Originally posted by IndieA

My point is, freemasonry is man's attempt to understand the world.

Close, but needs a small correction...

Freemasonry is man's attempt to understand himself.

question for the masons? Where does the masonic word IAOM pronounced ee ahh ohm fit in ? is this word a syncretism of Iao and Aum ? or is this word to secretive for your discussion? Is there a fear of study of this word possibly pidgeonholing masons as pagans ?

is so secret that initiates are taught it one letter
at a time. First they learn A, then O, then M, and finally I. The
Word is IAOM.
You never get a straight story as to what it means. As best
as anyone can figure, it is the ineffable name of God, or some
approximation thereof. The Word (or Name) is a tongue-twister. It
takes some practice to get it right. The following pronunciation
guide is from MASONRY AND ITS SYMBOLS IN THE LIGHT OF THINKING AND
DESTINY by Harold Waldwin Percival:

The Name is pronounced as follows: It is started by
opening the lips with an "ee" sound graduating into
a broad "a" as the mouth opens wider with lips
forming an oval shape and then graduating the sound
to "o" as the lips form a circle, and again
modulating to an "m" sound as the lips close to a
point. This point resolves itself to a point within
the head.
Expressed phonetically the Name is "EE-Ah-Oh-
Mmm" and is pronounced with one continuous out-
breathing with a slight nasal tone in the manner
described above. It can be correct and properly
expressed with its full power only by one who has
brought his physical body to a state of
perfection...

seems like someone remembered something from the beginning of the universe.


light would be the first thing to come into existence besides heat.


why would that be prevalent in creation theories and scientific too?

Originally posted by fooks
light would be the first thing to come into existence besides heat.

If we are going to be technical, gravity actually came before light.

Originally posted by Saurus
I beg to differ - gravity is a product of mass - photons of light have mass and therefore cause gravity...

The graviton is the force carrier for gravity as the photon is massless.

The photon is massless...

Please see:

Planck, M. (1901). "On the Law of Distribution of Energy in the Normal Spectrum". Annalen der Physik 4 (3): 553–563.

I cannon fathom anything before light from a physics point of view (but then, I'm a chemist, not a physicist, so someone else may shed even more light on the matter than me...

Light was not imediately observable at the creation of the universe as photons were unable to form until sometime after.

Originally posted by Saurus
My God, anyone who understands that paper should be awarded a PhD!

I'll take your word for it...

The maths are a bit above my level by I appreciate the theoretical aspects of the paper.

The photon, if it even has a mass, has been found to be at its heavist 3x10−17 eV. Not that they are saying it has mass, but that its upper limit is know to be below that precise calculation, 3 times 10 to the 17th less than the weight of an electron. This is the extent of our experimental ability to test but as each test gets more precise the upper limit continues to get samller as it approaches being completely without mass.

have studied the old testament and i would have to agree with some fraternity fellows i have discussed with that the verbage sounds almost as if light was being "suppressed" and now " let there be light" i realize that translating bere# into the english genesis from ancient hebrew to greek some original meaning will be lost but to me genesis sounds like one of the elohim telling another to " let it be" color me perplexed