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(Disturbing Videos) King Kalien and Momma K.

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by enament
I only got one thing to say watch the santa video.


...the santa video is not proof of criminal behavior...

...before the video can be considered somewhat incriminating, there has to be evidence that proves the teenaged son is the one filming it - but - that still would not prove sexual abuse...




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Ok, found it..........um......er..........holy smoke!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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I agree with you but but the santa video was crossing the line to some degree; that can't be denied.

Wish the kid had at least a half decent father or uncle.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by BIGPoJo
 


Thats exactly what I think too.

Come on people.....I think you're looking too much in to this! The pair are weird but nothing jumps out to appear there is any child abuse at all. House appears a little cluttered but clean.

This is REAL child abuse:

youtu.be...

youtu.be...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

The American Street Kid (documentary):

youtu.be...


edit on 1-8-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)


I could've gone all my life without seeing this. It's sad. This is a problem everyone policing the innocent and turning them into pariahs while real bastards and C words are doing this. Deplorable.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
but the santa video was crossing the line to some degree; that can't be denied.


...without knowing who was filming the video and who else was present during the filming, only someone who lacks critical thinking skills would perceive it as crossing a line...



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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I know the difference between illegal and legal. That may have been legal but that doesn't make it right. You want to know who posted the video?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ldyserenity
 


This is all very real. It's been around for a while the woman has had her child taken away on suspicion before. It's not hearsay, people have seen it. Just because you personally haven't seen it doesn't mean it's hearsay. This is real and it's messed up.


Yeah well my idiot neighbors has said a lot of S*** about me that isn't true like I do crack, but yet I never touch a drug, not perscription, nor illegal, I don't even effing drink. Humans can be putrid liars, and VILE creatures. Also I am the big "TROUBLE" maker in the neighborhood, but I live like a hermit, I only go out to shop and visit 1 friend in the neighborhood, and never say jack squat to nobody but a lot of these idiots come to my door spewing BS and I won't take it, I'll put them in check so I guess that makes me a "Trouble maker" but in accordance with law I have the absolute right to physically remove a menace from my property, I guess nobody know the laws around here about trespassing and such.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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I have no doubts about who made the video and posted it on Youtube however by saying that, there are far worse cases of child abuse out there....some REAL shockers that would bring tears to anyone's eyes, even the hardened of people. Then we have the street kids......no home, no clean bed to sleep in, picking up their food from garbage tins or whereever they can get it.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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There are varying degrees of wrongness in this world.

This is pretty wrong. She may not be doing crack or beating him, but still she has messed him up pretty bad. Not all forms of abuse have to be instantly obvious, even though this pretty much is.

Still he is almost an adult now so what are you going to do?

If you take him away now he will return to her willingly in a couple of years.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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What is 4chan? What does it have to do with the topic? I can't find any comments from 4chan on any videos nor their channel on youtube.??

IS it a member? or are you talking about the web image website? the knockoff of youtube?
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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reply to post by enament
 


I found and watched the santa video and there is no proof anywhere, not even a reflection in the mirror that the boy is videotaping.

I also found some other very interesting video posted by Kaelin himself.

It seems that 4chan are at it again destroying another persons life. This really pisses me off to say the least. But, if it isn't in the neighborhood playground, the schools then this sorta thing will happen online. Like I have said before and I will say it again. It you don't want trouble then don't live in a glass house. As for you 4chan, you lost my respect of course, but you never had it to begin with so, not much of a loss there is it? He mentioned in this video that Anonymous was also involved but, I don't know about all that. Anon wouldn't waste their time on something like this I wouldn't believe since they have bigger fish to fry from all the media has put out about them. I don't know much about Anon so, don't quote me on that.

I just think it is sad that this has come to a point that it has brought a child to tears and some online punks are all behind it. From what the Mother is saying, she might be fighting back so, better look out.

I don't agree with what you guys are doing to cause such stress and drama within a peaceful family household and I don't understand why you are doing it, but I do think that you need to get your priorities in check.

School is starting soon so, hopefully this will come to an end and no one will get hurt more than they already have.

sad it had to come to this,...

P.S. If you really want to get to someone, why not try being nice. That way you can find out the truth and then be able to help. Just be careful what you do. Harm no one, 'lest it will come back on you 10 fold. in laymens terms that means "Karma can be a biotch"



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by mustangill
reply to post by enament
 


I found and watched the santa video and there is no proof anywhere, not even a reflection in the mirror that the boy is videotaping.

I also found some other very interesting video posted by Kaelin himself.

It seems that 4chan are at it again destroying another persons life. This really pisses me off to say the least. But, if it isn't in the neighborhood playground, the schools then this sorta thing will happen online. Like I have said before and I will say it again. It you don't want trouble then don't live in a glass house. As for you 4chan, you lost my respect of course, but you never had it to begin with so, not much of a loss there is it? He mentioned in this video that Anonymous was also involved but, I don't know about all that. Anon wouldn't waste their time on something like this I wouldn't believe since they have bigger fish to fry from all the media has put out about them. I don't know much about Anon so, don't quote me on that.

