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The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


Excuse me? Get out of here? Who the heck are you to say that to me? Geez people here have such gall. You think you are the only one entitled to speak an opinion? But then I think I have just rattled your cage a bit. No one says that who isn't just upset and feeling a bit emotional. People tell other people to leave a forum when they have nothing to back up their viewpoints.
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Excuse yourself. I stated "get out of here WITH THAT", in case you don't understand common English language, get out of here "with that" means you're BSing and to just quit it. Jeez... people here can be so thick.

You didn't rattle my cage at all... I'm just sick of hearing the crap that people like you say, it's like you're all playing by the same playbook of insane unscientific falsehoods and I have to perpetually knock them down. You rail against NASA... yet you have no obvious reason to. You bring up climate change when I MADE ZERO REFERENCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE... and on top of that, I'm assuming you're a denier which places you firmly in the "doesn't know squat" camp.




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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reply to post by Fromabove
 


What we have now is someone that is every Tea Party stereotype, all wrapped into one.

Really? Did you have to distort his name like that?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by dakota1s2
reply to post by inforeal
 


The "tea party" is exactly democratic. They are just a bunch of average people, mostly middle america group who see
this country headed in the wrong direction. They voted, democratically, to change that direction. What about all of the groups that support your leftist agenda. Example Media Matters, anything to do with George Soros and all of his groups that throw money, rallying the troups trying to change our country.

Why is it when you lefties don't agree with people it always comes to name bashing and whinning about being un-american. What's really bad for our country is the ignorant who blindly follow the mind mindset of Soros, Obama, Reid and Pelosi


As Naomi Wolf said of the old woman "They did this in Germany",
she is pretty much leftist too.

Both sides of the aisle are capable of horrible things, they just go about it in different ways.

The Nazi party was socialist, go figure right ?

Our corporate lackeys here are what Mussolini spoke of In Fascism, a
merger of corporate and state.

The symbols of the axe wrapped in rods hangs in the senate...the irony is unreal...

A corporation has more rights than a human being in this country.

I don't see the Tea party or any party fixing this and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
clarified as to why in the past.

He said it isn't getting fixed because too many ppl with too much power
and influence over the system have it totally rigged, I couldn't agree more.

So my warning is the same as it was years ago, get ready for it all to fall apart,
and the warning of many of a likely civil war in this country is quite likely.

As george carlin said before he died, we love war here.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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O.K. You agree Obama is a puppet for the NWO and is not a true progressive. Bush was not a true conservative and was also a puppet of the NWO, as was just about every president since Wilson. If you actually listened to Beck you would find he pointed this out many times. He is not a supporter of the republicans any more than the democrats. Neither are the Tea Party, but short of creating a third party, something the NWO would never tolerate, the closest they could align with were the conservative republicans. Much to the dismay of the old school republican members I might add. What Beck is saying is that the global socialist agenda of the NWO, co-opted the old school liberals under the guise of a progressive title, to enlist the youth of this country, to do its bidding which consists of creating social unrest as a diversion to the financial rape of the nation. On the other hand the NWO has bastardized capitalism by creating global monopolies that control virtually every commodity people need to survive. The trick was to play upon the terminology to polarize the people and thus nullify any power we the people should exert upon the government. According to this thread and the last several elections, they have been tremendously effective. There is no true capitalism in the system of monopoly. But the skillful method of defining capitalism as an enemy of the poor has produced the result that many younger and I might add , spoiled, generations have swallowed the bait , hook line and sinker. When you hear the Tea Party members say they support entrepreneurship and capitalism, they are talking about small business and what they thought was legitimate corporate enterprises. I'll admit that many Tea Party members are uninformed about the influence of the NWO. as are many in congress itself. Why? Because the very mention of NWO is considered conspiratorial and thus not worthy of discussion. This is true for a substantial percentage of the population. If you were to define progressive-ism and I gave my definition of capitalism I suspect we would be close to the same idea. Those who worked harder to create a business and made more money than the next guy would not be vilified, nor would I vilify helping those who by no fault of their own could not support themselves. So lets recognize that (we) are not the enemy.
Accept the fact that (we) have all been deceived, and concentrate on exposing the NWO for what it is and how do we extricate ourselves from it's grip. Regarding Beck, he never asked anyone to take his word for anything. Only that people educate themselves to the deeper motivations and cloaked agendas of both parties. By the way, nothing I ever heard from Beck was news to me. I've been awake for a long, long time. But I respect the man for having the balls to publicly speak about it. I don't blindly follow anyone. I do my own research.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Jobeycool
The Tea Party is every bit as much of part of a demoracy as the Reps and Dems.This kind of division is totaly insane.Just blame everyone else for the entire countrys fault.



The problem is that the rest of the world hears the opinions of DailyKos and Huffington Post and the MSM when it comes to what the Tea Party is about. They have heard Nancy Pelosi and Janet Napolitano deride Tea Party in the worst way. And why have they done that? It's simple, Tea Party is the true representative of Constitutional Liberty and American values and therefore the biggest threat to the spread of Socialism.


