The sun is exactly where it should be!, page 1
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Topic started on 29-7-2011 @ 07:11 AM by Chadwickus
So many here at ATS seem to think the sun isn't where it's meant to be, this may upset a few here but they're all wrong and I can prove it from several different angles.

Firstly, any major change to the suns angle here on earth would greatly influence the weather, the tilt of the earth creates the seasons, right now it's summer in the northern hemisphere and winter in the southern hemisphere...



Sorry for the brief high school lesson but any change in where the sun is would change the seasons all over the globe.

Secondly, there is a type of photography that is called solargraphy, it captures the suns movement through the sky each day, here's an example here:



This has gained popularity since 2000.

This site
solargraphy.com has been documenting solargraphs from all over the world since 2002.

Hundreds of people all over the world have been doing this for over 10 years now, no change in the sun has been documented, any shift would be clearly visible in these solargraphs.

Thirdly, there are several structures all over the globe that were built for a specific reason, the most famous is Stonehenge, built over 4000 years ago, this structure aligns with the setting sun of the summer solstice, why hasn't anyone who has visited this place during a solstice reported that there was no alignment?

Stonehenge isn't the only place to have a predictable alignment, another popular one is Manhattanhenge.

Twice yearly the setting sun will align with the east-west streets of Manhattan.

Here's an image showing Manhattanhenge since 2006.



All looks well to me.

There are other reasons but I think these three cover it well enough for now.

So I'm sorry to say but hard facts, which by the way are easily verified trump gut feelings and memories.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:29 AM by AzureSky
Well, definatly a decent thread going here.

But when it comes down to it, i think i would trust the inuit people before i believe what science tells me.



I doubt these Inuit people have any reason to lie to us, and they have been watching the sky since they could walk. =)
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reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:32 AM by OnlyLove
reply to post by Cyanhide



Then why do most people see no difference what so ever? or is it like 'Nibiru' that can only be 'seen' when on a very precise spot on planet earth.

we all share the same sun.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:37 AM by Rising Against
reply to post by Cyanhide



There does seem to be a fair amount of people saying that it has changed over the years,


...And the OP shows they're wrong.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:37 AM by Cyanhide
reply to post by OnlyLove



First of all : Don't get all nibiru on my a$$.
Second : I'm just saying its not that a small amount of people claiming the sun is doing some odd things.
I'm not even saying they are lying or not ,i'm just stating allot of people have this gut feeling.

Never underestimate your instincts. Personally I don't know what to believe. We are living in some facinating times.

And every week they bring out new info that changes our perspective.
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reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:38 AM by OnlyLove
reply to post by AzureSky



Why do you trust inuit people so blindly? Like they posses some mythical powers.
There just people like you and me.

with the same problems like you and me.
Link


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:39 AM by Chadwickus
I figured the Inuit video would be brought up.

The 4 minute video with the Inuit talking about the sun rising in a different time/place is a small part of an hour long global warming/climate change film:

www.isuma.tv...

Nunavut-based director Zacharias Kunuk (Atanarjuat The Fast Runner) and researcher and filmmaker Dr. Ian Mauro (Seeds of Change) have teamed up with Inuit communities to document their knowledge and experience regarding climate change. This new documentary, the world’s first Inuktitut language film on the topic, takes the viewer “on the land” with elders and hunters to explore the social and ecological impacts of a warming Arctic.


The sun rising early is due to polar caps melting.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:43 AM by OnlyLove
reply to post by Cyanhide



I didn't go 'all nibiru on your a**' I used it as an example. because just like 'nibiru' nobody seen it apart from a few select few.

And your on ATS everyone has a gut feeling that something is happening

Nothing personal friend just an example.



reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:48 AM by Cyanhide
reply to post by OnlyLove



I wasn't attacking you Its just using nibiru in a reference kinda automatically gives the comment-er the upper-hand. Its like saying well yea but if you say fairies exist. although here on ATS you will get more friendly responses with fairy's then nibiru :p


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 07:58 AM by AzureSky
Originally posted by OnlyLove
reply to
post by AzureSky



Why do you trust inuit people so blindly? Like they posses some mythical powers.
There just people like you and me.

with the same problems like you and me.
Link



They don't need to possess a mystical power?
They're hunter-gatherers, they know how to read the stars and sky, they dont use gps to get home when they're out hunting at night, they use the stars, same in the day, they grew up with the sun being in the same position.

So i wouldn't say blindly trusting them, its obvious really. They know the land, so they know when the land changes.

Makes sense in my mind


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 08:03 AM by Cyanhide
reply to post by AzureSky



Well it really just comes down to the arrogance of man.
Its a shame really.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 08:20 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Nidwin



Here ya go:

2006: en.wikipedia.org...
2007: i.huffpost.com...
2008: www.thisisgoingtobebig.com...
2009: www.blippitt.com...
2010: www.flickr.com...
2011: gothamist.com...



Why is number 2 unreliable?

Surely any sudden change would be extremely noticeable?

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reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 08:38 AM by Nidwin
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to
post by Nidwin



Here ya go:

2006: en.wikipedia.org...
2007: i.huffpost.com...
2008: www.thisisgoingtobebig.com...
2009: www.blippitt.com...
2010: www.flickr.com...
2011: gothamist.com...



Why is number 2 unreliable?

Surely any sudden change would be extremely noticeable?

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Thanks mate,
realy cool those pictures.

As for unreliable I tend to avoid anything that has to much input from JoeSchmuck.
Sudden yes, but slowly ongoing ones not always.


reply posted on 29-7-2011 @ 08:41 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by Nidwin



Yeah, slow changes, solargraphy could miss it.

Which is where places like Stonehenge and Manhattanhenge come in play.

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