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Originally posted by dethduck
I'll say what I have said in other threads.
The hell with who is/was/will be president.
You want to point fingers, point them squarely at Congress.
They are the power in this government. They're the ones that allow, encourage and condone all these things that we hate our presidents for to occur.
They publicly play games of politics for the public, bickering like children all the while passing legislation that consistently and continuously tears our world and our lives apart. They pass constantly through revolving doors between corporate and financial industries into government seats where they conspire to strip as much as they can from us to give back to those industries they came from. If they don't milk that money cow as a lifetime politician they slink their way back into those industries arms, conflict of interests and fat wallets in tow.
Nothing that happens in government, be it by presidential decree or some pork buried deep in some 1500 page "bill" happens without their complicity. That's were we should always be looking. That's where we need to clean house.
We need more than a congress filled with career politician, investment banks, corporate businessmen and corporate lawyers. What incentive do these people have to benefit the common populace? None. We need a congress of term limits, not endless money bins, a congress of small business owners, those that built the communities that built our industries, a congress or teachers, factory workers, farmers, scientists and more.
We need a congress of the people, without lobbyists, without the influence of corporations and investment bankers. A congress that not only knows what life for the common citizenry is like, but a congress from that citizenry and after their term will return to that citizenry, subject to the legislation they enact in office once they're out of office.
Politics is a game and the time for games is over.
That depends on whether we continue to vote in the same old same old,i.e. career politicians, corporate cronies and bankers and the like, or whether we put those from the same pool as the rest of us and not the top one tenth of one percent.
Originally posted by nathanscottecho
reply to post by dethduck
I can definitely agree with this. But that brings up another question then. If we were to strip congress bare and completely put in a new crew would they change anything or just keep the status quo??
It's through the lobbying process that corporations gained such an influential foothold into the pockets of our government and legislators. It once served as a way for the people to get their voices heard in congress but somewhere along the line became an "institution" and tool of those with money and power. A moratorium on lobbying needs to be put in place after clearing congress so that the lobbying laws can be rewritten to give that voice back to the people and prevent the undue influence that powerful companies and bankers have enjoyed through it for decades.
Also a reply to the post after yours, I agree and do you think they should tack on an amendment that prevents lobbying??
edit on 7/29/2011 by nathanscottecho because: Forgot a word ha
Originally posted by nathanscottecho
reply to post by seedofchucky
I completely understand where you're coming from with this, but all I can say is that most of the turmoil over in the middle east can be traced back to some form of involvement with the USA, Russia (in the past), and China (although you're right in saying these countries may need some form of help but the US is famous for it's "help" if you know what I mean). My main point with this thread is to simply ask all of us out there to stop blaming ANYBODY that's out there in the "spotlight" simply because I believe they were put there for that specific reason... to make us argue and not band together. If everyone took a step back they would realize that the whole political scheme never and I mean NEVER has the common person as the center of interest.