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Preliminary report on Alien Tissue and Fluid samples. PROOF, folks.

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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that video is screaming the word fake




posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Kenan2
The moment I read "proof" in the topic title that's when I know it's bulls**t.


Yup, and when it says "offical" you know to stay away from it also



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Can you please provide real proof? All I see is a claim being made and some very unclear photos. Immediately, this whole thing sounds like a shoddy hoax.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by AusiAnarchist
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Do you have the link to the radio interview?

Yup. Right here . www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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I remember the stories coming out of "the Ranch " many many years ago
with all sorts of bizarre paranormal things going on ,...
I dont think I have ever seen pictures of the property , people involved or anything else ,...
& the last reports i remember hearing was that the funding for investigators had dried up & the govt had actually bought up the property & sealed it off ,....again this way many years ago
Does anyone have any current & verifiable info on this place anymore?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Most posters are concentrating on the wrong thing here, who cares about Levengood, who cares about the farmers story and whether it is crazy or not. Yes the Samurai sword story does seem very crazy although if you felt you were threatened by something unknown wouldn't you use whatever weapon you had available.

This is about supposed actual biological tissue presented that cannot be identified as anything known. The important thing is where is the tissue now, what labs received samples, are those labs considered reputable and reliable. Can they definatively come to a conclusion that the tissue is not of this earth.

Just being something they haven't seen before probably does not prove anything, there are many undiscovered species on this planet. Every day something new is discovered.

The tissue is the interesting part for me in this story as that would be actual physical evidence.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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No Bodys ?

Bodys vanish yet blood and tissue remain ?

Blood samples are the same as found on mutelated cattle ?

Credentials in question ?Too many loose ends .

This is indeed strange ..



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by WingedBull
The dear Dr. Levengood is a fraud. Nothing he says can be trusted. He claims he got a "PhD equivalent" from the National Institute of Science, but the NIS does not issue "degree equivalents". This was uncovered by Kevin Randle and written about by William Mosely in the December 2002 issue of Saucer Smear.


what the # is a PHD "equivalent"
if that's what passes for credentials, I've won an academy award for best actor. I got the "equivalent" statue at a store on hollywood blvd.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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I officially move to have this thread placed under [HOAX].
Let's just end this quickly.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Is it me or does the DULCE story sound familiar? Me thinks this story was concocted from the Philip Schneider story, unrelated to this story. The mystery that surrounds Philip Schneider's alleged suicide "murder" leads me to think the DULCE story may be true. But that is a whole other can of worms to open in itself.



As for this story we have:

A farmer claiming to have dismembered an alien entity with a Samurai sword
Missing alien body, no mention of what became of said body.... nada
A poor photo of a blood sample, no magnification ect

This story is so bogus beyond belief, i own a Samurai Sword "WW2" as well as fire arms. Now most farmers i know own guns. Usually to shoot at varmints and unwanted animals that kill livestock. But this guy grabs a sword and kills ET yet ET is unable to subdue him "unlike any abduction story" and goes all storm shadow on ET. I mean a technologically advanced species travel across a ocean of time and space only to resort to hand to hand combat with some farmer? Oh wait... i mean from the joint alien military underground base just over the hill.

Meh seen this movie before Saturday morning as a kid, cant remember the name.


edit to add: i would shoot the summa b%%#@ before even thinking of using my Samurai Sword. However only if it was a life threatening situation.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Hmmmm Rancher & Samurai Sword + Gray Alien throw in a sprinkle of decapitation and looks like we got a Hollywood blockbuster on our hands?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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As much as this sounds like a hoax, what in the world is so damn weird about the sword??!

So the rancher, or cowboy, whatever, most likely owns a gun? Or multiple guns? Multiple weapons? Maybe a machete for cutting crops? Why is it so weird the rancher would own a sword? In 2008? Aren't ranchers suppose to be rich?? They own a farm and acres of land, and farming equipment, the costs of maintaining livestock....

I guess it's totally outrageous and offensive for a rancher to own any Asian artwork in their home...or antiques from around the world....



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Cowboys And Aliens



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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real or hoax ... I fail to see why that matters

I'm firmly of the opinion it doesn't - simply because if "they" are "out there" - they're not talking to us, therefore, the real answer will be found when you ask "why aren't they talking to us"


I have my suspicions. And many responses throughout this thread only solidify them (yes I read EVERY SINGLE POST)


Meanwhile, I'm throwing out everything in the story but the samples.

If the samples are real, and any DNA (or other) testing is done, it'll take eons to get it released for peer review (if ever) - till then, I suspect most people will file it under things like the star child.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:21 PM
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Is it possible that the greys returned later and retrieved the fallen greys remains "No Zeta Reticulan left behind" policy? Like we do with our own fallen in battle? Kind of like the movie predator.

Or

The grey regenerated from the two halves multiplying in to two greys from the severed halves? Like Dr Reed's rutter Alien in the fridge sprang magically back to life and ran off in the woods back to his obelisk.

