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Is evolution the same as reincarnation ?

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posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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Is it possible that every time we die we reincarnate to something of higher intelligence or higher on the evolutionary chain ? What if every god that was ever worshiped was really just an extraterritorial ? This could very well be possible if they made us. They say that when you die you go to heaven and you become an angel if god is an extraerritorial what is an angel ? A demigod or mixed gene hybrid if you look there is a lot of evidence in this theory one of my biggest sources is a show call Ancient Aliens witch you can watch on youtube for free.




posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Interesting theory.. I am a atheist, But another interesting theory on reincarnation i have heard is this,

The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..

I myself don't believe in reincarnation.. But it is still a interesting theory to toss around in your head..



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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I get your logic instead of genes passing on information to the offspring its really a reincarnated person who is pushing "evolution" forward, I get your logic but I dont think so.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by TechVampyre
Interesting theory.. I am a atheist, But another interesting theory on reincarnation i have heard is this,

The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..

I myself don't believe in reincarnation.. But it is still a interesting theory to toss around in your head..


That Is very interesting and it is very possible but I wonder If then you only really gain conciseness when you come out of the womb ? Very interesting indeed



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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You could look at it that way, but I don't think you'd necessarily become something "higher" than your previous incarnation. Evolution is about change that is best suited for the environment you're in.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by satron
You could look at it that way, but I don't think you'd necessarily become something "higher" than your previous incarnation. Evolution is about change that is best suited for the environment you're in.

That's true and this is just one of my many theory's I decided to post this one because Its the first one I've thought of since I got an ATS account



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by TechVampyre


The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..



OOOO I've never heard that one before.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by TechVampyre


The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..



OOOO I've never heard that one before.

Me either it's quite an interesting thought.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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I was having this exact same thought yesterday.

I'm right there with you man.




posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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SWEET MAN keep up the good thinking and PLEASE add me !



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by RevolutionSpeaks

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by TechVampyre


The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..



OOOO I've never heard that one before.

Me either it's quite an interesting thought.


Think about this logically for a minute. The only way we know about the 'white lights' is because those people didn't pass away. They lived and told us. So what happened to their new self if their conscience came back? It is an interesting idea, but don't think it makes sense because honestly the only people who have seen a white tunnel are people who have not been reborn, so it kind of invalidates the theory a bit.



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Akasirus

Originally posted by RevolutionSpeaks

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by TechVampyre


The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..



OOOO I've never heard that one before.

Me either it's quite an interesting thought.


Think about this logically for a minute. The only way we know about the 'white lights' is because those people didn't pass away. They lived and told us. So what happened to their new self if their conscience came back? It is an interesting idea, but don't think it makes sense because honestly the only people who have seen a white tunnel are people who have not been reborn, so it kind of invalidates the theory a bit.


Maybe those babies are the ones who die of unusual circumstances? Like not breathing when out of the womb, or umbilical cord tied to their necks? A thought. Not insulting or being rude to anyone who knows someone whose baby has died



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Apparently, the name Christ is another name for a certain word that involves with our evolution. People think "Christ" is coming in 2012 to save us. It apparently means we will have the same abilities and knowledge Christ had. We are becoming "Christ"



posted on Jul, 29 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by TechVampyre


The White light at the end of the tunnel after you pass away, is you being born seeing the bright lights of the hospital room..



OOOO I've never heard that one before.


It is an interesting picture to draw, I quite like it. But don't take it literally! Not everyone is born in a hospital. What if you were born in a hut in the forest in the midel of the night? Would your previous incarnation see the dim glow of a candle as he deid? lol

ETA:

Forgot to say... OP, nice thinkings! This is a very budist type of idea. That as we reincarnate we travel higher up the chain of intelligence in life. Intill we find enlightenment. Wahtever that is? I think it is a bit more 4 dimensional than that personally.
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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by TechVampyre
I myself don't believe in reincarnation.. But it is still a interesting theory to toss around in your head..


The wonderful thing about reincarnation is that it doesn't matter if you believe or not. If we are to be naught but worm food, than the issue is moot, but if there is more, we will all know the truth of it at the time of crossing over


Now consider this... we are beings up flesh that will rot when our life force passes... but that part of us is energy. Electricity flows through our nerves. Science tells us that energy cannot be destroyed, so where does our energy go?

Imagine a string of light bulbs... each bulb can be on or off, but break a bulb... were does the energy go that gave life to that bulb? It continues in the flow...

And just as each electron in that flow has its own individuality, so do we in the cosmic flow of energy... and reincarnation is that point when our energy lights a new bulb.

As to the evolution part... from my studies over the years it seems we are 'stuck' here for several 'lessons' before we can move on. Earth is in effect a kindergarten as far as the Universe is concerned. Some have called it a prison.. and in truth Astral travelers and even top remote viewers have been warned to go back. Tibetan mystic will tell you that you need 9 full incarnations on Earth before you can leave... unless you mess up and have to do a 'do over
. This is where the myth of a Cat's nine lives comes from. (Cats are considered watchers in Tibet, so be nice to kitty
) This is also the basis of numerology were everything is reduced to a base 9, except the master numbers 11, 22, 33. People like the Dalai Lama, or Budha, or Jesus would be a 33... they came to teach

33... masonic level... see how it all ties in together?

