off of ATS? I believe you are confusing me with the other guy that you did not understand who told you to "get out of here with that."

THAT WAS NOT ME.


This dude can be on ATS all he wants. I never suggested otherwise. He is a freeman. Let him build his own internet. Why the hell does he need the government to tell me that he does not need the government. I would assume that unless he has his own means of mass communication, I do not really need to know. Yet, I do.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Undertough

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Undertough
 


ah tough guy you just keep on telling people here to get off. You will make lots of enemies that way and I will be lmao.


I am sorry?

When have I ever told anyone on ATS to get off?

she does that a lot. Assumes everyone who disagrees with her is one monolithic mind.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by jonco6
reply to post by dizzie_lizzie79
 


haha thats nuts dont they relize americans where tought from birth to dislike communism and their ideals I dont have a clue how they think they would get away with trying to implement anything of the sort here especially after we have seen how well it worked out for everyone else.


Really you don't have a clue how they could do this - really!!?

When a man saturated in Alynski's subversive methods for infiltrating the system in order to destroy it from within was elected - just what in the hell do you suppose he was going to do?


Cloward-Piven Paradise Now? By Jeannie DeAngelis Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that ensures Obama remains in power.

Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred to as the "crisis strategy," which they believed were a means to "end poverty." The premise of the Cloward-Piven collective/anti-capitalist gospel decried "individual mobility and achievement," celebrated organized labor, fostered the principle that "if each finally found himself in the same relative economic relationship to his fellows ... all were infinitely better off."

The duo taught that if you flooded the welfare rolls and bankrupted the cities and ultimately the nation, it would foster economic collapse, which would lead to political turmoil so severe that socialism would be accepted as a fix to an out-of-control set of circumstances.


www.americanthinker.com...
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by leemachino
Obama is not a Marxist. He is a corporatist. He is inching farther to the right than Republican icon Reagan. To me, Obamacare was nothing more than an insurance company bailout.


Merely a ruse.

Kabuki Theater at its best.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by brianmg5

Originally posted by ohioriver
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Sounds good doesn't it? Until you realize the strings that come with it.


The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

Gov will decide where you work

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

Gov decides what your salary will be

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return that will give him and his family a decent living;

Gov will tell you what you can raise

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
Gov will decide how much profit you can make

The right of every family to a decent home;

Gov will decide where you live

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

Gov will mandate what is considered adequate

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident and unemployment;

Gov will decide how much you get during retirement (forget 401k's)

The right to a good education.

Gov will decide what you study in school.



That's all speculation and fear mongering. You have no clue about any of that. You've taken the wost case scenario and applied to every new right! That is truly revealing...

Much like one of the posters said above, this would have to approved by congress, and only a congress of our worst nightmares would vote in the terrible ideas you just represented.

If you look back through history (thousands of years), you can clearly see that life gets better and better (especially when considering social issues) so please forgive me if I steer away from the "glass is half empty" perception and go with a much more positive outlook.


History shows you are wrong.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by leemachino
Obama is not a Marxist. He is a corporatist. He is inching farther to the right than Republican icon Reagan. To me, Obamacare was nothing more than an insurance company bailout.


Merely a ruse.

Kabuki Theater at its best.



right, he's a radical leftist despite all actual evidence showing he is in bed with the Right.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by leemachino
Obama is not a Marxist. He is a corporatist. He is inching farther to the right than Republican icon Reagan. To me, Obamacare was nothing more than an insurance company bailout.


Merely a ruse.

Kabuki Theater at its best.



right, he's a radical leftist despite all actual evidence showing he is in bed with the Right.


Yes, he is.

He is out for Obama, plain and simple.
And the fact that some of the major companies in bed with him are HUGE unionized entities.

SSSSSPLLLLLTTTT. Don't mind that.

