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The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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race based. That's pretty funny. That's the hilarious garbage spewed out of DailyKos and Huffpo, the Soros machine in order to deface the Tea Party and render it useless. You got punked by the commies bud.

In fact, it's really a travesty the first Black President of the US turned out to be an anti-American, anti-Constitutionalist Marxist communist globalist One Worlder. Ok well they will be One Worlders because the NWO has such a stronghold now. You can bet I would vote for Allen West in a heartbeat. Too bad he's not running this time.
edit on 30-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


Everything you've said here is f***ing insane and not based in reality. Seriously, do you ever take a step back and look at what you're saying?


Yes, always. Do you? We are just at ideologically opposite ends of the scale. You have your opinion and I have mine.


No... this is about facts/reason versus paranoid/feel-good propaganda. You cannot have two truths, especially with a statement like yours which is so far off base.




posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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"WHERE is the evidence that Soros is some kind of supreme puppet master, hmm?? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE. You really don't have any except overly-exaggerated/manufactured spectres to compete with the real puppet masters. Soros is actually one of the few DECENT billionaires out there. "
You need to do more research.
DECENT, ha, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.
Where's your proof that he's so decent. I have to go make dinner, I don't have all night to post my proof. You could look it up yourself, but you'll have to leave Huffington's website to see real evidence.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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Here's an excellent John Birch society production on the difference between Republic and Democracy.




posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


"WHERE is the evidence that Soros is some kind of supreme puppet master, hmm?? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE. You really don't have any except overly-exaggerated/manufactured spectres to compete with the real puppet masters. Soros is actually one of the few DECENT billionaires out there. "
You need to do more research.
DECENT, ha, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.
Where's your proof that he's so decent. I have to go make dinner, I don't have all night to post my proof. You could look it up yourself, but you'll have to leave Huffington's website to see real evidence.


The burden of proof lies on you. Funny how you shirk your responsibility in this regard and FAIL to provide proof when asked. DO NOT comment on this further until you can provide un-exaggerated facts.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Your post is on the point.
To his credit, Clinton recently recognized one of his failures - his promotion of the globalist club WTO from the POV of the Third World countries involved, like Mexico.
Clinton was basically a neo-liberal from an economic POV - whether you like classic Dem politics or not, his administration was much more monetaristic than his campaign rhetoric. Essentially, he failed to create national health care during eight years although that was partly why people had voted for him.
Dems on the left sometimes called him a Republicrat.
His handling of the Balkans crisis also invites negative comments to this day, although the man has his merits.

The TP is another issue - while they are right about some disctinct points, mainly critical points of government power etc. I think their populism is dangerous, their rhetoric is nationalistic, and, if elected, they would not really challenge the issues of Reaganite deregulation, or change the lowering taxes for the rich and corporations (GWB), which causes have certainly contributed to America's bad finances. On the whole, I find them quite a bit fanatical, idelogical, and allied to fundamentalist Christianity (which I think is no better than jihadism within Islam).

If they want me to vote for them, they would have to convince me that they are sober, sane citizens, who have better alternatives from the bottom up, and not just a bunch of shouting fanatical brownshirts who subscribe to a radical vision of standard GOP issues. Also, their mindless attacks on Obama unfortunately do not exclude some element of racism.
Otherwise, it would be time for the US to have some bottom-up thinking rather than only top-down.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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If you had actually opened the PDF, then you would have seen that it was an actual BUDGET PROPOSAL.
You only have to look at page 5 and 6, or is that to much work for you?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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You do realize that our forefathers based America off of DEMOCRATIC principles and societies of the past dont you??

This whole " 'MERICA AIN'T A DEMOCRACY IT'SA REPUBLIC!!" argument is ridiculous. This country is NOT black and white... certainly we have a REPRESENTATIVE form of government/Congress, however, Democracy and its tenets were highly influential (i.e. ancient Greece, the Iroquois League, etc.) upon the writing of our constitution.

Stop thinking in such partisan absolutes, you're drawing a line where there is none to fulfill a counter-productive sense of partisan division.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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The reality you so stupidly see fit to ignore is that THE LIBERAL LEFT HAS BEEN THE CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE, OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, ENVIRONMENTALISM, FREE SPEECH, FREE ASSEMBLY, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-CAPITALIST, ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-RACIST, ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN, PRO-HUMAN RIGHTS, PRO-WORKERS RIGHTS, PRO-CHOICE, PRO-SCIENCE, EQUALITY, PEACE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON... while the right-wing? All they can figure out how to do is RAIL AGAINST THE LEFT any damn chance they get... their ideology consists mostly of being anti-everything-the-left-is. Get a clue, buddy.


this is one of the most priceless posts i have ever read and when i look at obama and the democrats that we all have to come to know and "love"

well i all can do is



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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How about you not post again until you have facts.
Works both ways guy.
Your the lazy one, why should I have to do your work for you? Oh yeah, that's how it normally works huh?, we do all the work while you sit back and do nothing. Not today.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Exactly what paranoid, feel good propaganda are you referring to? Please be exact and specific. It's funny, at work I had some people telling me to "take this back" and I said back where? You seem to be acting the same way, involving vaguaries and undefined properties.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Show me the evidence the Koch Brothers are also in charge?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
 


If you had actually opened the PDF, then you would have seen that it was an actual BUDGET PROPOSAL.
You only have to look at page 5 and 6, or is that to much work for you?


I did open the PDF. Currently reading it. IF your claim was so simple, then why did you not satisfy my original request and highlight the portions you feel are substantial cuts, and explain why?