Bingo!
That's it. Thank God for the Tea Party.
May our numbers grow over the next year!
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Senator Jim DeMint appears to be the point man in Washington D.C.
I back him all the way.
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Unfortunately, during these days of crisis we can always count on Senator John McCain to
initiate a new round of - name calling -. He called the Tea Party a bunch of Hobbits.
We need to fire that loser ASAP. Replace him with a Tea Party member.
Wait a minute, didn't Sarah Palin move to north Scottsdale, Arizona? Hmmm......




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Marxism does not thrill me by any means. I assure you I pay no attention to the wizard behind the curtain when people try to tell me to study Marxism so that I know what it means. LOLOLOL


This is one of those great stage magic tricks. Leftists will SHOW you to the writings of Marx, and say "See? THAT'S Marxism! It says so right on the cover!"

That is, of course, the THEORY of it.

They without fail try to hide the PRACTICE of it behind the curtain, while showing you the illusionary rabbit pulled out of the hat.

What he is showing you is THEORY, which he hopes you will mistake for PRACTICE. What you see is PRACTICE, which so far in the history of the world has been diametrically opposed to the THEORY.

Personally, I prefer to watch what they DO rather than listen to what they SAY. Same goes for the neocons. Their practical application of their "theory" has far more in common with the practical application of Marxism than it does with any sort of conservative philosophy.

The pure facts of the matter from observation is that BOTH sides are herding you to the same goals, along slightly different roads.

Two sides, but only ONE coin.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu
The pure facts of the matter from observation is that BOTH sides are herding you to the same goals, along slightly different roads.

Two sides, but only ONE coin.



But you are going to vote for one side aren't you? You are going to continue to enjoy the benefits of this country without fleeing and you will be voting, no?

I cannot wait to read all about the actual Marxism in practice done by both sides that earns both disdain and at least one vote from you. Would you mind actually explaining where this Marxism is?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Excellent post, you did a good job of putting things into perspective.

It seems that the main reason people who support the tea baggers are on this thread is to distort the truth, and try to claim that the tea party isn't the same republican, conservative party that created all the problems that these people are complaining about.

The Tea party completely consists of right wing conservatives, who preach free market economics, ignoring all the damage that free market policies have done to the U.S., and the entire planet as well.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


Excellent post, you did a good job of putting things into perspective.

It seems that the main reason people who support the tea baggers are on this thread is to distort the truth, and try to claim that the tea party isn't the same republican, conservative party that created all the problems that these people are complaining about.

The Tea party completely consists of right wing conservatives, who preach free market economics, ignoring all the damage that free market policies have done to the U.S., and the entire planet as well.



Oh, that's a good point.
Has socialism/communism done damage to the entire planet???
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Have you noticed that Cuba doesn't exactly have a booming economy?
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Long live the Tea Party!



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Oh, that's a good point.
Has socialism/communism done damage to the entire planet???
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Have you noticed that Cuba doesn't exactly have a booming economy?
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Long live the Tea Party!


What is the economy like in the US right now?
One to be envied?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Undertough

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Oh, that's a good point.
Has socialism/communism done damage to the entire planet???
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Have you noticed that Cuba doesn't exactly have a booming economy?
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Long live the Tea Party!


What is the economy like in the US right now?
One to be envied?


Glad you asked.
We have a GDP of about $14.7 Trillion. That's not bad.
Apple is blossoming thanks to free market capitalism.
Intel and AMD are pushing 32 nanometer CPUs out the front door like crazy.
22 nanometer CPUs are on the way.
Why aren't other nations making CPUs?
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America is still magic because we have a financially strong middle class.
If we didn't have this terrible housing market wrapped around our necks, the
U.S. economy would be in better shape.
All we need is a capitalist in the White House.
Right now, we have a socialist in White House masquerading as a capitalist.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by Flatfish
 
So, why not move to California? They almost have their socialist utopia completed. No tea party influence, you should be golden there, right? I hope you don't need a job when you get there though.

...And when you've surfed on the beach of California, you could then take a trip to North Shore, Hawaii and surf

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

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Have you noticed that Cuba doesn't exactly have a booming economy?
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Long live the Tea Party!


Yes, the best way to prove 'the tea party' are a legitimate third party not beholden to any established parties or corporate interests is to compare the to Cuba! Excellent point!

Anyone critical of the 'tea party caucus' is likely a communist who wants to steal your shoes.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Ya, but thats a different matter all together, thats UN, I was talking about US.

I support a one world government actually.




Ok, please tell me why you support a One World Govt? What benefits do you think a ruling elite determining the rights and lives of 6 billion people evolving on this planet? What right do these people have to decide our use of resources? What right do they have to tell us how to live? Do you understand that your way of life as you know it will end? Water, land, and all other resources will be rationed, as well as health care. Remember those Death Panels? Are you ready for that? If so, WHYYYYY?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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But at least you know, "hey, this is socialism." You have a pretty good idea of what socialism is and entails....


Actually I think most progressives and liberals do not have any idea what our political leaders actually mean by "Socialism"

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller's purported remarks at a Bilderberg Group meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in June 1991

Most seem to believe they are advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism

Of course I may be wrong.