I just think it is sad that this has come to a point that it has brought a child to tears and some online punks are all behind it. From what the Mother is saying, she might be fighting back so, better look out.

I don't agree with what you guys are doing to cause such stress and drama within a peaceful family household and I don't understand why you are doing it, but I do think that you need to get your priorities in check.

School is starting soon so, hopefully this will come to an end and no one will get hurt more than they already have.

sad it had to come to this,...

P.S. If you really want to get to someone, why not try being nice. That way you can find out the truth and then be able to help. Just be careful what you do. Harm no one, 'lest it will come back on you 10 fold. in laymens terms that means "Karma can be a biotch"


How much of what you wrote here is directed to me? I am not associated with any group other than iIRC Chat and ATS.
Please don't bunch me in with groups I have no association with please..
edit on 1-8-2011 by enament because: politeness added



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Everyone has a different way of living and doing things. Your next door neighbors may think that some of the things that you do on a daily basis is strange or weird. Just because you do not agree to the way that another person carries him or herself does not mean they should be burned at the stake. If we see this child being beaten, yelled at or being tortured then yes, that is reason to step in, but just because his mother has chosen to raise her child in a more open and free spirited atmosphere does not constitute a cause for all this drama and trolling that has gone on.

I thought that ATS was all about being open and allowing people to live free and without harm and without fear of speaking and without fear of being able to express themselves in there homes or online. Isn't that what Anon is presently fighting for? If this is so, then why are there trolls out there that are trying to tear down exactly what Anon stands for? Priorities much???



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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I am disturbed! I am disturbed by the OP!

I noticed that you misspelled Kaelin's name in the title of your thread; you spelled it like you see the boy as something other than human perhaps.

I noticed that you see him as a girl, as effeminate, as if there is something wrong with him; he is a child that is "fair" and he is certainly his "mother's child" as he looks so much like her. He will be a very handsome man one day I assure you, and I also assure you he will become a real Man unlike the OP's personal observations and behavior.

I also noticed that Kaelin's mother is speaking Truthfully by the way she peers into the future with her eyes and then reflects into the past as she discusses with her child what is happening around them.

I do not think that airing our personal life in this manner is appropriate, but I am not seeing anything at all that is inappropriate by their discussions or behavior.

I noticed that most of the first set of videos is when Kaelin was younger; this is probably a classic case of "be careful what you put out there as it may haunt you one day", but I do not see anything wrong with the way the child is expressing himself at that age.

If the OP believes the child is being sexually molested it is because they reading within the nature of the "boy", as all boys are on the realm of sexuality as they are maturing. He will overcome this but I doubt the OP will. I do not see anything sexual in Nature coming through the mother in any capacity from what is being presented here.

The child and the mother could use a male figure in their lives, but that is not the question is it? The question is that the OP believes the child is being "destroyed" and is being "corrupted", and that he is sickened by the Love of his mother.

The OP is lost in their fantasies and needs to stop! Your obsession is beyond normal and your judgmental nature is going to send you straight to Hell! You are a zealot intent on saving someone from what I cannot tell. Yet you post personal videos, although they are public, in an effort to embolden your quest! What is wrong with you?

I think you should be ashamed of yourself and I am so thankful you do not work for CPS or any other such capacity. One day you will wake up to what you are doing, you are creating something that just does not exist, and you are lost in your "ideal" of what should and should not be.

I see a perfectly healthy boy who will one day become a Man! Sad that you cannot see beyond your personal demons OP, very sad! You should leave these people alone now, you have done enough damage!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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Enament, I will type you name if I am directing any of my statements to you. Sorry if you felt that I was in this post, but none of what I typed was directed to you.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by drew1749

Originally posted by Australiana



I mean it seems like borderline abuse to feed your kid nothing but vegan stuff.
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mmm... that comment right there wraps it up for me.


Are you really trying to make this about vegans? That has nothing to do with child abuse.

Get over yourself please. This is a pretty serious topic. Not some game about veggies.


Just to let you know soy products have estrogen hormones. Estrogen can cause men to become feminine.
I'm not expressing an opinion.Just stating a fact.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by mustangill
reply to post by enament
 


Enament, I will type you name if I am directing any of my statements to you. Sorry if you felt that I was in this post, but none of what I typed was directed to you.


Thank you It just looked bad is all, I know you didn't mean it. Just wanted to clarify it is all thank you.

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by enament
That may have been legal but that doesn't make it right.


...but, according to your personal morals, demonizing someone via speculation is right?...


...i frequently incorporate speculations into my demonization of politicians and other people i see as scum but my personal morals dont justify my speculations or my behavior... quite the contrary - under section 1, subsection 23456789 - it clearly says "feeling bitchy does not justify being bitchy" - but - when i'm bitchy, i usually ignore that pesky little code...



Originally posted by enament
You want to know who posted the video?


...i want verifiable evidence that validates the accusations...



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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I really do not think this thread belongs on ATS.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by BIGPoJo
I really do not think this thread belongs on ATS.

Well, it is in the socials forum and it sure seems like people are having "social" issues with it.





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