7000+ Accounts and 70 Police sites taken down in the name of AntiSec

reply to post by MemoryShock

AntiSec is a "merger" of Anonymous and LolSec

No that's not quite true.

Lulsec being cowards after they ran out of jailbait and started getting owned ran back to the cover of anon citing the "50 days of luls" cover story while pushing a fake anti sec movement, Have you noticed how the main targets of anti sec are still up and not getting attacked while the participants go against what anti sec stands for.

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This is not going to end well.

I understand that they are aggravated that some of their buddies got busted but informant information online as well as officers who put their life on the line, that is not good.

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by AnotherYOU

 

You must know that internet censorship is coming whether Anon is here or not. They're the only ones actively fighting it and bringing the debate to the forefront. If they didn't, internet censorship would be slowly sneaked in under cloak and dagger through quiet legislation only on CSPAN. By that time, it's too late to fight back. The fight MUST be taken to them first, otherwise all is lost.

This should be repeated. Endlessly. Until people get it.

TPTB were always going to crack down on the net. They have made their intent clear. Anyone who thinks Anon is or will be the cause just isn't very bright or isn't paying attention.

What TPTB wanted to do piece by piece, slowly, stealthily, so as not to wake you, they will be forced to do faster, more openly and sloppily, for all to see. And if all see, there is a chance that there will be resistance.

Even eventually resistance from the likes of you who blame Anonymous and dream you can still escape an inescapable fight, and that if you just keep your heads down everything will be OK.

It's the corporate hackers that keep me fired up. I formatted my hd a week ago and reinstalled my system, and have already picked up 22 trojans. Ghostery picks up sometimes 14 trackers on one website. So what makes what they are doing legal? If you are online, you are a target period.

I think there is both a positive and negative sides to what LulzSec & Anonymous are doing, but what i think is most important is that people are starting to stand up for what they believe, it may not be what you or i believe but they are making themselves heard which is where alot of people are found lacking, i guess only time will tell where there true intentions lie but so far they havn't really released anything that should be frowned upon they are merely showing what they are capable of.

There is something I am having trouble with.
If you are against Anon or any other anonymous hacker group because you think they are CIA or government related, then you ARE against the government.
Let's be clear. If you are, or have been military police, and you WOULD support these "rebels" if they weren't "hiding behind a computer screen", then doesn't that make YOU a coward? You must find strength in the numbers that are around you while you go trampling the rights of others.
You would have to have your head buried in the sand or mainstream propaganda not to understand that there are only two sides in this war. If you don't know what side you are own, you are the enemy to those that do know when the orders are given.
Pick a side, there are only two until the criminals that run the federal government see justice, if ever.

Someone had to take the bait.

Expect them.

Let's say there is an offensive (to a group of protesters) marketing sign on a building, and a group of protesters come and stand in front of the sign, hence blocking it from public view, and making the intent of the sign-advertising, "ineffective," and it results in loss of revenue for the owner who posts the sign.

Should those protesters go to jail for taking part in something resulting in loss of capital gain, while they are exercising their constitutional rights?

How is protesting paypal by launching operation payback different, in principal, other than the protest being in cyberspace, and instead of people physical blocking a sign, packets stood in front of the visibility of a company?

The company itself was not physically attacked, only it's visibility, and if hackers really wanted damage; were there not any skilled enough to actually steal money from the company?

Looks like cyber-protesters to me as far as Operation Payback was concerned. I'm sure a good lawyer will use this defense.

Operation Paypal was not a dDOS but as one user on twitter said, a "dBOS," or "distributed boycott of service."

All these so called "attacks" have done nothing, BUT when the U.S. realizes the people have real power, not in dDOS attacks, but in dBOS demonstrations, they pass a new cyber-bill. (see thread yesterday on senate passes bill, etc).

I am sure more organization will come, and more power will be given, and distributed legally and peacefully. Imagine 200 million people participating at once in a boycott of a certain service, company, etc...just for one day. BILLIONS lost in revenue, and when money doesn't come down the shoot, companies wake up and realize they are in check, and are at the whim of people, not controlling the whims of consumers.

For people thinking the CIA is behind it...maybe it is, unofficially.

For some reason...I think the CIA has gone entirely rogue against the Federal Government (unofficially). Would the American people ever know that there is a rogue federal agency working against it's own country's corrupt government? Of course not. If certain agencies were to follow the constitution (i.e. CIA, an agency with very little strings attached to it's feaux puppet master) then this (working against a corrupt government through black-ghost operations) is just protocol.

Originally posted by visualmiscreant
It's the corporate hackers that keep me fired up. I formatted my hd a week ago and reinstalled my system, and have already picked up 22 trojans. Ghostery picks up sometimes 14 trackers on one website. So what makes what they are doing legal? If you are online, you are a target period.

Sounds more like you need a good antivirus there are several good free antivirus's out there and a good script blocker also. And quit going to crappy web sites.

Originally posted by Malcram

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
reply to post by AnotherYOU

 

You must know that internet censorship is coming whether Anon is here or not. They're the only ones actively fighting it and bringing the debate to the forefront. If they didn't, internet censorship would be slowly sneaked in under cloak and dagger through quiet legislation only on CSPAN. By that time, it's too late to fight back. The fight MUST be taken to them first, otherwise all is lost.

This should be repeated. Endlessly. Until people get it.

