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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by MidnightTide
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Really going to hurt when the members of the NWO are running that "machine" and could care less about the people around the globe. Heck, that one world government wants to get rid of most of us. Unless you are on that short list of people who get to live, better hope that NWO doesn't become reality to quickly.



On the short list?

Hell, I am one of the ones making the short list, I am just trying to figure out if any of you lot are keepers...so far, I got nothin...



Wow, that's pretty nervy of you to assume you are on the short list and everyone else here are expendable, but then that is the perfect description of a typical lib environmentalist who thinks everyone else is a uesless eater but themself. Might you be on Soros payroll ?


Payroll?
I am Soros!

(this conversation jumped the shark long ago btw)




posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Undertough

Originally posted by crimvelvet
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You could do the search yourself. but here it is


Or you could be honest about it. I asked when Obama threatened people with the prospect of not receiving their SS checks. Not one of your links supports that. I did not need to do a search for it because I already looked into this claim and Obama never threatened anyone.
The sticker on my car battery explaining that it could explode if overloaded is a warning, not a threat. Obama was not the one holding anyone's checks hostage and he never threatened anyone that they would not get them. He did inform them that if this was not resolved, they may not get them. Big difference.



And yet you apply the same literal translation of the word "threaten" to T Parties as well. When was the last time a Tea Partier came up to you and literally threatened to lower your tax liability? When did a Tea Partier come up to you and threaten you with sabotaging the "worldwide" welfare?



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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hahaha ok at least you have a sense of humor.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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A little perspective on the Democrats, who are oh so willing to point out flaws in the Republicans.




William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed. DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct. Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings. Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996. James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments. Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child. Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park.. Eliot Spitzer- Democrat - New York governor - resigned from office after being tied to a prostitution ring. Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts. Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison. Melvin Jay Reynolds - Democrat U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison. Wayne Bryant - Democrat NJ state senator- was convicted was found guilty on all 12 counts against him including bribery and pension fraud. Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison. George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison. Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care. John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator. Otto Kerner - Democrat governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968 was jailed after the manager of two horse-racing tracks admitted to bribing the then- governor; charges were filed after Kerner left office he was convicted in 1973. Dan Walker - Democrat governor of Illinois from1973 to 1977 served less than two years of a seven-year sentence for receiving improper loans a decade after leaving office. Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page. Hiram Monserrate- Queens City Councilman and state Senator-elect - who has claimed to be an advocate of victims of domestic violence - was arrested for breaking a glass over his girlfriend's face. Monserrate, 41, a former cop, won election to the state Senate as a Democrat in November 2008. James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997. Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty. Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000. Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000. Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980. John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000. John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges. Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of coc aine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack coc aine. Sentenced to six months in prison. Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts. Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison. Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts. Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation. Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours. Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison. Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors. David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape. Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy. Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges. Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war. Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner. Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI. James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks. John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation. Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison. David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison. John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute. Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement. Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison. Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion. David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation. James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation. Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion. William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison. Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation. Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison. Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty. Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison. Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office. Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison. Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison. Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam. Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate. Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison. Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor. Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate. Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation. Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000. George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government. Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses. Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge. Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion. Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation. Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
its a given that anyone who pushes communism has never lived under it.

It was a dangerous time...

Just after WWII came a short peaceful time, but the United States didn't forget about the attack at Pearl Harbor (1941), and realized how important it is to keep the Military. Josef Stalin placed Russian KGB agents all over the Western world and raised several communist parties all over the United States and Western part of Europe. It was Stalin's vision to make the whole world to be one communist state. The era of the Cold War began which included the Cuba Crisis. There was the fear against the communists. Even Walt Disney got involved in the fear against the communists. Rumors says that even Walt Disney worked for the FBI. Walt Disneys' employes wanted their salary increased, and Walt Disney then went crazy and called his employees communist sympathisers. It was not an easy time. The Cold War included the space race. NASA had been working very hard to sent out an astronaut in attempt to be the first man in space, but suddenly on April 12, 1961, Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin became the first man in space in stead, and became the hero of the Soviet Union. The Americans were bad loosers, angry, frustrated and sad about that it was not an American who became the first man in space, and said >>Damn Russians!



