House panel approves bill forcing ISPs to log users' web history

In the West, Tor was initially created to help people in China to access the internet freely.

Ironic that we all all would soon have to use Tor soon.

We need to start talking about taking the internet underground to keep it away from goverment and the likes of google.

Could run our own search system by making use of machines in a network that is not being used.

Google=CIA and they need taking out the loop

Every site will be hacked and all the information will become available to anyone who is able to read a post. That is why I will never cloud any information. There is no such thing as internet security. Pedophilia is only and excuse to do it. Anonymous and Lulz were merely the catalyst. I will soon be going back to newpapers and postage stamps I think.

This is an outrage. When are they going to stop trampling over our constitutional rights, and more importantly, how much longer are we the people going to put up with it?

By the way, don't they already have the ability to do this since the PATRIOT Act basically repealed the Fourth Amendment?

I hope all the ISPs have the right level of security so that our data isn't published by hackers.

Originally posted by SatoriTheory
I wonder what other laws are being passed while the 'debt crisis' negotiations are 'distracting' the public!?

st.

That's an excellent question as I was under the impression that they were a bit busy this week.
Also, the 112th Congress has only passed 38 bills into law. But this is what they have time for?
I think I may need to drink the Kool Aid and go back to sleep just so that I can start to easy my frustration.

Originally posted by Kinaro
This is an outrage. When are they going to stop trampling over our constitutional rights, and more importantly, how much longer are we the people going to put up with it?

Using the internet is not a right but a privilege. Alot of people get rights and privileges mixed up.

When I ran an ISP 10 years ago, i had to keep logs of all traffic in order to provide evidence to clients that they or members of their subnet had been visiting whatever websites. It was a billing option for those who contested their bills.

I remember this guy swearing he didnt download what the bill said and we printed out a copy of his weblogs and he took one look at it and saw all the porn and said, 'its okay, ill pay the bill'.

Originally posted by visualmiscreant
I also would think this is gonna hurt a few businesses, whose customers rely on privacy.

A FEW!!!!!!!!!
Try at least half if not more. This is just one more step to shutting down the Internet. It was fun while it lasted.

As I was reading this thread I was thinking in the back of my head what its going to like for the post office. This could be gods saving grace for them. I do some internet purchasing, and I think I'm going to be ordering alot of more catalogs thru the mail.

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... and I bet you think this is all the fault of the guys who fight back like anonymous instead of all you cowards and complacent fools who sit back and do nothing but complain...

You know when the government claims a really emotional reason for policing you that you are the recipient of that humping. I actually think I know what part of it could be. Revenue. You will be taxed till hell won't have it for all of your online purchases. Porn to. Certainly a backdoor to some damn nefarious and evil intent.

e.g. You get ticketed for not wearing a seat belt in an effort to make a better world yet people ride motorcycles. I mean, simple logic as you folks point out washes their reasoning away. Unfortunately most people are way below simple. The shame...

Unfortunately, I believe this will pass. The government can get away with anything as long as they attach emotionalism to it, i.e. 9/11, terrorism, child pornography, murder, etc.

Please tell me this is just for US ISP's...

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Please tell me this is just for US ISP's...

Unless the U.S. House of Representatives became a global governing body, I should think so.

This is so true.

I am on Comcast Cable.


I was talking to someone online, that was feeling suicidal.

My ISP called the cops and told them I was going to commit suicide, mind you they did this two whole day's after the convo took place.. But the fact that I was talking someone out of it, and for the ISP to call the cops and say I was the one who was going to commit suicide, and two days after the fact?

Comcast actively monitors it's users and messaging programs. I did this on MSN so how did Comcast even see what was being typed?

CNET reported the bill would require ISPs to retain customers' names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses for 12 months.

I can understand web history, big deal, the government already knows what we do, it's call facebook and twitter, but what's up with:

"phone numbers, credit card numbers, BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS?"

Does this fall under the freedom of information act? Will I be able to view the logs of President Obama's viewing habits, as well as his credit card numbers, and his bank account numbers?

This is not a law yet.
It has 25 co-sponsors.
So far 82% of respondents at govtrack.us don't like the bill.
Contact your congresmen and tell them this is an invasion of privacy
HR1981

Yeah smart idea you freaking idiots so hackers can get everyones credit card numbers then what the hell are you gonna do...oh sorry we messed up

I'm not talkin about any of you im talkin about cnet or whatever