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The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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Perhaps Saturn is mistaking the Powerful Ruling Elite and Bankers for what he wishes were the Scientist/priests of old who ruled on Atlantis. Unfortunately, the return of the mad scientists who destroyed Atlantis have come again to create bizarre DNA crosses between human and animal or fish. The powerful elite are anything but the wise sages who ruled a Golden Age in the Sahara desert(reference:Unveiled Mysteries by Guy Ballard).




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Ya, but thats a different matter all together, thats UN, I was talking about US.

I support a one world government actually.




Ok, please tell me why you support a One World Govt? What benefits do you think a ruling elite determining the rights and lives of 6 billion people evolving on this planet? What right do these people have to decide our use of resources?


Umm, are you really, truly that PAINFULLY unaware that your description better matches the CURRENT state of the world, owned by multi-national corporations and Western Imperial powers?




Remember those Death Panels?

I remember that that was an entirely unfounded bit of fearmongering perpetuated by shady shock-politicians like Sara Palin, yes.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Get out of here means get out of here in my lexicon. You are one of the more rude people I've encountered here. But that's fine. I take it all with a grain of salt. The sad thing is that you know not what you do.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Undertough

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Glad you asked.
We have a GDP of about $14.7 Trillion. That's not bad.
Apple is blossoming thanks to free market capitalism.




No point in going one bit further. Apple makes it products in Chinese slave shops. That is your example of the booming American economy with UE at what now?


Apple has suppliers all over the world.
Yes, Apple is creating jobs in China and the USA.
Have you seen their latest design for the NEW corporate HQ in Cupertino?
Wow! I wonder how many jobs will be created building that new HQ???
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Long live free market capitalism!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


Get out of here means get out of here in my lexicon. You are one of the more rude people I've encountered here. But that's fine. I take it all with a grain of salt. The sad thing is that you know not what you do.


Idiom

dictionary.reference.com...!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Ya, but thats a different matter all together, thats UN, I was talking about US.

I support a one world government actually.




Ok, please tell me why you support a One World Govt? What benefits do you think a ruling elite determining the rights and lives of 6 billion people evolving on this planet? What right do these people have to decide our use of resources?


Umm, are you really, truly that PAINFULLY unaware that your description better matches the CURRENT state of the world, owned by multi-national corporations and Western Imperial powers?




Remember those Death Panels?

I remember that that was an entirely unfounded bit of fearmongering perpetuated by shady shock-politicians like Sara Palin, yes.
edit on 1-8-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)




I am completely aware of it, but it is going to be WORSE not better. See how that works? They have just got started and have to get the good ol USA out of the way before it can be complete.
Yes the Death Panels are in the legislation. Pretending it's not will do you no good. The problem here is that you think that Capitalism is the problem and you think that some Socialist Utopia is going to fix it for everyone. So let me know when Michelle pays off her student loan and Obama gives away 2/3 of his pie to the poor people in East Africa. OH wait, he's giving your money to them, I forgot.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Apple has suppliers all over the world.
Yes, Apple is creating jobs in China and the USA.
Have you seen their latest design for the NEW corporate HQ in Cupertino?
Wow! I wonder how many jobs will be created building that new HQ???
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Long live free market capitalism!


Apple is going to create jobs because they are having a building built? Sounds to me like they are going to give some contractors A JOB. Interesting that you could not rebut the fact that your example is so flawed. You cannot use a company the makes its money off of Chinese slave labor as an example of how the US economy is doing well. I do not even know how you can pretend our economy is in good shape but when you think paying people in China almost nothing helps people in the US in anyway it might make a little sense to me.

I asked how the economy was doing in the US. Your response is that Apple is building a new building.



Oooooooooooook!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


Get out of here means get out of here in my lexicon. You are one of the more rude people I've encountered here. But that's fine. I take it all with a grain of salt. The sad thing is that you know not what you do.




He is rude because you were ignorant of the line he used.

So glad I came back here.