Thank god no Dogs were harmed

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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OK the radio report doesn’t say the ET exploded. It squirted a lot of fluid and then disappeared. Disappeared could mean teleported. As for the samurai sword, it is a weapon you can buy as an ornament and leave hanging from a wall. Unlike handguns, riffles etc which most responsible gun owners have stored out of view in a gun cabinet. The farmer said something along the lines of "when you are repeatedly abducted you start to collect weapons.", sounds plausible to me. The samurai sword just happened to be the weapon at hand when he managed to overcome the alien mind control. The alien didn’t have any means of defense handy because it didn’t expect its mind control to fail. According to the farmer they didn’t make this mistake a second time as the next time the aliens visited they were cloaked in some form of force field.

They have samples of alien goo. Has anybody found DNA and or chemical analysis of the alien body fluid?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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That is a good point, me thinks of the little girl in the movie "Signs" collecting all those glasses of water to kill the alien with, or Merrils ball bat? Are you someone that believes in coincidence or luck? This story is entirely plausible. I will quote from the film.
www.imdb.com...

People break down into two groups. When they experience something lucky, group number one sees it as more than luck, more than coincidence. They see it as a sign, evidence, that there is someone up there, watching out for them. Group number two sees it as just pure luck. Just a happy turn of chance. I'm sure the people in group number two are looking at those fourteen lights in a very suspicious way. For them, the situation is a fifty-fifty. Could be bad, could be good. But deep down, they feel that whatever happens, they're on their own. And that fills them with fear. Yeah, there are those people. But there's a whole lot of people in group number one. When they see those fourteen lights, they're looking at a miracle. And deep down, they feel that whatever's going to happen, there will be someone there to help them. And that fills them with hope. See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, that sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?


Swing away Merril... swing away!
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Now please don't take this the wrong way. I'm open-minded to the possibility and no one wants proof of alien visitation more than I do. But I have to ask. Why is this pattern always repeated?


  • OP says proof has been found. (The articles linked to doesn’t say, "PROOF, folks," as part of their title anywhere. Only the title of the thread says that in those words, at least that I can see.)
  • Story makes claims including assertions regarding peer review and forensic evidence.
  • It is pointed out that the journals aren't particularly well respected peer review journals.
  • It is pointed out that there should be bodies, photographic evidence, the names of the labs the forensics were done at, etc.
  • OP says they aren't asserting that this is real, but only sharing it with us. (If that was the intent, please don't take this the wrong way. I do appreciate the intent. But why the title of "PROOF, folks" if there wasn't scientific certitude yet?)
  • Credibility of the story's origins or corroborating witnesses called into question. There is some evidence to support the suggestion of a lack of credibility.
  • Evidence, however, also exists of potential attempts to smear or bury those individuals.
  • Posters go back and forth between the two scenarios (The claimant not being credible, and the claimant being truthful but smeared.)
  • No real irrefutable proof beyond the initial claims is ever directly presented.
  • The crux of the claims (in this case the alleged biological tissue samples) is lost in all of the above.
  • Doubt persists.


If undeniable, irrefutable proof exists and they have it and they want the world to know it, why is it so hard to produce? They should be able to put all questions and doubts to rest. They should be able to produce the forensics, photographic evidence, lab results, etc. in an overwhelmingly convincing and completely undeniable fashion. Instead there are vague insinuations, claims, and evidence both for and against their credibility.

Again, I am open to the possibility. I'm ready to see the proof. I'm not trying to debunk anything. I'm not making any assertions about what did or didn't happen or what they do and don't have. I'm not saying "I know for a fact this is a hoax," because I don't. All I'm saying is please, please, please show me the proof. And if it's there, why isn't it overwhelmingly obvious? If they have proof, why is it even questionable? Why is there any doubt? By my definition, that means it isn't proof.

Just my two cents. Peace.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Oh this is splendid.

So a cowboy who is actually trained in the art of Samurai swordsmanship is out on his farm one day and sees an alien from outer space. Naturally he has his sword on him, as he is a very skilled Samurai and doesn't go anywhere without it. He chases the alien, which apparently can't run very fast and chops it in half.

He then wipes up the blood and tissue from the alien (which he subsequently loses). No, maybe he fed the alien body to his dogs. But it's ok because he still has a tissue sample from the sword. He then calls in a scientist whose specialty is pyrex. No need to get in a zoologist or biologist because any scientist will do. They are all isomorphic for the purpose of studying space aliens, (though it is required that they have a beard capable of catching at least 147g of biscuit crumbs).

He then sends off the samples to some labs which are not named and they come to the extraordinary scientific conclusion that they've never seen any animal, plant or human (which for the purposes of this story is not an animal) which is like it. But they have seen similar samples from other very dubious locations. Now I'm not a scientist and all this science is overwhelming me. It's all the techinogical words you see. So maybe someone can explain that highly technical information to me.

Anyhow, on the basis of this non-information, they then conclude that it was indeed a space alien.

This is really fantastic stuff. Which fiction book is it from by the way!?



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