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Or you could be honest about it. I asked when Obama threatened people with the prospect of not receiving their SS checks. Not one of your links supports that. I did not need to do a search for it because I already looked into this claim and Obama never threatened anyone.
The sticker on my car battery explaining that it could explode if overloaded is a warning, not a threat....



YOU did not do your homework. I DID.

Whether those checks go out or not is UP TO OBAMA! His is the power so it is therefore a THREAT!!!!

Look up the plan for a controlled shut down of the government. If you have to do the work this time maybe you will actually learn something.



I learned long ago not to trust the MSM as a first source.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by haarvik
It's amazing how many people are against the banker elite and rich corporations, yet when the perfect opportunity comes to give them all the finger, they are against it and label the Tea Party as the enemy. Simply blows my mind. Of course that is a typical liberal, I am against it until I am for it. Remember John Kerry? Yup, no different. It's ok to run your mouth until the reality of getting what you want might actually have an impact your lifestyle, then it's a different story! As long as it doesn't affect you, you are all for it!

As my earlier post here sas, the TP was funded by elites specifically the ultra-rich Koch brothers. So there is not much difference.
It also furthers their agenda: cut social obligations and taxes (for them). They are the kind of folks who buy 230,000 dollar trained guard dogs.

I respect the grassroots idea but this is not genuine.
Do the numbers, it is not social spending that brings America to ruin. It is bailouts, wars for the sake of foreign countries and partly foreign investor clubs.
I mean the biggest military budget of the entire world!

And who attacks America? Mexico? Canada? Fidel Castro?

Who pays mercenaries hunderds of thousands each year per person?

I know Obama continued some bad trends - but this TP "solution" is not a good solution. This is the solution of deeply ideological, ignorant people led by their noses by finance capitalists and their money and their agenda.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Payroll?
I am Soros!

(this conversation jumped the shark long ago btw)


Why am I not doubting that?

I know I've had several cluster headaches over the past couple of days, and they've left me a bit groggy...

But WHY am I not doubting that?




edit on 2011/8/3 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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Fund raising, and going on vacation, without funding the FAA, give me a break, are you getting an Obama welfare check, the tea party is saying where are the jobs, stop spending our money, yes yours, mine, now they YOUR Democrats want to cut YOUR furture SSI benefits, while they get full retirment, And Health, but this you don't complain, about 4000 jobs five weeks no work for the FAA, Nasa 140000 jobs, not to mention the coffee shops and delis, ALL this Obama AND the Democrats, So if a Plane Crashes Because of no FAA oversite are you going to blame the TEA party



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by haarvik
It's amazing how many people are against the banker elite and rich corporations, yet when the perfect opportunity comes to give them all the finger, they are against it and label the Tea Party as the enemy.


Yup, is is illogical to me that we blame the sins of the previous representatives on the new comers.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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Of course they are anti-democratic...

America was never intended to be a "democracy".....we are a Constitutional Republic.

As far as your other assertion about abuse of power, what do you call BO's Council of 13 for crying out loud?!?!?!?

The Tea Party is a representation of what the Republican Party is supposed to be.

This false left-right paradigm endless argument makes my head hurt



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by nenothtu
One is government, one isn't. I'll let you figure out which is which.

It's near impossible (but not completely so) to avoid government, but not corporations. Don't have to do business with them if you don't want to.


If they control all the physical variables and natural resources...you do.


Correction: if "they" have control of the resources I want then I do. The key there is to not give them control of my stuff.


I agree. We should not allow "the rich" to have control of the physical variables. They have proved they can't be trusted with our environment.

Money is a distraction; we need to focus on the water, air, land, and natural resources.


Originally posted by nenothtu
I don't want anything bad enough to beg or bum it.

