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NEWS: Pope John Paul Nearing End of Life - Vatican Sources

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posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
Uh Oh!!!



But anyway, the Pope has suffered way too much. A good man like him shouldn't have been in such a frail state of health for so many years...


Come on now. It's so obvious you altered that picture.

There have been 625 related stories since 9 AM (EST)




posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:23 PM
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Although, as a Catholic, I didn't agree with many of his policies and interpretations, I have a huge amount of respect for the man.

I beleive that he purposely exhibits his crippled and deteriorating body to the masses in order to show that, no matter how horrible the circumstances may be, there is still an inherrent dignity in life, and true to his most core beleifs, that all life is special and should be revered and experienced.

His shoes will be very hard to fill..........



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:23 PM
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Well, bad too hear that someone dies, even that he knowed about rapings of childern among the other priests , housed many nazi criminals, preaching against condoms in third-world countries







Religion should be next to die, 3 hurrays for science.

[edit on 16-8-2004 by Beast]



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:24 PM
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And the next Pope will herald the Apocolypse. There will not be another beyond the next.

You may get your wish for religeon to die...

[edit on 16-8-2004 by rustiswordz]



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by evecasino

Come on now. It's so obvious you altered that picture.

There have been 625 related stories since 9 AM (EST)


Hahaha, the only altering on that picture that I did was the red circle. That's it. Mods Honor...


And I'm not that good that I can alter a picture like that. I'm not Netchicken...


And furthermore... It did show up as 666. When I clicked on one of the articles and (after reading it) clicked back. It showed as 636

And last but not least... You're living proof of how quickly ATS members are to cry "picture altering", "fake!!" or "photoshop!!!" when they see a picture nowadays. It's like a reflex...



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Theosdaughter
I am not Catholic either - however, might the name "Martini",or an olive branch hold any meaning to those who are ?



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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Well, I guess this is a proper time to give you this link!



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:54 PM
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Oh thank God, finaly, I've been waiting forever for this day, the day that evil pope passed.

Sorry, but this is my opinion, I have no repsect for a man who does not respect humanity.

Deep



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
And the next Pope will herald the Apocolypse. There will not be another beyond the next.

You may get your wish for religeon to die...

[edit on 16-8-2004 by rustiswordz]


According to the prophecies of St Malachy, there are to be two popes after JPII.

These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles ...

John Paul II - De labore Solis (of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun) :
Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain. He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary).

Next Pope - Gloria olivae
John Paul IIs successor is called " Gloria Olivae," or "glory of the olive. "traditionally, the olive branch has been associated with peace, but in both the Old and New Testaments it also serves as an emblem for the Jews. Putting the two together, some commentators believe that the reign of this pope will be a peaceful one during which the prophesied conversion of the Jews will take place.
However , Malachy s description may instead refer to St. Benedicts 6th century prophecy that a member of his order will lead the Church in its fight against evil just before the Apocalypse. The Benedictine Order is known by another name: Olivetans.

Last Pope - Petrus Romanus- In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremdus iudicabit populum suum. :
In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people.

www.catholic-pages.com...
www.dayofgod.net...



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:01 PM
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Pope's gotta hold out till November for Nostradamus to be correct if I remember right...

I'm still kind of reeling from the 1999 quatrain though. There are too many things that ring true with his predictions, that can't be interpreted any other way...yet this one, one of the very few giving an exact year....didn't SEEM to come to pass. Of course, hindsight is 20/20...foresight, is rather blind....

So, who's up for the part? Interesting tidbit on the two popes prophecy, but I think most have it as only one more after JP2... Who knows though...



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
You're living proof of how quickly ATS members are to cry "picture altering", "fake!!" or "photoshop!!!" when they see a picture nowadays. It's like a reflex...


Surely this one must be real






posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Oh thank God, finaly, I've been waiting forever for this day, the day that evil pope passed.
Sorry, but this is my opinion, I have no repsect for a man who does not respect humanity.