"You are so rude for exposing my ignorance!!!!"

I love it!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Ya, but thats a different matter all together, thats UN, I was talking about US.

I support a one world government actually.




Ok, please tell me why you support a One World Govt?

I am a futurist. We will inevitably be a united type 1 civilization, this means a single unified world. This is a fact and it will happen, in how a tribe forms with other local tribes and becomes a village, and villages form together to become a kingdom, kingdoms form to become countrys, unions, etc...it is in our nature to instinctually come together and unite...stopping it is like stopping the tide from coming in..won't happen.
So, I embrace the concept.


What benefits do you think a ruling elite determining the rights and lives of 6 billion people evolving on this planet?

Resource distribution, corruption reduction, mass education, mass production, huge projects, exoplanet terraforming and colonization...aka, civilization progresses from the shaky starting.


What right do these people have to decide our use of resources?

Supply and demand..same right that the big oil companys today have to decide our use of resources...or steel industry, etc...hard to complain about something that has been the norm for thousands of years, don'tcha think


What right do they have to tell us how to live?

You live by laws every single day..its called being part of society..


Do you understand that your way of life as you know it will end?

Fearmongering paranoid delusions...stop watching scary nwo nonsense and become active in the process to guide it...it will happen, you cannot stop it, but you (not specifically, but you as in we the people) can guide it to protect local soverienty while the overarching unification can happen.
But, you wont (personally this time), because your too busy trying to scream about stopping the tide..

The more thoughtful see this as an absolute with no possible chance of stopping it though, so direct their attention towards promoting their vision of it...

You complain that elites will control the world and everyone will suffer...well, someone will control it all (currently its corporations)...why not try to enhance your particular view of it and start a movement on that verses just close your eyes and plug your ears and say no, hopeing it will just magically go away and we will go back to being amish.


Water, land, and all other resources will be rationed, as well as health care. Remember those Death Panels? Are you ready for that? If so, WHYYYYY?

Not worthy of a response..akin to answering why I want reptilian ghosts to rule over us and turn us into frogs...aka, nonsense.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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For the record on Death Panels


So America, you thought that the “end-of-life” care language was dropped from ObamaCare? If you said yes, you would be wrong. Obama and Democrats claimed that it had been dropped because of the outrage from the people. However, like most everything these people do, they snaked it in under the cloak of darkness through the regulation-writing process without telling anybody.


When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.


Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.


scaredmonkeys.com... -telling-anybody/


wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Yes the Death Panels are in the legislation. Pretending it's not will do you no good.


No, there are no 'panels' of people deciding if you live or die. This has been addressed so many times its absurd. You are making a mockery of yourself.


The problem here is that you think that Capitalism is the problem and you think that some Socialist Utopia is going to fix it for everyone.


No, see, that is a straw man, and an absurd, baseless conclusion.I have said nothing even beginning to resemble that. You might as well say I eat live puppies for breakfast.

Perhaps if you could learn to debate people on FACTS and WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY SAYING, instead of your steady stream of baseless accusations and straw men, you could learn something., advancing your knowledge instead of descending into absurd, baseless accusations.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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End of life counseling = death panels again?


Holy crap are you stuck in your partisan rhetoric. Having a doctor talk to you about how you might want the end of your life to go when you get to that point is nothing like deciding who lives and dies. If any of you had the truth and morality on your side in any of this you would stop making things up in order to try and make an argument.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
For the record on Death Panels


So America, you thought that the “end-of-life” care language was dropped from ObamaCare? If you said yes, you would be wrong. Obama and Democrats claimed that it had been dropped because of the outrage from the people. However, like most everything these people do, they snaked it in under the cloak of darkness through the regulation-writing process without telling anybody.


When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.


Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.


scaredmonkeys.com... -telling-anybody/


wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...
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LOL. I'm thinking you havent even read what you posted. 'end of life counseling' is not a 'death panel.

