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How Long Are Germans Going To Be Vilified For?

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:06 AM
The germans aren't being vilified. The 2nd world war remains a subject of many movies because those movies are made/funded by countries that could consider the result of that war to be an unambiguous win. The last such win with mass appeal.

The Nazis make good cartoon villains and english speaking heroes can be shown to be beating them down without anybody getting offended.

In any event, aliens are the Nazis of the 21st century cinema. Everybody can cheer a bullet in an alien skull without guilt, its good box office.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:12 AM
Germany ceased being vilified in 1996 when Bill Clinton started closing all those military sites over there we had.

He also trucked out alllll of our chemical weapons and most of our munitions we had stored in Germany. Train cars were leaving every day for over a year.

The Kaiser Wilhelm Society of German mad scientists were taken to England, America, and Russia and they all worked deep inside our military bases. Those projects are now over and alllll of those scientists are now back in Germany.

Those German Mad Scientists are now back to work in their own country:

Those are the mad scientists of Germany that created weapons that killed many people in WW1 and 2. Soon 3.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:13 AM
The Germans ARE being vilified, and will continue to be. How many Holocaust movies have there been? How many movies on the atrocities that were committed against the Germans?
Think of it this way. Most Germans were against any maltreatment of the Jews, and there certainly was a lot. But, how many know that roughly a million German POW's were allowed to starve to death, women and children across the country raped and killed. The Germans were no more guilty than YOU or I are now for the death of innocents across the middle east. You are aware... because friends, the USA is much worse than Germany. If you don't yet thinks so, you will. The killing isn't over yet. Let's hope WE don't suffer the same fate as the Germans for allowing bad things to happen.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:22 AM
Perhaps they will stop being vilified once they stop making porn inspired by wartime atrocities. Without going into detail, much of German pornography is degrading to say the least. Now where do you think they got an appetite for that sort sexual deviance? It's clearly an echo of what was done to captured Jewish women and girls.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:28 AM
I post a link here because I can't hardly bear ignorance.
We have a Zionist controlled Media, and SELECTIVE history lessons, but being ignorant IS a choice.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:34 AM
reply to post by SirClem

I'm not guilty of murder since I have never committed such a henous crime.

All my European family never escaped the Nazi Concentration Camps alive. They were all wiped out, every single one of them.

If most Germans were against any maltreatment of Jews, then perhaps all my family and other European Jews would had survived Nazi Germany...along with German Christians and Russians forced in to hard labor and Nazi Concentration Camps. A majority of your "most" Germans just stood by, said nothing, did nothing and looked the other way.

You think the Germany people really care for the Arab Muslims in the Middle East? They have more than enough Muslims vilifying Germany as I type. 25 years from now, they will become a majority in Germany.

If Germans want my sympathy.....they can kiss my butt!

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:36 AM
Seriously, have you actually asked a few German folks about their opinion on the matter?
Generally all around the internet and even German members of my own family really couldn't give a monkeys. They find comedies ripping the piss out of Nazi's (Faulty Towers, Harry Enfield, Allo Allo) completely hilarious.
They DONT want to forget the wrongs they inflicted on Europe & beyond, they don't want it to be forgotten lest history repeat itself.
I don't think any German needs the OP fighting their corner, infact it's probably insulting.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:46 AM

Originally posted by The Cusp
Perhaps they will stop being vilified once they stop making porn inspired by wartime atrocities. Without going into detail, much of German pornography is degrading to say the least. Now where do you think they got an appetite for that sort sexual deviance? It's clearly an echo of what was done to captured Jewish women and girls.

This Movies do not come from Germany,
the majority is from the US of A.!

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 09:50 AM
reply to post by Dr Expired

Please tell me where your Ancestors come from!!!

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:00 AM
reply to post by bluemirage5

German peoples populated much of the United States. In Texas, we have many "German" towns. Germans are not evil, no more so than you and I are. If they were, WE were. If they are, WE are.
Pointing out "evil" Muslims does not cleanse yourself of blame. You are quick to blame the Germans, but look at yourself. Do you really know what is going on the world today? I think not.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:25 AM
Being German myself and living in Germany my entire life, I do get offended occasionally when you are reduced to the WWII stereotype Nazi. To me it just doesn't make any sense, since I was born a short 43 years after the war ended. I watch a lot of American TV/movies and whenever some comedian breaks out that oh so funny German accent (always in an angry tone, of course) I'm like 'Really? Can't you come up with anything new every once in a while?'
What's funny to me is that in all my life living in Germany I have never witnessed anyone talking about Jewish stereotypes, in American culture it comes up all the time, even though it's mostly brought up in a comedic context, but still I find that interesting.