Like the song says, "I ain't askin' nobody for nuthin' - if I can't git it on my own.
If you don't like the way I'm livin' just leave this long-haired country boy alone."


I agree. No need to beg, or ask, or try to convince "the rich" it is the right thing to do.

It is too late for that.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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The TP is like that crazy cousin you have to invite to family reunions, and he always shows up drunk/stoned and only wearing one shoe...but of course he screams the loudest (even if what he screams doesn't make any sense). That pretty much summarizes the Palin/Bachmann fail-train


I'm saying "Palin/Bachmann fail-train" because as long as those guys are leading the TP, I can't really take them seriously. Why?

Because they both lie as if their lives depend on it. Want proof?

Here:

Palin
Bachmann

You'd have to be a retard to believe their words given their track record


Being half-Swiss, I appologize to everyone for the worst Swiss export ever...Michelle Bachmann (she has Swiss roots).
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posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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You seem to misunderstand. I'm not getting into a class war with "the rich". I don't care about them enough to engage. They've got nothing I want. All my "stuff" is already mine.

I've got my own to look after, and I care nary a bit what they do with theirs. Every thing I need, I already have. The rest is just icing, and I can take it or leave it. If the rich want to play hardball, I'm not game. They can eat their damned gold for all I care.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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As my earlier post here sas, the TP was funded by elites specifically the ultra-rich Koch brothers. So there is not much difference.


Anyone who believes the TP isn't primarily acting for big business is dillusional


Then again, that's true for the other 2 parties too


The whole "for the people by the people" doesn't hold true anymore, it's now "for corporations, by the people"...happy times.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by haarvik
A little perspective on the Democrats, who are oh so willing to point out flaws in the Republicans.


Read the thread title.
Read your post.
Go look up "irony."



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Yeah, I know...lol!
Every once in a while I have a DUH! moment!



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10
The fall of the Soviet Union happened, and the Berlin Wall broke.

Yeah, that's right, the Berlin wall broke DOWN!

The coming economic collapse



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Kokatsi

Originally posted by haarvik
It's amazing how many people are against the banker elite and rich corporations, yet when the perfect opportunity comes to give them all the finger, they are against it and label the Tea Party as the enemy. Simply blows my mind. Of course that is a typical liberal, I am against it until I am for it. Remember John Kerry? Yup, no different. It's ok to run your mouth until the reality of getting what you want might actually have an impact your lifestyle, then it's a different story! As long as it doesn't affect you, you are all for it!

As my earlier post here sas, the TP was funded by elites specifically the ultra-rich Koch brothers. So there is not much difference.
It also furthers their agenda: cut social obligations and taxes (for them). They are the kind of folks who buy 230,000 dollar trained guard dogs.

I respect the grassroots idea but this is not genuine.
Do the numbers, it is not social spending that brings America to ruin. It is bailouts, wars for the sake of foreign countries and partly foreign investor clubs.
I mean the biggest military budget of the entire world!

And who attacks America? Mexico? Canada? Fidel Castro?

Who pays mercenaries hunderds of thousands each year per person?

I know Obama continued some bad trends - but this TP "solution" is not a good solution. This is the solution of deeply ideological, ignorant people led by their noses by finance capitalists and their money and their agenda.


No, you don't respect it at all and you don't know anything about the Tea Party but what some liberal rag website or CNN says about it.



posted on Aug, 4 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Kokatsi
 





As my earlier post here sas, the TP was funded by elites specifically the ultra-rich Koch brothers. So there is not much difference.


Anyone who believes the TP isn't primarily acting for big business is dillusional


Then again, that's true for the other 2 parties too


The whole "for the people by the people" doesn't hold true anymore, it's now "for corporations, by the people"...happy times.




It's "delusional", and it has nothing to do with corporations or elites, it is for bringing back the values of our Founding Fathers and getting our Liberty back with limited govt. How many times do we have to keep saying it? See you want to believe the liberal rags and not the people in the Tea Party.
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