Saturn FX has already said he is for world government and my ultimate view of a perfect government cannot be implemented yet, but ultimately it is a technocracy where scientists and the wisest and educated lead... So he at least is aware of the direction we are being pushed.


Thanks to one of the elite socialists who was a bit of a blabber mouth we have a glimpse of "Socialism" divested of its warm fuzzy sheepskin.


SOCIALISM
“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470

EXTERMINATION OF THE “SOCIALLY INCOMPATIBLE”

“The notion that persons should be safe from extermination as long as they do not commit willful murder, or levy war against the Crown, or kidnap, or throw vitriol, is not only to limit social responsibility unnecessarily, and to privilege the large range of intolerable misconduct that lies outside them, but to divert attention from the essential justification for extermination, which is always incorrigible social incompatibility and nothing else.”

KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”

“The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296.
Source: George Bernard Shaw, “On the Rocks” (1933), Preface.
www.sovereignindependent.com...


George Bernard Shaw was a founding member of the Fabian Society. A recent chairman of the Society was the UK ex-prime Minister, Tony Blair. Tony Blair will earn around £2 million a year in his part-time role as adviser to the Wall Street bank JP Morgan

And so we circle right back around to the globalist banker David Rockefeller.


For those who dismiss the Fabian Society, it was a FABIAN SOCIETY PHAMPHLET, From Dictator to Democracy, that was spotted in EGYPT by journalists and suggested as a catalyst to the current unrest. Meanwhile Tony Blair will also continue to carry out his unpaid work as a UN Middle East envoy....

As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings, one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty -- but still relevant -- book, "From Dictatorship to Democracy."


The Fabians (and the Rothschild directed Rhodes Scholarship) have been busy for the past century turning out world leaders. George Soros went to the London School of Economics for example.

New World Encyclopedia - Organizing knowledge for happiness, prosperity and world peace.

Fabian Society


The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means....

London School of Economics

Four Fabians, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, Graham Wallas, and George Bernard Shaw founded the London School of Economics with money left to the Fabian Society, including a bequest of £20,000 by Henry Hutchinson....

The LSE was established to further the Fabian aim of bettering society, focusing on research on issues of poverty, inequality and related issues. This led the Fabians, and the LSE, to be one of the main influences on the UK Labour Party.[4]

The school was founded with the initial intention of renewing the training of Britain's political and business elite...

LSE in this sense must be looked at as the father of modern economics studies. Under Beveridge, Friedrich Hayek was appointed as a professor and he brought about the ascendancy of the LSE through his famous debates with John Maynard Keynes. The famed Keynes-Hayek debates which occurred between Cambridge and the LSE still shapes the two major schools of economic thought today as nations still debate the merits of the welfare state versus an economy solely controlled by the market. LSE's influence upon modern economics is undeniable since it both formed the very basis for economic thought as well as shaped modern perception of free market economics. Hayek's works continue to influence the study of economics across the globe. At the other extreme, during these years Harold Joseph Laski, a professor of political science at the LSE was influential in British politics as an advocate of far left policies. Many renowned world leaders including John F. Kennedy studied under his guidance at the LSE....

Anthony Giddens, the former director of the LSE, was the creator of the 'Third Way' followed by both Tony Blair (who unveiled the Fabian Window at LSE in 2005) and Bill Clinton. His policy created a balance between the traditional welfare state and the belief in total free market economics. This policy is being put into effect by governments all across the world as free market economies continue to deal with wealth inequalities and bettering the welfare of the general population...


Compare THAT drivel to what is actually happening, a slow return to a serf/lord system with the bankers and "intellectual elite" as the lords.

EQUALITY??? Yes equal poverty and slavery for ALL serfs as we continue to serve our lords and masters "an intellectual elite and world bankers"

Sorry I am not interested in banker socialism.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


Excellent post, you did a good job of putting things into perspective.

It seems that the main reason people who support the tea baggers are on this thread is to distort the truth, and try to claim that the tea party isn't the same republican, conservative party that created all the problems that these people are complaining about.

The Tea party completely consists of right wing conservatives, who preach free market economics, ignoring all the damage that free market policies have done to the U.S., and the entire planet as well.




Free Market yes. You communists really show yourselves when push comes to shove. I love it when you out yourselves. A few years ago people were trying to convince me that communism was dead. How wrong they were. You are all coming out in the open where we can see you and the fresh air and sunshine can burn off the rot.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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What US politicians are advocating for Socialism, again?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Glad you asked.
We have a GDP of about $14.7 Trillion. That's not bad.
Apple is blossoming thanks to free market capitalism.




No point in going one bit further. Apple makes it products in Chinese slave shops. That is your example of the booming American economy with UE at what now?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

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Have you noticed that Cuba doesn't exactly have a booming economy?
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Long live the Tea Party!


Yes, the best way to prove 'the tea party' are a legitimate third party not beholden to any established parties or corporate interests is to compare the to Cuba! Excellent point!

Anyone critical of the 'tea party caucus' is likely a communist who wants to steal your shoes.


Have you noticed the - paradise? - in Venezuela?



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