Originally posted by The Cusp
Perhaps they will stop being vilified once they stop making porn inspired by wartime atrocities. Without going into detail, much of German pornography is degrading to say the least. Now where do you think they got an appetite for that sort sexual deviance? It's clearly an echo of what was done to captured Jewish women and girls.

May I ask what that has to do with anything? Unlike you, I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to international pornography, but I'm pretty sure that there are perverts all over the globe. How many of us 82 million people do you think engage in these types of activities? I don't mean to be disrespectful, but your point was a tiny little bit stupid.
edit on 31-7-2011 by Bullhorn because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:29 AM
When was the last time you saw a major Hollywood movie about:

- The Stalinist purges?
- The Russian gulags and their keeping German POWs until they died many years later?
- The Japanese attrocities against the Chinese or their human experimentation programs?
- The Armenian massacres?
- Genocide of Native American tribes (trail of tears, sand creek, wounded knee, etc.)?

I could type all day but you get the point.

"Nazis" make a convenient stereotype for American audiences - Arch villain flavor of the day.
Or maybe the script writers don't know squat about history.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Dr Expired

I dont think present day Germans are being vilified, remember the citizens of the time had no choice in what the Nazi party did.

So i dont think they are being vilified anymore as present day people, however what happened in the past should never be forgotten in the hope that it never happens again.

I agree, I don't think they are vilified either, unless something like this thread comes along.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Dr ExpiredHow long are we going to vilify a nation?

As long as there are people on this planet who want to imitate the Nazis,

then there needs to be an example of how they should be denigrated. Oh so sorry if it happens to be the people who allowed it to happen in their country. 62 million people died in World War II at last estimate. There's a reason we destroyed the Nazis. They don't belong on this planet. Those who refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it.
edit on 31-7-2011 by CryHavoc because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:08 PM
Germans are also notorious for heinous sex acts as well.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:13 PM
im skipping captain america, and any war film from now on, because its all propaganda.

i was in new york once, and a hassidic dude walked up to me, to tell me about his rabbi. TRUE STORY. i told him i have all the religion in my life, i do not need more! ha.

anyways, he tells me, 'how dangerous new york city is.'

now, if you live in the city, you know, manhatten is pretty much all safe at this point. but his religion is teaching him, not only is manhatten dangerous, the ENTIRE world is dangerous, and at any moment, 'they ' could come and 'take him away.'

the reason hitler is on tv every single moment of the day (i DARE you to flip thru your digital tv, you will see some cruddy show glorifying hitler or the spooky nazis) the reason he in tv, is this same reason this guy is being brainwashed into thinking the world is dangerous.

read the proptokols of xion. EVERYONE should read that book. it is amazing everything they spoke about in their meetings in 1850 has come true today.

so basically, the xionists want everyone in the world to live under their system. fear mongering, outsourcing, taxes, inflation, 2 class system, war, fascism, etc.

in order to do that, they always need to 'scare' people. and they have made the 'nazis' the former worst on earth. now the poor moslams are being slammed into the villain card. its ALL a scam. its all to centralize power, to centralize governments, to centralize corporations, to bring about a one world horror show.

hitler was a scumbag, because he was a sociopath, AND because he was a rottschild. that is how he got his loans to go to war. from the JEWWWISH international bankers, warbergs, rottschilds, shiffs, etc.

i love how captain america was 'invented' 3 years before world war 2 by two 'comic book greats' who were so 'talented' they had to CHANGE THEIR LAST NAMES. captain america is a propagandist too by two racist ethnocentric 'talented' creators who wanted brave americans to die in a senseless war because their rabbeyes told them so...
again the xionists trying to dump their way of living onto americans.

the reason germans will ALWAYS be the 'nazis' on tv, is because they need to constantly tell people about how they need to enforce aparthide. they STOLE palestyne from the free PEOPLES of the world. and w2 is their only 'excuse' for it.

a german in w2 was JUST DOING HIS 'patriotic' duty when he was forced to fight. its DISGUSTING anyone had to die in w2, except for the sociopath old men who decided to kill 200 million people, no one should have died.

but when i was growing up, the only thing they taught us, and they taught us this as early as 2nd grade, was the mythical 6million. no one ever taught me 30 million russians,20 million chinese, millions of others all died. all we were BRAINWASHED into learning, was their precious mythical 6million.

so, as long as the rottschilds want to keep hold of palestyne, the germans will always be the scape goat.

trust me, its GROSS. seriously, turn on your tv, you will see hitler right now. the guy has been dead for seven decades, yet he is on tv every moment of every day. think about that. think about the REASON they need a bad guy.

read the protokols of xion. everyone has to read this book.

