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reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 08:36 AM by DeReK DaRkLy
reply to post by dolphinfan




To even consider this kind of move you would have to be fully supportive of three things - A literacy test. - A civics test - A reasonable high poll tax Absent that you would have absolute mob rule


Everyone's argument seems to be that people are too dumb to do anything.
Gee... could this be because we have been purposely dumbed-down by our leaders????




reply posted on 23-11-2011 @ 08:52 AM by DeReK DaRkLy
reply to post by Maslo




Democracy 2.0


That's a great catch phrase... sums it up nicely.


reply posted on 3-2-2012 @ 08:31 PM by ownbestenemy
Calls for a Direct Democracy always interest me because I get the perception that those who call for it do not think the political theory through. Instead it is just called for and assumed that all the ills of the country would instantly disappear if we were all allowed to cast our votes upon legislation.

Using data from 2010, we can see how many registered voters there are across the nation. Estimates put approximately 217,000,000 persons eligible to vote, out of that number only 90,000,000 actually turnout to vote. That puts a nationwide turnout to around 41%. So either way you have the minority, which is the majority imposing their desires upon the rest of the country.

Lets do some though exercises and present some scenarios in just how disastrous and dangerous it would be to have Direct Democracy on a Federal (well, it would become National) scale.

Scenario 1 – Using the OPs ideas

A legislative bill is introduced that calls for every person in the nation to receive a monthly stipend from the Treasury. The bill is presented on a secure government website and we all log on to cast our vote.

How many people do you think wouldn’t vote to receive free money?


Maslo’s ideas

Rule of the Wise sounds neat, but again is just as dangerous. Eventually the “Wise” majority will become smaller and smaller until there is a very small and protected “wise” class that has adjusted, via a Direct Democracy, the rules to make it into the “wise” to even cast a vote.



reply posted on 5-4-2012 @ 10:17 PM by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by DeReK DaRkLy



My GF's husband was a State Rep. and he spent ALL his free time while the legislature was in session reading bills. He was one of the few that actually read all the bills. I don't think it would be very practical to have the individual citizens do this when you can't even get them to go vote. That is talking about the state level. The federal level is a whole new consideration.

Something that certainly should be a consideration is the amount of legislation that is on the table. I bet a huge percent of it is nothing but trouble. Who would/could determine what is worthy of consideration and what isn't would be quite a task.
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