But, why should he turn his back on HUGE business. He can smile and stab them in the back, using the economy, then push them for Govt ownership.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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we might as well have Dr. Seuss write it, scratch that I have more confidence in Seuss


I guess rewriting one of the most intelligent and timelessly relevant constitutions of any country is easier then a budget

how about they start doing their required job tasks first



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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So, to recap, Obama is a radical leftist who is in cahoots with the Union Busters and the Military industrial Complex, and the fact that he hasn't gotten around to do anything even closely resembling 'leftist' policy is because he's still hiding his true intent?

SO, when do we get this' radical leftist' policy and stuff?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Is this a hoax? It just doesn't seem real to me... the elites' tactic hasn't been to outright destroy the Constitution, just circumvent it as much as possible.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
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So, to recap, Obama is a radical leftist who is in cahoots with the Union Busters and the Military industrial Complex, and the fact that he hasn't gotten around to do anything even closely resembling 'leftist' policy is because he's still hiding his true intent?

SO, when do we get this' radical leftist' policy and stuff?


Really???
Another RAH RAH RAH Obama poster??

Nothing like overloading the system, like sidling up with those you despise, to help bring it down.

What Union Busters? I do recall some of the most frequently visited persons, as per the WH log, was Richard Trumka and other Union bosses.

Military Industrial Complex, sure does benefit GE greatly. They are in the back pocket of the WH as well.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
has anyone heard of the second bill of rights?

and IT FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!

hrmmmm
people have been rewriting the constitution since it was created and they continue to do so

through the amendment process.

commumist blah theres always north korea and china if you just want it so bad.


No it didn't fail. FDR died before it could be brought to a vote. Heaven help this country if everyone were treated equally like the founding fathers wanted us to be. It's funny how the republicans scream the constitution but won't hesitate to spit on it every chance they can get.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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hilarious ok yeah whatever its not like the democrats havent ever done the same

second ammendment for starters and obama care aka the care act.

nice attempt



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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hilarious ok yeah whatever its not like the democrats havent ever done the same

second ammendment for starters and obama care aka the care act.

nice attempt


What country do you live in? The second amendment hasn't been repealed it's still in effect. And how about a list of dems who said the constitution is just a piece of paper. Your right about Obama care though equal medical care for everyone. There's that word the repubs hate again you know equal.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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yeah what country do i live in when the government tells me:

what a gun can look like
how many rounds it can hold
how many rounds can be fired at one time
where i can or cant fire it

etc.
oh i know i live in the fascist states of stupidity

meh



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by macman
 


So, to recap, Obama is a radical leftist who is in cahoots with the Union Busters and the Military industrial Complex, and the fact that he hasn't gotten around to do anything even closely resembling 'leftist' policy is because he's still hiding his true intent?

SO, when do we get this' radical leftist' policy and stuff?


Obama is not trying to tinker with the system or nudge it leftward - he is going to collapse it entirely!


..................Back to the $2 Trillion that Obama is being handed. I honestly think that most people in this country have no understanding of simple counting numbers. Do you not understand how much a trillion is? Where do you think this money is going to come from -- who has two trillion dollars to loan us?

China? Nope. Not even close. China's entire GDP is only $6 Trillion. Do you honestly think that China is going to loan us one third of their total annual economic production? China was a huge creditor to us back when $100 Billion was considered a staggeringly large amount of money - which was four years ago. Now $100 Billion is literally a rounding error. Do you realize that there are only a handful of nations of this planet that even have a GDP in excess of $2 Trillion? If these countries loaned us every penny of their GDP, it wouldn't even be $2 Trillion: Canada ($1.57 T) India ($1.54 T) Russia ($1.46 T)

Are you starting to understand the scope of what we are talking about now? Obama is going to embezzle considerably more than the entire economic output of Canada, India or Russia to his cronies before the 2012 election -- and that is just counting this round of spending. This doesn't include the other $5 Trillion he has already burned through since 2009. China is not going to lend us this money because they simply don't have anything close to that much money to lend. This $2 Trillion is going to come from the Federal Reserve. Where is the Federal Reserve going to get $2 Trillion?

They are going to print it out of thin air. We are in the midst of the largest currency debasement ever seen in human history. There is only one result that can come of currency debasement: hyperinflation and total economic and societal collapse.


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