Every time anonymous or one of its other names pull off attacks like this they help their cause, as in the governments and corporate elite to gain control over the internet, not the other way around.... You can believe otherwise all you want, but anonymous is aiding and accelerating the movement within governments and the corporate elite to gain control over the internet... It is exactly anonymous' activity like this that will make it very easy to push through new laws and legislation that will ultimately change the internet into a corporate run and content controlled environment, where the government will restrict and regulate access and log activity, you wont get online without proper identification and authentication when they have those powers, and when you are online all content will be controlled by the media corporate giants, and their advertisers.

This is in part what anonymous is helping them to bring about.

That is why none of the leadership, or key players in anonymous have been brought to justice... Yet!.... Their usefulness will not last for much longer, enjoy the fun and games while it lasts.

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Got it worked out, thanks...

Why don't they do something constructive like taking down the credit reporting agencies

Retired Army Signal Intelligence Officers have been training police forces as well as giving them software to do their own spying.


But most of them are just using their new tools to look into peoples homes via their webcams and playing tug of war with their body parts. Kiddy pedophilia by cops via Federally given tools...oh my.

Put duct tape over your webcams for crying outloud, people are looking into your homes.

reply to post by Malcram


I don't know the statistics, but the only real people who care anything at all about internet censorship are hacktivists, hackers, and people for internet freedom. Everyday people who only care about the little world bubble they live in do not care. As long as it doesn't interfere with their everyday routine then they could care less. So, saying this, there is not going to be a whole lot of drama about this thing being passed. It probably wont even be on the news. Aside from that, I have talked to people at work about things going on and even gave them a what would you do if this happened to you scenario. Their response was they would shut their mouth and do as they were told so it would not be more trouble than it was worth to them. They said they would go along with whatever they were told to keep from causing more trouble.

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"Locks are only for honest people"

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Reminds me of when I was in the army and we had to pull red cycle (detail cycle) at the post switchboard. They had the old stuff then where you had to take a cable and plug it in to complete a call (late 70's). You could plug the cable into any connection and listen in to the homes even when the homes' phones were hung up. I realized back then that things aren't always like we're told they are.

Anyone paying attention? I mean real attention?...You are allowing sock puppets to lead you astray..You do understand that in Nazi Germany,Soviet Russia or any other totalitarian state the people prolonged their own suffering by miss trusting each other? Every attempt to get out from under foot is viewed a a government plot to capture your true feelings....

Just remember we humans are much alike, how you feel is bound to be echoed by others...Do not listen to anything but your own heart and mind..


Everything people claim that TPTB are using Anon for,they are doing anyway without Anon...Do not listen to me tho, Do not listen to them either..

They are demanding the realease of the people who have been arrested

It looks like they might have even more sensitive data that they know what to do with, ill follow this with some tweets below here.

YourAnonNews: Anonymous It's like the whole world collectively is saying # you to any and all government. 6 hours ago

YourAnonNews: Anonymous Word is that we are sitting on more sensitive data than we can ever upload. Just a matter of selection now. Arrest us. We dare you. #AntiSec


AnonymousIRC AnonymousIRC
by AnonymousPress
We will not rest until every single one of our political prisoners are freed. This is unlikely, we know. Until then: Game on! #AntiSec
7 hours ago

YourAnonNews Anonymous
RT @AnonymousIRC: Free Mercedes. Free Trivette. Free all the rest of our friends. | Non-criminals. Citizens. Civil Protestors. #OpPayPal

They may not know exactly what kind of presents they're opening.
But if they have data on hand like that, perhaps they have a lot of really sensitive data that can be released, they're perhaps waiting for the right time to do so.

My two cents:

The internet "censorship debate" is stupid and pointless. The Government can not and will not control the people to such a degree. If you really believe that the Government can and will try to pass censorship laws governing the Internet then that shows how little you actually understand about the underlying technologies that make up the "Internet".

Firstly, I seriously doubt most of you understand that neigh unbreakable encryption is available to any of you - free of charge. You don't want the government to read your email? It's called PKCS (Public Key Crypotraphy Standard) and really is almost impossible to break (and really is free). There are even web enabled services such as "Hushmail" that are free AND convienent.

Secondly, you can surf the internet anonymous via many modes - SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) encrypted web proxies are one example. SOCKS Proxies, TOR and countless other technologies exist to ensure your privacy on the web.

Third, you don't even need to use ISP's TLD (Top level domain) controllers either. They have free "Darknets" available that are completely anonymous, don't utilize the domain system, encrypt all traffic and are truly anonymous. Unfortunately, they are riddled with pornagraphy and illegal material (but this should attest to it's foundation as being private and untrackable). Search Freenet and "Darknets" on google for an introduction.

Fourth, even old technologies are being revamped that could potentially de-centralize the need for ISP's to provide connectivity. One such example is "Digital HF Radio" that, given the correct environmental conditions, and couplers, can connect the entire world together using old HF Radio.

So in closing, worrying about "how" the Government and TPTB are going to shutdown and/or censor the Internet is IMHO a moot point. They can't. They can try, but they won't. And as far as Anonymous, AntiSec, LulzSec are concerned - there will always be people who push the limits of any given system (wether it be technological, social, political or authoritarian). It is what it is. At the very least, they are helping our Government realize the threat of outside attacks (which could be truly devastating.)

Could someone post what anti sec stands for? or at least the fake version of anti sec that the sheep seem to of gotten in to recently.

Hushmail HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..................................................................just no