Obama, Congress Reach a Debt Deal

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Kinda sick how many of you where hoping America would fail.

Willing to put so many through so much all because of a political ideal you hold.. Meh, people act like children, its no wonder we have been on pause for so many years. Its a team sport, you cheerleaders should be proud of yourselves.


Are you so opposed to spending cuts and capping the debt ceiling that you call "political ideals" that you want to continue along the same path that got us to this point?

That's sick.




posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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right now i am hearing about 500 billion in defense cuts alot of you will be cheering but

what it means,

thousands of military out of work

thousands of suppliers out of work

increased unemployement

increased welfare

increased medicaid

military gets cut you think they are going to have insurance? not so fast


end result billions of lost revenue in to local economies and tax revenue for states and governments.

everyone ends right back up on the government dime

theres your good government for you.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Not against those or raising taxes.. Fact is for most people on this site it wont matter what mesures are taken because you are anti gov to start with and nothing will be enough... Then you have the right wingers here who will use that and attempt to make every right wing ideal seem the all spoken word of god.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Remember, the amount will not be enough over 10 years , anyway.

The main thing is that it all needs to hold together until Niburu arrives.

After that it really does not matter.

There is no way that something was not going to get passed. It would bring down the financial system if it wasn't



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Another right wing ideal, support military, cut off aid.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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yep im evil i support those people that every american president has used since the creation of this country

i dont beleive in leavin their butts hanging out to dry especially when there are no jobs to even be had here

yesssssssssssss i am evil incarnate!
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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How bout that socialized medicine they receive? Wish we had some


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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Oh, you do... Just not when they are busy fighting for you.. Look at all the homeless vietnam vets whos SS you would cut in a minute. The ones with PTSD on welfare who you label as lazy.. The list can go on and on.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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ok missed that one so where does the government send a homeless persons ss check?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
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So you have already read the bill? Or you just jumping the gun?


Most of the congressman don't even read the whole bill. They can't and do not have enough time or don't want too. They get the sound bites just like us.

And the sound bites sounds look like this bill is a complete joke. It does nothing!

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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I am not convinced.
1 Trillion over 10 years will not be enough to keep our credit rating from being downgraded. And the whole trauma behind default is to keep the credit rating.


I couldn't care less about our precious credit rating. We deserve to have it cut severely.

China's credit rating was recently UPGRADED to AA- . They have a 9.5% rate of growth and they own our currency. Our rate of growth is 1.3%, extremely pathetic. That's not growth, that's just the effect of our vast size of gravity overcoming the friction of a failed economy. Soon we will grind to a halt.

And there is no guarantee that any deal will stop S&P or Moody's from downgrading us anyway.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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the social medicine is what our congressman receive nothing compares to that is what you want



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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ok missed that one so where does the government send a homeless persons ss check?


Can I Get SSI and SSDI if I am Homeless? In a Shelter?
YES. You do not need to have a home to get SSI or SSDI, only a way for SSA to contact you and pay your benefits (by mail or direct deposit). You can get SSI for 6 months out of every 9 months you stay in a public (government run) emergency shelter. There is no time limit on getting SSI in a private shelter. There are no limits on getting SSDI in a shelter

www.masslegalhelp.org...
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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It's illegal to say to a voter "Here's $100, vote for me."

So what do the politicians do? They offer the $100 in the form of Health Care, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Food Stamps, tobacco subsidies, grain payments, NEA payments, and all sorts of programs. Somehow, the fact that more poor people are on welfare, receiving more generous payments, does not seem to have made this country a nice place to live, not even for the poor on welfare, whose condition seems not noticeably better than when they were poor and off welfare.

The government is really good at one thing. It knows how to break your legs, and then hand you a crutch and say, "See if it weren't for the government, you wouldn't be able to walk."

There are legitimate uses for human institutions but continuation of faceless bureaucracys interested only in centralized planning, theft, socialism, dependence, pauperization, inefficiency, greed waste, while at the same time converting the world into a nursery of "for your own good-ers" and "self-serving busybodies" does not parallel with human happiness.

Just remember that the principal instrument of government is coercion and that our government officials are no more moral, omnipotent, nor omniscient than are any of the rest of us.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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Most of them prob dont read it.. Does that make it ok for you to talk about it without reading it also? You should atleast look into what you want to go into. Otherwise its pointless.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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they think of everything dont they never miss a beat



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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You are just playing word games *yawns* Let me know when you are ready to go into facts. (an area you are not so good in, i know.)



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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oh come on it was a valid question.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
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Most of them prob dont read it.. Does that make it ok for you to talk about it without reading it also? You should atleast look into what you want to go into. Otherwise its pointless.


Yeah, you are agreeing with me. You just said most of them don't read it. So what the hell is your point? We have the bites now of what the bill is going to be about. Essentially it doesn't solve the debt problem in the least bit. Not even close.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Doesnt look like it was with such an easy answer at hand.. I guess i could give you some slack though, hard to really look up a subject when you are busy spaming every thread with political propaganda.
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