I mean, really, dont get all huffy with me because you cant be bothered to read the ink your provided as 'evidence'.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by neo96



The reality you so stupidly see fit to ignore is that THE LIBERAL LEFT HAS BEEN THE CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE, OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, ENVIRONMENTALISM, FREE SPEECH, FREE ASSEMBLY, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-CAPITALIST, ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-RACIST, ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN, PRO-HUMAN RIGHTS, PRO-WORKERS RIGHTS, PRO-CHOICE, PRO-SCIENCE, EQUALITY, PEACE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON... while the right-wing? All they can figure out how to do is RAIL AGAINST THE LEFT any damn chance they get... their ideology consists mostly of being anti-everything-the-left-is. Get a clue, buddy.


this is one of the most priceless posts i have ever read and when i look at obama and the democrats that we all have to come to know and "love"

well i all can do is


If you SERIOUSLY BELIEVE that Obama and some other Democrats actually represent the vast majority of Liberals then your comment is truly the most priceless/pathetic post I've ever read.

Obama and many other Democrats are centrist/slightly-right-wing corporatists who will only feed the populace some liberal/socialist crumbs enough to give false hope/satiation while they all-but-abandon truly Liberal policies.

THIS is why people like you are perceived as uneducated... because you are.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by neo96



The reality you so stupidly see fit to ignore is that THE LIBERAL LEFT HAS BEEN THE CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE, OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, ENVIRONMENTALISM, FREE SPEECH, FREE ASSEMBLY, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-CAPITALIST, ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-RACIST, ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN, PRO-HUMAN RIGHTS, PRO-WORKERS RIGHTS, PRO-CHOICE, PRO-SCIENCE, EQUALITY, PEACE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON... while the right-wing? All they can figure out how to do is RAIL AGAINST THE LEFT any damn chance they get... their ideology consists mostly of being anti-everything-the-left-is. Get a clue, buddy.


this is one of the most priceless posts i have ever read and when i look at obama and the democrats that we all have to come to know and "love"

well i all can do is





Exactly, the liberal left has done nothing but attack the right of free speech by Tea Partiers and virtually anyone who disagrees with their agenda. They have deliberately vilified anyone who doesn't agree to Obama's version of Hope and Change. They have supported the gropes and pat downs of TSA and Janet Napolitano, or blamed everything on Bush (lol), they have allowed bombers on planes, spent money on machines that rearrange DNA using radiation while experts have said they are dangerous machines. They want more spending and more taxes. They have increased the number of "limited wars" we are actively engaged in, not stopped them. They have engaged in ATF scandals, SEIU labor scandals, and the Trumpkas of the world have actively engaged in revolutions in foreign countries, and admitted it openly. They have forced legislation on us that we don't want, and they have looked down their nose at the People. The Liberal Left believe that children must be brainwashed to accept their agendas. They believe they have exclusive right to do so. They are usually atheist, God-hating people. I have yet to see a liberal who didn't relate more to the ape as their ancestor than to Adam and Eve



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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yep ad hominem attacks is another trait of all those "love" and tolerance liberals

thanks for making my point for me.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
reply to post by sickofitall2012
 


Show me the evidence the Koch Brothers are also in charge?


Here ya go buddy:
www.greenpeace.org...
and
motherjones.com...
and
exiledonline.com...
and
www.nytimes.com...
and
www.newyorker.com...


Funny how you're into Social Distortion... and somehow doubt the corporate tentacles of the Koch Brothers. Who got to you and planted right-wing propaganda in your mind, man?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy

Originally posted by neo96



The reality you so stupidly see fit to ignore is that THE LIBERAL LEFT HAS BEEN THE CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE, OF CIVIL LIBERTIES, ENVIRONMENTALISM, FREE SPEECH, FREE ASSEMBLY, ANTI-GOVERNMENT, ANTI-CAPITALIST, ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-RACIST, ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN, PRO-HUMAN RIGHTS, PRO-WORKERS RIGHTS, PRO-CHOICE, PRO-SCIENCE, EQUALITY, PEACE, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON... while the right-wing? All they can figure out how to do is RAIL AGAINST THE LEFT any damn chance they get... their ideology consists mostly of being anti-everything-the-left-is. Get a clue, buddy.


this is one of the most priceless posts i have ever read and when i look at obama and the democrats that we all have to come to know and "love"

well i all can do is


If you SERIOUSLY BELIEVE that Obama and some other Democrats actually represent the vast majority of Liberals then your comment is truly the most priceless/pathetic post I've ever read.

Obama and many other Democrats are centrist/slightly-right-wing corporatists who will only feed the populace some liberal/socialist crumbs enough to give false hope/satiation while they all-but-abandon truly Liberal policies.

THIS is why people like you are perceived as uneducated... because you are.


You say Obama does not represent most liberals because he is too centrist?
Well, then we shall see if liberals vote Obama out in 2012. This should be very interesting. Who would you replace him with? You say Obama is centrist? How is that? He is even more left than the pro abortion group NARAL. The first time I heard him talking about sex ed for kindergartners I knew what he was about. Then when he started talking about Spreading the Wealth it became completely apparent. He is a Marxist for certain. And so is Michelle. I will never forget her pie analogy. Don't forget that even though the Obamas jointly had about 4 million bucks to their name, she did not wish to have to pay back her student loans. It's quite telling. Where did that entitlement come from?
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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yep ad hominem attacks is another trait of all those "love" and tolerance liberals

thanks for making my point for me.


Nope, you're using 'ad hominem' incorrectly. What I'm doing is insulting you based on direct evidence that people who think like you in regards to the Nazis are uneducated... it's just truth, you cannot have different facts, only opinions. Ad hominem would be to say "you wear pink hats, and people who wear pink hats are usually fat, therefore you're fat". Ad hominem is NOT calling someone uneducated because of what they believe... because that's exactly what uneducated means- you believe things that are false.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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attacking others free speech?

oh now where have i heard that one before?

oh yeah when all those nazis burned books and what are books thoughts given form on paper




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