You might as well call seatbelts 'death straps' or some other absurd interpretation that willfully ignores reality.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Incredible you are just plain wrong. Too bad you and others like you support this horrid stuff and the horrid things this Socialist admin is implementing. It is ignorance extroardinaire, or at best a lack of awareness, or is it really malfeasance?
Ignorance means ignoring in case you decide to take up swords over that.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
The problem here is that you think that Capitalism is the problem and you think that some Socialist Utopia is going to fix it for everyone.


Please, substantiate this claim.

Or admit you just hurl baseless accusations because you are incapable of a rationale debate.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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According to his sources these death panels have been in place for 8 months now so I am sure his next post will be a list of the people the government put down for cost benefit reasons.

In the meantime, lets looks at someone who died as a result of an actual death panel
Congratulations Jan Brewer, your death panel was effective. A patient has died.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
 


Incredible you are just plain wrong. Too bad you and others like you support this horrid stuff and the horrid things this Socialist admin is implementing. It is ignorance extroardinaire, or at best a lack of awareness, or is it really malfeasance?
Ignorance means ignoring in case you decide to take up swords over that.


Lol. Calling Obama a Socialist is like Calling Bush a Capitalist.

You havent a clue of what you are talking about, and i feel sorry for you and your tiny, fear filled little world.

Watch out for bird shadows! They might actually be pterodactyls!




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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the problem is you have to get more people on work !!! so they have money to spend, so they push the economy forward !! the problem is that the neo-con liberals want to spend less and less, which also means more poverty in social programs, so less money to spend by lots of people and economy going down !
Middle class already going down !!
In this situation the state, the government really HAS to spend lots of money to leave the machine running !!!

YOU HAVE TO SPEND LOTS OF $$$$ TO LET THE ECONOMIC MACHINE RUN !!!! ...


Ain't going to work.

We shipped our jobs to China thanks to WTO

The ONLY thing that will work is get rid of the blasted RED TAPE!!!!!

....the Institute for Justice released a series of studies documenting government-imposed barriers to entrepreneurship in eight cities. In every city studied, overwhelming regulations destroyed or crippled would-be businesses at a time when they are most needed.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
 


Incredible you are just plain wrong. Too bad you and others like you support this horrid stuff and the horrid things this Socialist admin is implementing. It is ignorance extroardinaire, or at best a lack of awareness, or is it really malfeasance?
Ignorance means ignoring in case you decide to take up swords over that.


You are right.
Obama has been quoted saying we should just give pain pills to old people in
order to reduce costs. ObamaCare = rationing
Take a number and good luck.
That sounds like Canada.
No wonder they fly down here for medical care.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
For the record on Death Panels


So America, you thought that the “end-of-life” care language was dropped from ObamaCare? If you said yes, you would be wrong. Obama and Democrats claimed that it had been dropped because of the outrage from the people. However, like most everything these people do, they snaked it in under the cloak of darkness through the regulation-writing process without telling anybody.


When a proposal to encourage end-of-life planning touched off a political storm over “death panels,” Democrats dropped it from legislation to overhaul the health care system. But the Obama administration will achieve the same goal by regulation, starting Jan. 1.


Under the new policy, outlined in a Medicare regulation, the government will pay doctors who advise patients on options for end-of-life care, which may include advance directives to forgo aggressive life-sustaining treatment.


scaredmonkeys.com... -telling-anybody/


wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...
edit on 1-8-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


I support the death panels.

I want my Doctor to talk to me about options should I find myself with a fatal disease...I want him to give me all the options (keep me alive through machines verses just pull the plug when brain death occurs, massive radioactive treatments to give me a couple extra weeks in pain verses die).
Yes, I support death panels...

I would rather it be called for what it is though, life discussions...but meh, whatever...call a rose a stink plant and it still is what it is no matter what you call it.

Might as well name it the zombie panel (considering part of it is the clear instruction to keep you alive even after your a vegetable)

Your bloggers are spreading disinfo...and your buying it..the big insurance companys thank you for your continous propaganda support of their distortion campaign




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