Although I wouldn't go that far, I would say that the present Pope has probably done more damage to the Catholic Church than good.
Under his control, there has been virtually no progression whatsoever. All he has managed to do for the last 20 or so years is keep the Church in a state of stagnancy. This has caused more people than ever to turn away from Catholisism. I'm sorry, but I believe that although John Paul is probably a good man, he has been a terrible pope. He has done virtually nothing to further the Church and by this failure to act has probably created more atheists than anyone else in history.

I hope that whoever replaces him will reform the Church. It desperately needs to be updated and bought into the modern world.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:14 PM
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The sermon included a condemnation of materialism and secularism as well as abortion, cloning and euthanasia.


Materialism - always amusing to hear the Pope condemn this... Something tells me the Pope eats finer food than I ever will, lives in a finer home than I ever well, and rides in a schauffer-driven car nicer than I will ever own, and yet he condemns materialism?


Secularism - What religion's patriarch wouldn't? It means less followers.

Abortion - Many disagree on this one, myself included, as well as many Catholics. Nope, better to have a woman condemned to raise a child fathered by a rapist, or who comes out as deformed as the elephant man, etc.


Cloning - Nevermind that it could possibly lead to the cure of most diseases...perhaps even the Pope's own Parkinson's...


Euthanasia - Oh yeah...much better to live in misery than die a dignified death. Funny how we realize the humanity of it in regards to animals, but not humans...


He's not exactly going out with a bang here....



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
I'm sorry, but I believe that although John Paul is probably a good man, he has been a terrible pope. He has done virtually nothing to further the Church and by this failure to act has probably created more atheists than anyone else in history.


Now, I'm not sure I disagree with you, but let's keep in mind that the Pope is acting within an already-established structure. Let's keep in mind that under his watch, Galileo has been exhonerated, apologies were given for (some) of the Inquisition, and the possibility of people of other faiths not being condemned to hell has been broached. Certainly, he's no John Paul I, but if John Paul I was indeed murdered (I'm not claiming either way), it's not surprising that his replacement might be a little more cautious.

[edit on 16-8-2004 by AlexKennedy]



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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Im not a Catholic but he did a lot for the people in his native Poland to free them from the communists for that he deserves to be remembered well.
hes a tired man who still pushes himself too hard.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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I strongly recommend you to read the link I provided before ... and think about it. Because time is NOW running out.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
Hahaha, the only altering on that picture that I did was the red circle. That's it. Mods Honor...




OK I apologize. But that must be a sign from someone for you.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:31 PM
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Thaks Pisky dude.

Lets all nominate Tony Blair for the role of the new Pope. He has delusions of grandeaur lets not dissapoint him.




posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

The sermon included a condemnation of materialism and secularism as well as abortion, cloning and euthanasia.


Materialism - always amusing to hear the Pope condemn this... Something tells me the Pope eats finer food than I ever will, lives in a finer home than I ever well, and rides in a schauffer-driven car nicer than I will ever own, and yet he condemns materialism?


Secularism - What religion's patriarch wouldn't? It means less followers.

Abortion - Many disagree on this one, myself included, as well as many Catholics. Nope, better to have a woman condemned to raise a child fathered by a rapist, or who comes out as deformed as the elephant man, etc.


Cloning - Nevermind that it could possibly lead to the cure of most diseases...perhaps even the Pope's own Parkinson's...


Euthanasia - Oh yeah...much better to live in misery than die a dignified death. Funny how we realize the humanity of it in regards to animals, but not humans...


He's not exactly going out with a bang here....


I agree with you totaly.

Although I have never been religous as I believe it creates more problems and wars than it stops, I feel for those who were close to him and will miss him.

I still feel that if the world was religion free, it would be a better place to be a part of.



posted on Aug, 16 2004 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by AlexKennedy
Now, I'm not sure I disagree with you, but let's keep in mind that the Pope is acting within an already-established structure. Let's keep in mind that under his watch, Galileo has been exhonerated, apologies were given for (some) of the Inquisition, and the possibility of people of other faiths not being condemned to hell has been broached. Certainly, he's no John Paul I, but if John Paul I was indeed murdered (I'm not claiming either way), it's not surprising that his replacement might be a little more cautious.

[edit on 16-8-2004 by AlexKennedy]


I thought JP1 was only pope for a month.



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