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The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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The Tea Party is anti-democratic and guilty of abuse of power


Amazing people here don’t see that the blackmail that the Tea party is doing to the US government is dictatorial, anti-democratic, anathema to the US constitution, dangerous, and is setting a precedent for worst things to come.


Here is the scenario:

These 85 or so congress people voted in office in 2010 by Tea party support are not remotely the majority of the American people, yet they are using their newly acquired power to threaten the American system of government with default if they don’t get there way. In this scenario it is the debt ceiling that they are using to do their blackmail. Previously, raising the debt ceiling was, is, and has been a bi-partisan simple process, that even the conservative Republican Ronald Regan has denounced people for playing politics with. They, the Tea party are using this vulnerable part of the Governmental system to blackmail it . . . it’s that simple. This is an abuse of power, undemocratic, and fascistic. And those who do not see it this way. . . don’t because they are partial to the cause of the Tea party Republicans. When this very undemocratic method one day is turned against them—then they will see the danger that this is to a democracy. Turn the tables: what if 85 extreme left-wing congress people did the same thing to the country? How would you then feel about that?

As of now because of these people the US economy will likely default and enormous economic disasterous repercussions will be resultant.

So bottom line, 85 freshman congress people who don’t represent even 1 percent of the American people have taken over the Republican Party and have blackmailed the system to do their bidding and if not have threatened to destabilize the American economic system.

That is anti-democratic, and an abuse of power, and opposite everything the spirit and letter of the US constitution stands for.



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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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People voted the tea party in as a gut reaction.
It was like getting pissed and smashing a vase.
Now you have to pick up the pieces, and your vase is broken.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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No matter how you slice it, we are SCREWED...............At the local bank, there is a RUSH of old people pulling all their money out of their savings accounts and stocking up on food!!!!!! I'm seeing this with my own eyes!!!!! In a small town too, news travels very fast! So it seems to be picking up steam!!


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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The "tea party" is exactly democratic. They are just a bunch of average people, mostly middle america group who see
this country headed in the wrong direction. They voted, democratically, to change that direction. What about all of the groups that support your leftist agenda. Example Media Matters, anything to do with George Soros and all of his groups that throw money, rallying the troups trying to change our country.

Why is it when you lefties don't agree with people it always comes to name bashing and whinning about being un-american. What's really bad for our country is the ignorant who blindly follow the mind mindset of Soros, Obama, Reid and Pelosi


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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"turned against us?"
How about "turn about is fair play"?? remember:
"uh.. we have to pass the bill to tell you whats in it"?.
The healthcare bill was rammed down our throats in much the same way. (political gamesmanship and maneuvering within congress)
Doesn't feel so nice now does it?

The partisan blindness on both sides knows no limits.

Added:" If you get what you want it's "smart progressive "policy if we do its "facism".(?)
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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The Tea Party is a reaction to tyranny and abuse of power. They are here to stop the car from going over the cliff. Tea Party people care nothing for party names like democrat or Republican, they care about the people who elected them and why, and more importantly, they care about the United States Constitution.

What we have right now is an Oobamah dictatorship and a banana Senate. In November of 2012, we hope to end the power of both and return all of congress and the presidency back over to the adults in the room. But first we have to take away the blank check and the credit cards.




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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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I'm really not trying to be antagonistic, so don't take it offensively.

The U.S. is not a democracy. If you don't know that, you don't know anything.

These people were voted into office to be radical about taxes and spending issues, and they are doing just that. You are complaining about what is standard operating procedure in Washington, and has been for at least 100 years. They are not preventing other voting blocks from using their power nor are they abusing power (which would mean doing something illegal).

Personally, I'm not a fan of the tea party. I am, however, for not raising the debt ceiling, reducing spending by huge amounts, and reducing taxation. This can all be done with ease, but most in Washington are proposing untenable solutions so they can raise the ceiling and not change much of anything.

Peace
KJ
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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So instead of Lobbyists and Special Interest groups running the show, the Tea Party has stepped in and exerted pressure and that is bad how?


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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in the 1930s in Europe, there was a political group called the brown shirts.

the tea party is the american version of this political phenomena.

they brought down the Wiemar republic in Germany, it's scary to see what this political disease is doing to America.

either the american voter get rid of this republican congress next year, or we are all doomed.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:25 AM
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Being undemocratic has to do with imposing their will on the American populace when they don’t have the majority of the populace behind them. A vast majority of the American people didn’t put these folks in office.

All they have are 85 of 435 members of congress who are using\abusing a system’s technicalities to blackmail it to get their way—that’s un-democratic.

If liberals did the same thing you would be up in arms. But you support this Tea parties issues therefore you are blind to seeing that their methods are undemocratic, abusive and dangerous.


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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Every day, I see threads stating that people need to do something. Protest, rally, start a movement, change how things are going.

Then, when it actually occurs, people are shocked because things are changing and people are speaking up.
Lately, these threads painting the Tea Party as Dr. Evil and his minions have been cropping up like herpes on a porn film site.

OMG. Change. But. . .but. . . but. . . it wasn't the kind of change I wanted!
*sob*

Progressives had their oppourtunity. They voted in Obama. Now another group is being heard. (that damnd 1st Ammendment!) and the progs don't like it one bit.

Get over it.

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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The teaparty as the brownshirts? Are you serious? Please do some real research on the Wiemar Republic and the brownshirts before making such a crazy claim.


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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I have yet to see any plan proposed by the Democrats or Obama? When are they planning to do so?


The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
Barack Obama 2006



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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America is a democracy and Republic!

The Tea party I said is anti-democratic. They have not remotely the majority of the American people supporting their issues and certainly not their methods.

Definition of democracy: a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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well said!


second line already


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Funny how when the democrats controlled both the house and senate, and used their power to do whatever they pleased I am sure you felt that was just fine and completely democratic.
You people demonizing the Tea Party make me laugh. Your just mad because it's not your party that has control anymore... get over it! We had to wait until Obama care passed the house and senate to find out what was even in it, and this is anti democratic?



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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Ask yourself this. If some left-wingers did what they did, how would you feel about it?


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:36 AM
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Instead of getting your Tea Party info off a progressive news channel or web site, how about going to a meeting?

Depending on where you live, I might even be able to hook you up. That way, you can get a first-hand look at what we are all about.

How about it? Ready to take the plunge?


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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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A lot of people don't realize that America is a "Republic" and not a democracy. In a republic, each state has a say through elected representatives to support or deny any cause, bill, etc. In fact, the electoral college was based on that ideal. The people vote for electors who then cast their vote for or against. So in actuality presidents are elected by a mere few hundred people.

The Tea Party has gone back, way back to the earlier years of congressional representation. They know the will of their constituents and will vote accordingly. I consider myself to be a Tea Party person rather than a democrat or republican. I want limited government, low taxes, and no debt ceiling of any kind (except in time of war). And I don't mean proxy wars like Libya, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

What is a Tea Party person ?

Do you believe in the Constitution and amendments as written ?
Do you believe in limited government ?
Do you believe in low taxation ?
Do you believe in honest, open, representation in congress ?
Do you despise government controlled healthcare ?
Do you believe in real secure borders ?
Do you believe illegal aliens are in fact illegal and are therefore committing a crime against the US ?

These are only a few, but not all, of the ideals Tea Party people hold to. You decide if you are a Tea Party person too, or not.




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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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They were voted in by a majority of the voting populace and they never abused the system like the Republicans are doing now. That’s the point of my OP.

They NEVER threatened to destabilize the economic system if they didn’t get their way.





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