PEACE, LIBERTY and EQUALITY are the opposites of what the xionists want. since the xionists are in control of the world, and the world is quickly going down the crapper, you gotta do the opposite of what they want. when the xionists say go to war, we go to peace. when the internationalists want to outsource, we need to produce HERE in the usa, and put back into place import taxes. when the xionists try to steal our liberties with fascist laws and lobbyists, we need to FIGHT them at every bill. and when the xionists send our brave troops to death, we need to say no, bring our troops home.

read the protokols of xion, and you will find out why the germans, moslams, etc are the 'villians.'
if you do not like it, lets figure out a way to dethrone these people from their perceived position of power and racist elitism.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:14 PM

Originally posted by SpringHeeledJack
... Just stupid, lazy Americans.

I don't know if you wrote this like you did to make a point or not, but I think it really does show our collective need to define a country by its popular stereotypes.

It is interesting that out of the many holocausts and atrocities, the Jewish holocaust is by far the one that is heard about the most (it is definitely the first one I ever learned about in school, and the one I learned the most about). Thus, it makes sense that the perpetrators would become such far-reaching bad-guys.

Nazi movies are super popular, and look at how the Nazis are being portrayed in many movies now... as supernatural demons. This illustrates how our societal consciousness has embellished upon what we have learned... the human Nazis have become evil creatures with special powers. (It does make for some awesome movie material though!)

Anyway... I guess my point is that our human psychology is generally geared to the act of categorization. We put things in boxes and say "This is now that". And so we take what we've seen in the media and apply it to the whole group. Similar to the media showing all Native Americans as spiritual shamans who can shape-shift into popular wild-life species. We like to put everything in its box, and unfortunately the boxes we are most exposed to are the ones that we see on TV.

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:15 PM
more jew hating, pro nazi babble. I spit on you all

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Dr Expired

Does anyone realise how many of the germanic women were raped brutally by the invading Allies?
How many women and men were murdered by mainly Soviet victors?
Does anyone realise how much of Germany was reduced to rubble?
Does anyone care?
The answer I have concluded is no.
edit on 30-7-2011 by Dr Expired because: clarity and speiling

You are right,the Germans do come in for a fair bit of vilifacation on a reglar basis,why? well could it be to divert attention from the atrocities being commited by the western allies in the various illegal campaigns being conducted across the globe? i.e you think we are bad what about the Nazis?

Yes the Western allies most notably the Soviets did perform appaling violative acts against German females on their march to Berlin,yet the Nazi's performed unspeakable acts on Soviet civilians.

I imagine that quite a few murders were commited by the mainly Soviet Victors,how many murders were commited by the SS on their rampage through the Ukraine and western Russia?

Germany was virtually flattened by allied bombing raids,as were Stalingrad,Coventry,Warsaw,Prague etc by the Luftwaffe

Does anyone care? Of course they care,who in their right mind would wish those appaling acts to be commited by any side during a conflict,unfortunately the lesson does not seem to have got through to our present day murderers of innocent civilians in Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya etc.

Perhaps the lesson will hit home when the camps start to appear in Idaho,New Mexico,Yorkshire or Grampian?

posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:58 PM

Originally posted by dantanna
im skipping captain america

I've seen the movie twice. It's a fun show. To be honest there's only 3 Nazis in the movie - and at one point, the Bad Guy talks about invading Berlin. I always looked at comic books (and the movies) like they were like the Star Trek Mirror Universe (I think I'm mixing metaphors). It's not 'propaganda'. It's just fun fantasy. It's fun to see the Good Guy kick the Bad Guy's ass. (And Cap's Shield in the movie is wicked! I want one.)

Would you not see Iron Man because he's a Billionaire CEO?

Or Thor because he's a Religious Icon?

It's just a movie.
edit on 31-7-2011 by CryHavoc because: (no reason given)

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