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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
That's not real change...it is suicide.
It is the hope from people who are down on their luck, because misery loves company and they want to bring everyone down with them.
It's pathetic and simple minded.
Fail.
We are people who don't want government in our lives.
Get over your dependence.
Kick the government habit!
Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Wether the debt ceiling is raised or not, massive changes need to be made.
The US is currently committing fiscal suicide. The policies that lead down this path are still in place. There needs to be a system wide change for any lasting progress to be made.
That isn't even on the table yet.
A forced default would make that issue priority one. It would make for some very scary times, as the US could really go either way during the rebuild period, but the rewards would be worth the risk.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
Fail.
We are people who don't want government in our lives.
Get over your dependence.
Kick the government habit!
The assumptions you make are hilarious.
Tea Partiers are by far the most clueless people in the nation.
I bet you think Obama raised your taxes along with all the other Tea Partiers...right?
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Vitchilo
There's going to be a big broom next year. Obama, Reid, Boehner, et al as far as I'm concerned.
Damned shame. Seeing our country getting pissed away for political expediency.
Now who is making assumptions?
Your dependence is of no interest to me.
Your promotion of dependence and a propogation of like-minded pols IS of concern.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I don't promote dependence...I promote a responsible safety net...I promote that it is better to help those in need rather than have them die on the streets. I promote that I want to live in a society that cares about others...and not just about the rich.
Are you rich...or do you just do their bidding???
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I don't promote dependence...I promote a responsible safety net...I promote that it is better to help those in need rather than have them die on the streets. I promote that I want to live in a society that cares about others...and not just about the rich.
Are you rich...or do you just do their bidding???
My financial state has no bearing in this debate.
Responsible safety net? And you expect the government to provide that?
Sure.
On their terms.
Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
That is exactly why a default could be a good thing.
Wipes the slate, makes it easier to change legislation and rebuild.
No option is going to be an easy out, anybody that thinks so is in for a very rude awakening.
So the question becomes, do you do a complete reset (default) and do it right? Or do you do a rolling change over (ceiling raise) many years?