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Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
I have refuted you “ republic” guys twice already. If you don’t know that tis country is a democracy, because you read something about a republic, then you know little about history and the philosophy of government, not to mention that my OP said nothing about America being a democracy or republic exclusively. The fact of the matter is that technically this country is a democracy and a republic and not one over the other.
Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by KrazyJethro
America is a democracy and Republic!
The Tea party I said is anti-democratic. They have not remotely the majority of the American people supporting their issues and certainly not their methods.
Definition of democracy: a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
Originally posted by angrysniper
The basic premise of your argument, that the tea party represent a small fraction of the population - is invalid and not consistent with evidence.
"Taxes should be proportioned to what may be annually spared by the individual." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1784.
"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785
"The collection of taxes... has been as yet only by duties on consumption. As these fall principally on the rich, it is a general desire to make them contribute the whole money we want, if possible. And we have a hope that they will furnish enough for the expenses of government and the interest of our whole public debt, foreign and domestic." --Thomas Jefferson to Comte de Moustier, 1790.
"We are all the more reconciled to the tax on importations, because it falls exclusively on the rich, and with the equal partition of intestate's estates, constitutes the best agrarian law. In fact, the poor man in this country who uses nothing but what is made within his own farm or family, or within the United States, pays not a farthing of tax to the General Government, but on his salt; and should we go into that manufacture as we ought to do, he will pay not one cent." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1811
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Originally posted by MCP001
"Abuse of power"?!?
Do you realize how asinine that statement sounds?
Please explain how a MINORITY can abuse power over a majority?
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Bramble Iceshimmer
The idea, going back to pre Civil War state sovereignty, looks good on paper, but...
Some of the states can't handle the responsibility. California for instance.
Sure Texas and Lousiana would be fine, but most of the US is not like Texas.
We need to look at the problems facing the nation in a practical and not an idealistic manner. Idealism not tempered by realism is fanaticism, which will only result in making things worse.