But as I said it does NOT matter what you believe, it only matters how you live your life... just in case you do need to answer for it



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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I see what you're saying. We are energy and energy can't be created or destroyed, only converted to one form or another. Our bodies are one form of energy, and our liveliness is another. When we die, our bodies convert to dirt and food. That's the body's energy. But there is still energy unaccounted for. That life force. So where does it go? It doesn't really go anywhere. It just goes to where it's always been. Now there's just no heavy body making the rules for it and it is free.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
we will all know the truth of it at the time of crossing over



Or we just die and that's it and our energy is just recycled over again. We may never learn the truth about anything.



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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I did cover that option



Originally posted by zorgon
If we are to be naught but worm food, then the issue is moot,



posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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okay...i sstarted a reply a second ago and lost what i had down already when i went to get some links for ya.

Anyway to sum it up....i want to suggest some books to look into.

Brian Weiss MD

Only Love Is Real

His first book was Many Lives, Many Masters...i would suggest reading that one first seeing as it talks more about how he come across this whole past life memory issue with the very first patient that it happened with. But he also talks a little about it in that link to Only Love is Real...which is the first one i read and in returned had me sold on this reincarnation issue because it all makes complete sense!

The light at the end of the tunnel...it talks about it! It is were our soul goes to review life lessons and the light is to re-energize the spirit. If you don't learn your lessons from one life...or you have traumatic memories and such at the time of your passing you tend to carry them over to your next life. If you didn't learn your lesson in that life you have to learn that one and a new one in the next...hence the reason why a lot of peoples lives are so difficult alot of times. Traumatic death or bad thoughts such as hate for example cause confusion at time of death and tend to be the cause of Phobias in the next life time/times.

Example:



Usually in therapy, when forgotten traumas are remembered with their accompanying emotions, a process called catharsis, patients begin to improve. Catherine's symptoms remained severe, however, and I assumed that we had to uncover even more repressed childhood memories. Then she should improve. Carefully I took Catherine back to the age of two, but she recalled no significant memories. I instructed her firmly and clearly: "Go back to the time from which your symptoms arise." I was totally shocked by her response.

"I see white steps leading up to a building, a big white building with pillars, open in front. There are no doorways. I'm wearing a long dress ... a sack made of rough material. My hair is braided, long blonde hair." Her name was Aronda, a young woman who lived nearly four thousand years ago. She died suddenly in a flood or tidal wave, which devastated her village.

"There are big waves knocking down trees. There's no place to run. It's cold, the water is cold. I have to save my baby, but I cannot. .. . Just have to hold her tight. I drown; the water chokes me. I can't breathe, can't swallow . . . salty water. My baby is torn out of my arms." Catherine had been gasping and having difficulty breathing during this tragic memory. Suddenly her body relaxed completely, and her breathing became deep and even. "I see clouds. ... My baby is with me. And others from my village. I see my brother." She was resting. That lifetime had ended.

Although neither she nor I believed in past lives, we had both been dramatically introduced to an ancient experience. Incredibly, her lifelong fear of gagging, or choking, virtually disappeared after this one session. I knew that imagination or fantasy could not cure such deeply embedded, chronic symptoms. Cathartic memory could. Week after week. Catherine remembered more past lives. Her symptoms disappeared. She was cured, without the use of any medicines. Together, we had discovered the healing power of regression therapy.



This is a part of a chapter in Only Love is Real, but it is a flashback to his very first patient in which he discovered past lives with. Its amazing stuff! I am not much for reading but this reincarnation stuff is exactly the knowledge that i think everyone has forgotten!



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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For this explanation, we have to first visualise a naturally occuring species, that has no free will, and that has evolved naturally within its environment without any form of genetic modification.

The origin is the oversoul, this entity gives birth to children and its children are parts of itself, however, each child is a new entity that was created from the spark of life.

Each child will grow and develop, and in turn have children of thier own and so on and so fourth, and thus, many many souls will be born.

When each of these children are born they are created from the spiritual world, and they are manifest into the physical world, and when they die in the physical world, they return to thier place in the spiritual world.

Thus, the physical world can be seen as a "dip" and the reality is the spiritual plane of existence.

Reincarnation is a different theory, this means a return to the physical world, that is, being reborn - when this occurs, the process of birth is different - when a child is born that is manifest from the "negative" side, instead of a new soul being created, an old soul is re-born into flesh.

Thus, reincarnation is a regressive characteristic, and in essence, reproduction physically is exceeding the creation of new souls in the spiritual world.
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For the next explanation, that applies to genetic engineering:

When physicality attempts to alter the dynamics of the spiritual world, we have distortions due the the artificial alteration to genes.

A gene can be altered from 3D, however, this has the effect of altering the more complex fabrics of the spiritual world, as we assume that the spiritual or higher density worlds are what project into and manifest the denser planes.

For example, if two species are artificially combined, the soul-matrix of the two species are grounded by the physical world - and thus, problems exist where physical beings have dual souls, soul remenants as well as mutant entities being created.

The case with human beings is even more complex, as you can imagine hybridisation upon hybridisation as well as parasitic beings that use human beings as hosts.
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