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Two Suns or Two UFOs Seen Over Ocean at Taiwan on National News, UFO Sighting News.

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Nikola014

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by Manhater
 


See my previous post. The event is very real. However, people are linking a real event to a nutjob conspiracy theory. There is no Nibiru. It's been debunked for a long long time now.


But what if this is really a Nibiru or Planet X?


there cannot be a nibiru, not anywhere near our solar system anyway.

simple physics should tell you that.




posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:26 AM
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You never know, simple physics could be wrong.
We've seen weirder things happen.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:26 AM
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i have to agree with previous posters on the gravitational pull and all, it'd be more than enough to make things go haywire around here on earth. plus, given the mad summer temperatures we havta go through and still have to work hard as if this wasn't enough, just imagine how the hell'd break loose with two suns heheh, i think we're better of with a single one.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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Why wouldn't you tell me?

If you're saying that it's impossible that Nibiru exist?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by Manhater
You never know, simple physics could be wrong.
We've seen weirder things happen.


it could be wrong, but somehow i doubt it.
if it does exsist, i hope we get reasonable warning, still have some things on my to do before i die list.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by misscurious

Originally posted by Manhater
You never know, simple physics could be wrong.
We've seen weirder things happen.


it could be wrong, but somehow i doubt it.
if it does exsist, i hope we get reasonable warning, still have some things on my to do before i die list.


But why do you think they can't be wrong?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 07:07 AM
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i took pictures of the sun last week and didnt see this



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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By why can you see this phenomena rarely?
Why can't you see it every day?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Manhater
 


Easy.

Go outside.

Find sun.

Explained.


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And how would this explain how the second sun appeared in the video?

Why not share your scientific explanation instead off these sarcastic remarks that are only meant to attack the poster and are not about explainin or education or anything positive at all.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by CaptainInstaban

And how would this explain how the second sun appeared in the video?

Why not share your scientific explanation instead off these sarcastic remarks that are only meant to attack the poster and are not about explainin or education or anything positive at all.



I can actually explain this....

This has become the new method of discrediting, and make no mistake about it, I am just as guilty as others. As this site has grown, we have seen a lot of the same threads over and over and over again. Threads that did have some real research done, real explanations that really went above and beyond to find the truth. That is what made ATS such an amazing site to be apart of. However, this site has grown to unprecedented levels. As the same information gets rehashed numerous times, people get to a point where we literally see things and say, "This again?" So new or less active members may miss some threads, you can bet that the more active members have seen it, probably participated in it, and did everything they could do to explain it. So when we see it again and again and again, it becomes much easier to simply be a smart ass than to have to go back and do the exact same research all over again to prove your point.

Do not get me wrong, I am NOT saying Chadwick was right.... but I understand.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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I saw it from Guam in 2009.

They are steering Typhoons towards China.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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But it does explain the video in the OP.

Namely, go outside, away from the computer screen to see for yourself that there are not two suns.

It's really quite simple.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Wow, logical fallacy, or just plain stubbornness and inability to admit, and apologize for mistakes in behavior.

Not such a really, really big man afterall.

The video features two suns. Going out and seeing one sun, does not explain why the video shows 2 suns. It´s really quite simple.

I have witnessed you taking these shortcuts often, the last weeks.

For instance people from all over the globe are claiming that something is up with the position of the sun, lots of stories about the sun casting shaows or light in places it had not in the decades before.

You dismiss these stories with remarks about how amateur astronomers would have noticed, and about how Stonhenge still alligns.

This is correct, but it doesn´t rule out all these observations, and it makes an intesting phenomenon, but you won´t even acknowledge that, wich seems a bit closeminded.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Going outside will show that there is only one sun.

Just the one, so clearly there are not two suns in the video...call it CGI, lens flare, reflection I don't care because the fact of the matter is there is one sun, that's it mate, just one.



For instance people from all over the globe are claiming that something is up with the position of the sun, lots of stories about the sun casting shaows or light in places it had not in the decades before.


Oh so there are TWO suns AND they're not in the right position???




You dismiss these stories with remarks about how amateur astronomers would have noticed, and about how Stonhenge still alligns.


I call it proving it wrong with empirical evidence.

Fact is peoples recollections and memories are rubbish, this is a fact and the longer the memory, the worse it gets.

So I will ALWAYS take verifiable data over peoples memories.

A 4000 year old monument can't be wrong, 4000 people can.

My eyes looking at the sun RIGHT NOW (but not right now because it's night) trumps a stupid youtube video.


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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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Let me guess, Nibiru turns invisible? Seems that if it was real, it wouldn't magically appear and disappear. Probably is an optical illusion.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
Let me guess, Nibiru turns invisible? Seems that if it was real, it wouldn't magically appear and disappear. Probably is an optical illusion.


Any proof?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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Why do people use youtube to explore the sky.

That's like using a cracker to wide your ass.

Get outside, Look up and report back what you see...

Geeez



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Just the one, so clearly there are not two suns in the video...call it CGI, lens flare, reflection I don't care because the fact of the matter is there is one sun, that's it mate, just one.
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The OP is about the two suns in the video, a poster asked for an explanation as to why there are 2 suns in that video.

That was the fact of the matter.

Once again, going outside and seeing one sun, does not explain how the video showed two suns.

Instead of giving an answer on why 2 suns appeared in the vid, you chose a sarcastic remark that did not answer the question, with the sole intent of being less than sympathetic.

No way for you to wriggle your way out of that.




Oh so there are TWO suns AND they're not in the right position???


I said for instance, meaning I was using an example of how you use indirect proof to debunk, or even ignore a obvious and new phenomenon, wich is not scientific at all.




I call it proving it wrong with empirical evidence.


No, it´s called dismissing or ignoring evidence, because there is evidence that it is not so, not taking into account unknown factors.

You don´t have omnipotence, and you don´t have a complete picture, you are only dismissing a real phenomenon, because it doesn´t fit the obvious pieces of evidence.

That´s closed mindedness.

There is a situation where the sun could appear to be off in certain places on Earth, and not in others.

You really think that the influx of reports, seperately from each other, are all cases of bad memory, why right now, never heard of these claims before.

Why are people sharing their memory loss right now?
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by cluckerspud
Why do people use youtube to explore the sky.

That's like using a cracker to wide your ass.

Get outside, Look up and report back what you see...

Geeez


well, it would of been nice in the video, if others saw it, and not just the one family. Surely, someone else had to see it. Like his neighbors. I won't dismiss the fact that it may or may not be real or cgi, but, you can't also dismiss that fact, that it may be real. In some areas of the world, it may look like that, and in some areas, it might not. And, only look like one sun. So, who really knows. I don't. And I won't pass judgment. And, it does look like a real video. But, does not look like no optical illusion.
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